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So, by all newz site accounts, it sounds like Goldberg vs Triple H will be our SummerSlam main event (guess we'll find out soon enough).

The one unfortunate thing is that, they've known this would probably be the main event since Bad Blood (or perhaps they were waffling on that idea); why wait until NOW to start hyping it? It's not as though either man has been particularly busy doing anything else for the last month.

That said, how should they build up the show from here? Here's my two cents:

On tonight's Raw, have Eric Bischoff declare that whomever wins the Michaels-Jericho match will face HHH at SummerSlam. Have Jericho win (if that's possible; I mean, HBK SHOULD return the job, but we'll see) and then have Goldberg go ringside post-match to challenge Jericho for the SummerSlam shot. Then at least you have something to look forward to next Monday.

Goldberg defeats Jericho handily in their Bad Blood rematch on July 28, giving them three Mondays until SummerSlam, by my math.

On the first Raw, I'd have Goldberg cut a promo, until HHH comes out, brings up their whole checkered past (including the autograph thing from a few years ago). Have HHH call Goldberg an overpaid, untalented, never-was, and then have Goldberg spear him.

The next week, main event with Goldberg against Flair, and have HHH taunting Goldberg the entire show, but the two never meet in the ring. Replay the whole `HHH is legitimately scared of Goldberg' angle that they've done for him and Mick Foley, Booker and even Nash last month.

Then the Monday before SS, have Goldberg against Randy Orton on top, make it look like Triple H will cost Goldberg the match, but then have Goldberg attack all three, ending the show.

I know, it's not a highly original concept, but at least it helps to build interest for an otherwise `ehh' match.

What do you folks think?



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.15
Let the countdown begin until Triple H belittles Goldberg's WCW accomplishments.

Triple H should have been dodging and ducking Goldberg since April. Now it's just another match.
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I hope Berg beats him, but would it make sense to add another party to delay the jobbing?



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Is there a way for both of them to beat each other?



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#5 Posted on

    Originally posted by asteroidboy
    Is there a way for both of them to beat each other?

...without Jericho having to job in the process?



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#6 Posted on
They're paying all that money for Goldberg (presumably), so they need to try to get some kind of return on investment from him.
  • Continue to protect him til the PPV (a la Scott Steiner).
  • Try to leverage all you can out of his name for the PPV before he gets any more exposed than he is right now. (HHH/Goldberg is the one match that they've been naming explicitly in all the local Phoenix advertising.)
  • Toss him out there with HHH, & see if (yet again) HHH can drag a watchable PPV match out of a former big-name who currently has little to offer at the ME level.

    Can you tell that I don't exactly have terribly high expectations for Goldberg in a full-length PPV match? G'ahead, Bill -- prove me wrong.

    I don't think they'll book HHH/Goldberg as the main event at SummerSlam. I'm holding out for Kurt/Brock.

    (edited by emma on 21.7.03 1351)
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    #7 Posted on
    I really can't say why, but I'm not excited about this at all... Maybe I'm just annoyed with HHH hanging with the WCW rejects (except Booker T of course).



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    #8 Posted on
    If this is the main event, then they should start pushing Golberg like crazy. I don't hate Golberg, like much of you seem to, but on the other hand I don't care for him at all. The only way to get him over is to push him like crazy, but that's when I dislike him the most. Since they have wasted time in building the "Monster", they should pull the trigger ASAP and have him plow through jobbers and lower mid-carders.

    I would like to see Evolution announce they're looking for a fourth member, and to be the fourth member you must beat Golberg. This way the jobbers and lower mid-carders would then get between Evolution and Goldberg. The closer SummerSlam becomes, they should then feed Orton and Flair to the "Monster". I don't think HHH and Golberg should come in contact with each other until the PPV match.



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    #9 Posted on

      Originally posted by Ringmistress
      I really can't say why, but I'm not excited about this at all... Maybe I'm just annoyed with HHH hanging with the WCW rejects (except Booker T of course).
    HHH may well be less than thrilled about it as well. "Wrestle Maven on Heat? Sure! At least the guy can ... move. Take a bump. Make an effort. And if I'm going to have to drag his ass around the ring, at least it's an ass that's easy to haul around."
    (Ooooh, I'm clearly cranky today, aren't I?!)
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    #10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95

      Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff

        Originally posted by asteroidboy
        Is there a way for both of them to beat each other?

      ...without Jericho having to job in the process?



    Golberg should have a title qualifying match - against the guy in the Tigger suit!! And it could be a SHOOT!!!!!!1



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    #11 Posted on
    Aww man! I can't WAIT for this match. I mean, what a storyline! FEUD OF THE YEAR! What with... uh, wait. Can someone tell me why the fuck these two are fighting each other in the first place?



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    #12 Posted on

      Originally posted by OMEGA
      Aww man! I can't WAIT for this match. I mean, what a storyline! FEUD OF THE YEAR! What with... uh, wait. Can someone tell me why the fuck these two are fighting each other in the first place?


    Does this one really need a complicated angle to set up? Triple H has title. Goldberg wants title. There's your premise. Shouldn't take more than five minutes to get going ... well, twenty minutes, since Triple H is involved.



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    #13 Posted on

      Originally posted by Shem the Penman
      Does this one really need a complicated angle to set up? Triple H has title. Goldberg wants title. There's your premise. Shouldn't take more than five minutes to get going ... well, twenty minutes, since Triple H is involved.


    I totally agree. But when have they EVER tried to get over the fact that Goldberg wants the title? Couldn't they at least to a LITTLE something to build toward this. No, I don't want Triple H to force Goldberg to wear a wig, or claim Goldberg fucks dead people. But I would like SOME type of face-to-face confrontation. And with a match this big, you shouldn't wait until 3-4 weeks to build it up. You should build up the fact that Goldberg is chasing after the title, for months. So far, they haven't even had JR say "Goldberg might just be the future Heavyweight Champion of the WORLD!". That's all I'm asking for.



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    #14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95
    Yup. Just have a nose-to-nose staredown. Simple, but it would work.



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    #15 Posted on
    As of now, he has the same amount of backstory with the "Tigger Suit Person" as he does with HHH. I say push Tigger, I bet HHH has a better chance of pulling a five star match out of Tigger than Goldberg. I don't think they have built Goldberg enough, hell he has missed the like 3-4 Raws already!



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    #16 Posted on
    Yeah, I'd be surprised if they still go ahead with Goldberg/Triple H when they have Angle and Brock ready to go at the same time. I mean, one match would absolutely kill the crowd heat for the next match (either in a good way or a bad way).

    With Goldberg not even being on RAW for weeks, plus the fact he's been trahsed publically by Linda McMahon, I just don't get the feeling that they're even thinking this anymore (or that they ever were). Of course, they could come out tonight and announce the match for all I know. It would be a HUGE mistake, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised at them for making it...


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    #17 Posted on
    I agree that Triple H vs Goldberg doesnt need much of a reason to happen. Goldberg wants the title and thats why he came to WWE.
    Goldberg also is the one man most in the wrestling world would buy as a true threat to Triple H.
    Either Goldberg wins the title @ Summerslam or Mick Foley wins it before the end of the year.
    I saw someplace that the working plan in WWE was for Goldberg to win the title and then drop it to Jericho before the end of the year. I would kill to see Jericho as champ again!





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    #18 Posted on

      Originally posted by asteroidboy
      Yup. Just have a nose-to-nose staredown. Simple, but it would work.
    Hey, you're on the writing team, aren't you?!! :-) I laughed when this is exactly what they did. Good call!
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      Originally posted by emma

        Originally posted by asteroidboy
        Yup. Just have a nose-to-nose staredown. Simple, but it would work.
      Hey, you're on the writing team, aren't you?!! :-) I laughed when this is exactly what they did. Good call!
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    #20 Posted on

      Originally posted by CRZ

        Originally posted by emma

          Originally posted by asteroidboy
          Yup. Just have a nose-to-nose staredown. Simple, but it would work.
        Hey, you're on the writing team, aren't you?!! :-) I laughed when this is exactly what they did. Good call!
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    I'm guessing it might have brught out the green eyed monster in Steiner or Nash. Maybe they're saving it for the ppv


      Originally posted by CANADIAN BULLDOG
      The one unfortunate thing is that, they've known this would probably be the main event since Bad Blood (or perhaps they were waffling on that idea); why wait until NOW to start hyping it? It's not as though either man has been particularly busy doing anything else for the last month.


    I largely agree with you but the one good thing to come out of it is that they've used Evolution during that period to elevate Orton to upper-mid card level at the very least. Like him or not, the guys a young wrestler with a fair amount of potential getting a push which is something we've all clamoured for for ages. Goldberg on the other hand has added absolutely hee-haw to RAW of late



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