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I know this applies to two of my favorite teams: Major League Baseball's Toronto Blue Jays (World Series winners in 1992 and 1993)...and the National Hockey League's Calgary Flames [Stanley Cup runners-up in 1986, winners in 1989).


These teams had a good 5 or 6 year run as good, quality teams. Revenues were up, fans were happy, WHY DID THEY DISMANTLE GOOD TEAMS? The Flames traded away most of their talent to Toronto or Hartford for nobody players...and the Blue Jays made some of the most idiotic trades ever. And when the Jays managed to salvage some of their players, here comes new G.M. C.V. Assmar to screw it all up by trading away everybody but Shannon Stewart, Carlos Delgade and Roy Halladay. What the hell's up? Why do "SMALL MARKET" teams trade away good (somewhat expensive) players when the fans they draw essentially pay for their salaries? WHY??



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I have no idea what you're talking about. You won 10-20 years ago, so you're supposed to win now? Players get old... good players often get overpaid and screw up a successful team's salary structure... the draft is giving the good young players to the bad teams... this is just how it goes.

By the way, name one bad trade Ricciardi made.



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Ricciardi needs to be moving big salary guys like Mondesi, Stewart and Delgado but he can't find any takers because they are so overpriced. That is the fault of the previous GM, not J.P.

The Jays will be fine once they get rid of that flotsam and jetsam that is severely overrated.



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Since: 2.1.02
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My thought is that baseball is on its last legs in Toronto-there is just no fan interest anymore, and they had the biggest losses in the MLB last year. Back in the World Series years, the Jays had respect from players everywhere as a classy organization, no one talks in those terms anymore when it comes to Toronto.

If MLB is going to follow through with contraction, you gotta figure that Toronto will be on the short list-maybe not in the first wave, but not far after. Sad? Yes. But it wouldn't be surprising.

As far as hockey's Flames, they have a history of trading away players for nothing more than some magic beans. It would be sad if they went under.
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