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Considering his post winning streak drawing ability (which was virtually none), I don't understand this continued infatuation/myth that Goldberg actually is a viable draw. If he was, WCW would not have sunk during his continued push.

Please help control the McMahon population. Have your Triple H's spayed or neutered.

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After losing the World Title, where was this continued push?

Between January 98 - May 99 he beat a couple of main eventers, and was involved in ZERO big feuds.

He was injured for awhile...

Between July 99 - January 2000 he did next to nothing. Exited first round in the World Title tourney, squashed Horace and Jerry Flynn 900 times, and then moved on to feud with Bret Hart. This feud involved getting screwed - and was ended abruptly when his fist went through a windshield.

He was injured for awhile...

Between May 2000 - August 2000 he was a heel. In this time he beat up on a cancer ridden Jim Duggan, and jobbed to Booker T - followed by refusing to follow the "script" in a wrestling match.

Let's move on to the Vince Russo feud!

August - September 2000 he was a face. His "girlfriend" was kidnapped by Scott Steiner. He lost to Scott Steiner. His beef was with Russo who disappeared not long after.

Between September 2000 - January 2001 he was forced to win 174 matches in a row. He lost to Buff Bagwell. He was gone. He hasn't been seen since.

THIS does not prove to me that Goldberg is not a draw. This proves to me the booking committee had no idea how in the blue hell to use him.

Now backtrack just a little.....

When he won the World Title from Hulk Hogan, it was a BIG deal. Hogan had NEVER put over a newcomer like that in his life. (Warrior doesn't count, Warrior wasn't exactly a newcomer.) Goldberg was the man, and he was unstoppable. People couldn't get enough of this phenom - and it showed, because even though the WWF was beating them in the ratings, it wasn't by a whole heckuva lot and they were riding Austin vs. McMahon which would have been MIGHTY hard to top.

The moment Nash put himself over Goldberg - you could see the ratings dip. The intrigue that was Goldberg was gone, and WCW fans had nothing left. He was keeping the company alive - and had WCW found ANYTHING else remotely interesting he could have been the plug in the ratings for a long time to come. There's no doubt he was the future of that company and they systematically flushed him away as they do everything else.

I'll offer proof, from The Other Arena.

WCW had been consistently in the early-mid 4's for MONTHS... Between Goldberg's win and final Nitro before his loss, here are the highs and lows:

HIGH: 6.02 (August 31, 1998)
LOW: 3.91 (September 21, 1998)

December 28, 1998 - First Nitro post Goldberg loss: 4.62

February 15, 1999 - Goldberg is doing NOTHING, company focuses on Flair vs. Hogan: 3.94

May 3, 1999 - WCW kicks the DDP vs. Kevin Nash feud into high gear. Goldberg feuds with Sting for no apparent reason: 3.41

June 21, 1999 - Goldberg off TV for weeks: 3.12

And thus the freefall continued.

Goldberg a draw? I think so... It'll be interesting to see if he can avoid bad booking this time around.

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