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Since: 5.9.02
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.24
With Chrome. (google.com)

Just a beta for now, and I have nowhere near the computer knowledge to comment on this aside from "It's pretty damn fast" (though in typing this message, I'm noticing an interesting effect on words that I type that hit the end of a line in the message box.)

I'm impressed so far, but like I said, I have very limited knowledge on this.



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.24
Interesting that they didn't wait until the Mac and Linux versions were ready. I'm not going to put it on my work laptop, so I'll have to wait to try it.



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Since: 10.12.01
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
I found the comic highly enjoyable. The browser's just going to be a let down from there.



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Since: 25.1.02
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.54
Love it so far. Faster than FF, blocks popups better, and the GUI is nice.

Only glitch so far is in the text box; inserting text is turning out to be tricky amongst a couple of other peculiarities. (When I insert text it looks like I'm typing over the old text as if the insert button isn't on, but when I get done typing it's all fine.) But I imagine this will get worked out.

My new default, at least for now.




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Since: 2.1.02
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.97
    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    I found the comic highly enjoyable. The browser's just going to be a let down from there.


good old scott mccloud.

I wonder if he got paid in micropayments.



(edited by odessasteps on 2.9.08 1636)


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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.35
    Originally posted by odessasteps
      Originally posted by thecubsfan
      I found the comic highly enjoyable. The browser's just going to be a let down from there.


    good old scott mccloud.

    I wonder if he got paid in micropayments.



    (edited by odessasteps on 2.9.08 1636)


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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.33
I had one site refuse it as an unsupported copy of Safari

Welcome Safari user! We have detected that you're using an unsupported version of Safari.

Askville supports Safari versions 3 and 4.





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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.42
I like it so far. I'll have to give it a full workout (Youtube, news sites with embedded video, et al.) before I give a better opinion.

I have one question....what cartoon?

(edited by Oliver on 2.9.08 1912)


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Since: 13.2.03
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.91
    Originally posted by PeterStork
    Love it so far. Faster than FF, blocks popups better, and the GUI is nice.


Of course there's no way you can seriously get into the browser market without a pop-up blocker, but wouldn't you also need some degree of ad-blocking to reach the people who would consider switching from the Microsoft-loaded Explorer?

What with Google making so much money from their ads and all.



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Since: 24.3.02
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.90
    Originally posted by AWArulz
    I had one site refuse it as an unsupported copy of Safari

    Welcome Safari user! We have detected that you're using an unsupported version of Safari.

    Askville supports Safari versions 3 and 4.



Yeah because of how the userAgent is setup, websites think that it's an old version of Safari. If you type about: in the user window, the very last line gives the userAgent string.
Mozilla/5.0 () AppleWebKit/525.13 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/0.2.149.27 Safari/525.13
It looks like it identifies as Safari because it's based on the AppleWebKit, versino 525.13 (which is Safari 3.1, I think). Once it's out of beta they'll probably move the Chrome section down to the bottom.
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Since: 18.3.02
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.52

I haven't been able to get it to run. I'm running XP - SP3, with no other issues, but Chrome gets to the end part of the install and hangs. I've got shortcuts on the desktop, and quick start, but no joy.

Oh, well....maybe I'll wait until a few revisions along.
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Since: 9.12.01
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.17
XP SP3 w/ IE 8 Beta 2 - no problems getting Chrome to install. If there was ever a system it shouldn't install to, I would think it would be mine. I have almost every browser known to Windows at work.




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Since: 30.1.02
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.83
I like it, but I don't think I would leave Firefox for Chrome, just because I'm happy with FF and don't feel the need to change. Having said that, and since Chrome is open source, I wonder if FF will be incorporating some of Chrome's back-end into their future releases. Time will tell, I suppose.

I wasn't doing any official testing, but I was curious to see what it would do with some of our web-based applications, so I gave it a whirl. It seems peppy and the applications seemed to function properly, but I had one interesting experience where the tabs that were supposed to be spread out on top and right justified in one of the applications were stacked on top of each other on the left margin. I'm not surprised that something didn't render like it does in FF and IE, but since the formatting for my apps is "handled" by the development environment and I don't get much choice in the matter, I guess I'll just have to wait a version or two of the dev environment and see if they won't support Chrome.

I also found an externally developed application that we use that will require a new plugin from Oracle before our school can officially support the new browser. I won't be surprised if they have the new plugin within the next six months though. Oracle tries to support everybody.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.97

Maybe I am naive, but I was surprised to hear that IE still has 70% of the "browser market."





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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.75
I did like that all the bookmarks from firefox were imported.
I did NOT like that all my passwords for emails and other sites were automatically placed in the password fields, even on sites where I don't click on "save password".
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Since: 2.1.02
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.00
Read it and weep, fella


    Originally posted by odessasteps

    Maybe I am naive, but I was surprised to hear that IE still has 70% of the "browser market."
I'm surprised it's not higher. Didnt it used to be like 90-something% a couple years ago?



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Since: 24.3.02
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.90
Whether I continue to use Chrome is going to depend on what kind of add-ons get created for it. Chrome seems limited compared to the Firefox + add-ons experience. IE added support for add-ons as well, but there's not nearly the number of people creating them for IE. We'll see which group Chrome ends up in.
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Since: 18.3.02
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.52

Finally got Chrome working, and I agree with the relative consensus:

1. Got the weird text box thing.
2. Also got passwords that I don't save. Not cool.
3. Not a big fan of the user agreement.
4. Almost all websites work (I use Askville too though.)
5. Also agree about the add-ons...I miss some of them (like an "open in browser x" add on would be nice for the incompatible sites.

I miss themes too. This bluish look is kind of AOLish looking. Brrr..AOL.
Matt Tracker
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Since: 8.5.03
From: North Carolina

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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.40
I can't my login for this site to work in Chrome. I had to go back to Firefox to post this.



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Since: 2.1.02
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.04
Apparently, initial concerns (tapthehive.s483.sureserver.com) about the browser have been addressed:

    Originally posted by djlosch
    UPDATE: At about 4:00PM EST, I've received the following note:
    Here's an official response from Rebecca Ward, Senior Product Counsel for Google Chrome:

    "In order to keep things simple for our users, we try to use the same set of legal terms (our Universal Terms of Service) for many of our products. Sometimes, as in the case of Google Chrome, this means that the legal terms for a specific product may include terms that don't apply well to the use of that product. We are working quickly to remove language from Section 11 of the current Google Chrome terms of service. This change will apply retroactively to all users who have downloaded Google Chrome."

    One thing that's different in the software engineering world from the legal world is that in software engineering, we deal in discretes -- anyone can test algorithms and instantly get absolute answers (I was a software engineer before I got into IP law). But in the legal realm, a lot of what goes on is interpretation, argument, and lots of grey areas (and even then, the question is "how grey is that grey?"). So you can call this conspiracy theories or a mistake if you want, but I'd rather think of it as misunderstanding between what we were interpreting and what Google was trying to convey. I wasn't trying to induce some conspiracy theory or promote any ill will towards Google (I'm a faithful user of google search, gmail, analytics, and adsense), but I wanted the record straight.

    UPDATE 2: Google has updated the ToS and it now states
    11. Content license from you

    11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services.

    12. Software updates ...

    The questionable language has been removed entirely. I didn't think it was necessary for Google to step that far back, but it's definitely more in line with the mantra of "Do No Evil." Based on these changes, I can legitimately say that I recommend the download and use of Chrome.







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