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Since: 25.2.04

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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
I hope Lesnar destroys him.Plain and simple Goldberg Blows!!! He's an overpaid untalented piece of crap,hell even Hogan could out wrestle him.Sure Lesnar is dominating, reminiscent of Goldberg's gimmick except for one main key...talent.Brock can really wrestle.Why do you think Goldberg matches last 2 minutes (if that). Because he couldn' carry a match with a crane the size of Atlanta.Lesnar can wrestle anyone any style.He's a hell of a technical wrestler(and will get better alonside Kurt Angle), he can lift the Big Show like if he was a child and pull off a shooting star press half way across the ring(I know he missed against Angle but check out old OVW footage).I hope that Goldberg never wrestles in the WWE again and that now Real TALENT!!! is allowed to shine.Notice Real Talent!!! not Mr. Im to good to wrestle Jericho over there, I mean guys like Jericho,RVD,and the greatest wrestler alive Chris Benoit!!!I see nothing but good things for wrestling without Goldberg look out Raw is about to get amazing.

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Since: 17.2.03
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.54
I agree that Goldberg blows. The problem
is that the WWE has done nothing to make
the fans like someone more than Goldberg.

If Eddy is going to be the superface for
2004, which I doubt any of us believes, he
should be the one to send Goldberg packing.

If Goldberg isn't coming back, he should
be the heel, or at least his opponent
should be a face like Warrior vs Hogan.

The way it looks now, Lesnar won't gain
any popularity for destroying a crowd
favorite and WWE will lose someone who
the audience seems to care about.

The only real winner is Trip for having
packed off Goldberg at the expense of
SmackDown's popularity without anyone
from SmackDown! getting built up with
the fans. Business as usual, it seems.

Frank
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Since: 2.3.04

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
Well, not to sound rude, but...

Let this be a lesson to Goldberg then.

He played out the WWE, the company he was so vocal about NOT going to because of his morals...changed when he saw the check...so he's a liar.

He apparently has a big ego.

And he bad-mouthed HHH, before HHH even met or knew who he was.

So what about Goldberg?
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Since: 22.1.04
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
Well, that's good and all to hear people bashing about Goldberg, but you see the problem is, most people here already don't like Goldberg, and so the target of all your bashings should not really be us, but rather, the common wrestling fans...

If you want to bash about Goldberg, try going to more popular and bigger sites, like IMDB, where these common wrestling fans get appalled and absolutely enraged by what they see. So you if you want to engage in some kind of debate, I'm sure you won't have problems looking for one. Try posting on the Goldberg is an Egotistical Bastard thread, where the reactions by the common fans never cease to amuse me, or try starting a new topic here.

You have to be a registered user though to be able to post...

Enjoy bashing!

(edited by CRZ on 7.3.04 0954)

(edited by tnt on 7.3.04 1053)

(edited by tnt on 7.3.04 1057)

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.60
    Originally posted by tnt
    Well, that's good and all to hear people bashing about Goldberg, but you see the problem is, most people here already don't like Goldberg, and so the target of all your bashings should not really be us, but rather, the common wrestling fans...

    If you want to bash about Goldberg, try going to more popular and bigger sites, like IMDB, where these common wrestling fans get appalled and absolutely enraged by what they see. So you if you want to engage in some kind of debate, I'm sure you won't have problems looking for one. Try posting on the Goldberg is an Egotistical Bastard thread, where the reactions by the common fans never cease to amuse me, or try starting a new topic here.

    You have to be a registered user though to be able to post...

    Enjoy bashing!


I think you're going to need to resize that image down in your sig.





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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
    Originally posted by Whitebacon

      I think you're going to need to resize that image down in your sig.


    There, I've resized it already. Hope the size is good enough now. I've only learned how to resize images just now.

    (edited by tnt on 7.3.04 1058)


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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.65
    Originally posted by tnt
      Originally posted by Whitebacon

      I think you're going to need to resize that image down in your sig.


    There, I've resized it already. Hope the size is good enough now. I've only learned how to resize images just now.
Maybe you should just remove it. I have NO idea why you'd think anybody would need to see that more than once - or even once, come to think of it.

(edited by CRZ on 7.3.04 1058)


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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.00
Ok then.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.34
The problem could well be that turning Goldberg heel would require removing the qualities that made Goldberg a popular face, which then takes away the value of having someone beat Goldberg. If you try to keep him as the same Goldberg to get maximum value out of someone beating him, you run into a situation much like trying to turn a face Guerrero heel by having him do the same things that got him cheered earlier this year. An attempt to turn Goldberg heel while having him continue to mow people down in his regular manner would only invite the fans to cheer for him. Sure, there's the long tradition of monster heels tearing through the nobodies to set up the big face win, but I'd argue that Goldberg is a special case, because finally getting around to having him tear through people would only remind the crowds of why they were supposed to cheer for him in the first place.

The attempt to turn Goldberg heel in WCW was a pretty miserable failure. He did have one moment that was a brief success at fusing the unstoppable Goldberg character with heelish actions, when he fought recovering cancer victim Jim Duggan in WCW. That was maybe more an uncomfortable moment than a successful heel turn, though, and how many times can you have the guy beat up somebody who's had a major bout with cancer? Brock filled the quota for that in 2003 with his Gowan feud, at that.

The point is valid, of course, that they're wasting a major potential crowd reaction by having a big name on his way out taking on a heel. But they may also be considering recent history. Lesnar went into SummerSlam 2002 against The Rock with Lesnar as the clear heel (having just recently smeared Hogan's blood on himself following a SmackDown win over Hogan) and Rock as a face, but one who, it was commonly known, was on his way out at the time. Lesnar ended up having the New York crowd's support then, and with a pretty similar situation, I think they're banking on the same crowd response for Lesnar this time, and if they have him win in a way that's easily turned into an impressive video highlight for future packages, it would give Lesnar more momentum to make a future loss to Guerrero (or Edge or whomever) that much more impact. Especially someone like Guerrero, who has the ability to easily move the crowd into his favor in the classic David vs. Goliath booking that would come into play with a Guerrero/Lesnar rematch where Brock has sent Goldberg packing.

Whether they'll actually follow through on something like that is another matter all together.

There's also the practical issues of actually convincing Goldberg to play a heel, especially on his way out, and finding people he'd be willing to put over. They shouldn't be issues, but I'd imagine, realistically, they were. I think most of the people he'd be fine with losing to (total guessing here, but I'd say Rock or Angle) wouldn't help long term any more than Brock, while at least with Lensar beating Goldberg, it gives one of the people they consider to be a long term mainstay a chance to have a little closure on the early days of Lesnar getting the mock Goooold-beeeerg chants.

I think the real mistake made in all of this was going away from Lesnar/Benoit and never really having a big Kane/Goldberg match, which could have been something back when both were on a roll in the fall. With that damage already done, this is probably as useful a solution for what to do with Goldberg as they have, taking into account the context above and the practical situation that there was already going to be a guy on one of the two shows who gets to be a dominant heel going into Wrestlemania, and there's little chance HHH would have been OK with Goldberg doing the same over on SmackDown.
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