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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05

    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by odessasteps

      While I have nothing personal against the Pack, nothing would make me more happy than for Tampa to go into Lambeau and beat Favre with the temperature below freezing so we can STOP with those stupid "Favre doesn't lose when it's x degrees and Tampa can't win when it's x degrees. I mean, the Tampa number used to be like 40-something degrees and then they won a game, so they just LOWERED the number.


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    (edited by CRZ on 25.12.02 0741)



i heard the same thing on sports center last night

tampa has never won, and lost 20 times under 40 degrees, and has only won 6 games when it was between 40-50 degrees...



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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
Not including last years game vs. the Eagles:

http://www.sptimes.com/2002/01/12/Playoffs/Tampa_Bay_Buccaneers_.shtml



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#23 Posted on

    Originally posted by TheBucsFan

      Originally posted by kennydoes
      While the Giants may be a hot team, the Eagles are even hotter. They lose their star QB and win 5 in a row with their 2nd and 3rd Qbs. Giants have only won 3 in a row, after losing to Tennesee and Houston.

      The Bucs are without their mediocre QB and get beat by the Steelers at home. The eagles are just a better all around team.



    To say Brad Johnson is a "mediocre QB" and leave it at that makes me think I'm reading the post of a four year old. Care to explain why? I guess it takes a real chump to lead an offense with no running game and shitty offensive line to go out and play (part of the time with two broken ribs, mind you) and lead his team to some big wins. If you think he sucks, fine. But explain yourself or just don't speak at all.

    He may not be Brett Favre or Donovan McNabb, and the Bucs may not be the 1999 Rams on the offensive side of the ball, but Brad Johnson is smart, damn tough, and a good quarterback. He has completely reversed my opinion of him this season.



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I didn't say he sucks. I said he was mediocre. he wins a big game now and then, but just this year he lost to the Eagles, and the saints twice. My point was that The eagles went without Donovan, who is a much better QB and the eagles won 5 straight. The Bucs were without Brad Johnson for 1 game, and he isn't as big of a loss as Donovan, and they lost. It wasn't meant to be a cheep shot at Brad johnson, as much of a statement that the eagles are a better all around team.
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#24 Posted on

    Originally posted by tarnish
    Shaun King looked like a high school quarterback; he managed to throw a duck to just about every Bucs receiver. Rob Johnson looked really quite good on the third quarter 97-yard drive for fumble. Well, until the fumble, really


What you described IS Rob Johnson, I've seen this guy's act in Buffalo on many occasions during the Johnson/Flutie saga. He's got the height and the arm strength, he'll pass for 300 yards and get you in the red zone 6 times. BUT you'll be lucky if he you score one TouchDown, usually you wish your lucky stars that he doesn't screw up and you can get a field goal. Because usually in a game he'll throw an interception in the endzone once, he'll fumble the ball away once, and his personal trademark he'll get sacked on a couple of possessions to get you out of field goal range... As I said he'll throw for 300 yards, he might get you in the redzone 6 times but you'll be lucky to get 10 points out of it. Haven't even mention that he usually gets injured before the final whistle. Not exaggerating it's some insane stat that he had in Buffalo that about half his games he had to be taken out at some point due to injury.

From reports that I heard The Bucs are starting surfer boi Robbie Johnson this weekend. The Bears are pretty awful so he might have a chance to finish the game



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#25 Posted on
The Westwood One radio guys calling the Steelers-Bucs game said it best: "It just goes to show you how a good quarterback like Brad Johnson goes a long way to covering up the warts in this offense."

We're licking our chops up here, hoping for a Tampa-GB rematch in Lambeau. And sorry, BucsFan, you don't win that game. The Pack hasn't lost a playoff game in Lambeau in...hmm, let's see...ever.

And BIG UPS to the Steelers for their biggest Christmas present to the Packers and their playoff hopes since 1995. The name "Yancy Thigpen" ring a bell, CRZ? (What is it with Pittsburgh wideouts and weirdo names, anyway? Swann, Stallworth, Yancy Thigpen, Heinz Ward, Plaxico Burress!?)

Go Giants...help a cheesehead out!



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#26 Posted on
My brother has tickets for the game Sunday in New York. He arrives Saturday two hours before kickoff of the Giants and Eagles. If he goes to that one (he's going to try), I told him he needs a sign saying "I came to watch the Packers - Go Giants".

Meanwhile, my playoff tickets are sitting on my dresser. And my wife will be in Orlando for the Divisional Weekend game. Looks like a little scalping in my future!



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#27 Posted on
I don't get why everyone thinks Chicago will beat the Buccaneers this week. Is it just because of the damned curse or something else? The Bears are totally ravaged: They're playing a backup who's been prone to injury, their only running back is on the IL, Marty Booker's their only consistent WR threat. Defense and their opponents' disinterest have been the only thing that have kept them in their games (the Jets being a perfect example), and the defense is as equally ravaged, which is a testament to Brian Urlacher's godliness. Plus, Champaign ain't no Soldier Field.

The curse ends Sunday night. Once that happens, the sky's the limit. It's all in the fucking mentality.

CRZ, sorry, but I gotta root for the Jets this week - the only way we can get a bye is if you guys lose, and we need it as much as anybody. Brad, Sapp, Booger...



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#28 Posted on

    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
    I don't get why everyone thinks Chicago will beat the Buccaneers this week. Is it just because of the damned curse or something else? The Bears are totally ravaged: They're playing a backup who's been prone to injury, their only running back is on the IL, Marty Booker's their only consistent WR threat. Defense and their opponents' disinterest have been the only thing that have kept them in their games (the Jets being a perfect example), and the defense is as equally ravaged, which is a testament to Brian Urlacher's godliness. Plus, Champaign ain't no Soldier Field.

    The curse ends Sunday night. Once that happens, the sky's the limit. It's all in the fucking mentality.

    CRZ, sorry, but I gotta root for the Jets this week - the only way we can get a bye is if you guys lose, and we need it as much as anybody. Brad, Sapp, Booger...






If it was a day game, I'd say the Bucs would have a good shot. However, you throw nighttime the last weekend of December into the picture, and I wouldn't take any warm weather/dome team to win.



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42

    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
    I don't get why everyone thinks Chicago will beat the Buccaneers this week. Is it just because of the damned curse or something else? The Bears are totally ravaged: They're playing a backup who's been prone to injury, their only running back is on the IL, Marty Booker's their only consistent WR threat. Defense and their opponents' disinterest have been the only thing that have kept them in their games (the Jets being a perfect example), and the defense is as equally ravaged, which is a testament to Brian Urlacher's godliness. Plus, Champaign ain't no Soldier Field.

    The curse ends Sunday night. Once that happens, the sky's the limit. It's all in the fucking mentality.

    CRZ, sorry, but I gotta root for the Jets this week - the only way we can get a bye is if you guys lose, and we need it as much as anybody. Brad, Sapp, Booger...



McFarland is out for the season unfortunately, so he aint coming back no matter what. But yes, the Bucs desperately need the bye so Brad Johnson can get healthy. Johnson is as vauable to his team as any other playoff team right now (as was evident Monday night).
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#30 Posted on

Well, the weather is supposed to be a bit warmer for the weekend here in town....

I really think it's funny when Bucs fans go nuts over the weather stat. It IS relevent because it's a FACT.

However, the Bears are starting concussion boy who will be flattened by Simeon Rice (coming back to his college field) and taken out of the game. Henry Burris will then come in and wing the ball all over the place.

Jameel Cook and Ken Dilger are also coming back to their home college field.

Plus, the Bears are a bunch of whiny losers.

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#31 Posted on
First let me tell you guys how much I wish Brad Johnson had never gotten hurt. I know one guy who didn't buy his offensive line any christmas gifts. For the Chicago game I'm actually happy that Rob is starting. He has more expirience in cold weather games over King and after the way Shaun played last week he deserves to be third string. Now I'm not going to put all the blame on King. The offensive line played their usual shitty game so he was rushed for most of his plays. The other thing is that Gruden's offense is a very tough one to learn. Knowing King's work ethic or lack of one I should say, is prob a big reason why he went 9 for 26. There is a reason Brad Johnson was brought in two years ago. Namely that King thought that just because Dilfer was dropped that he had nothing to worry about. King wouldn't touch the film room with a ten foot pole. If he worked half as hard in the offseason as Brad Johnson does he would be much better off.

It's amazing to me that Gruden bent over for the Bucs fans last week in letting King start. He wont even consider benching his personal fav. Pittman even though Alstott is the Bucs "fan favorite." But for some reason he let King start in front of his other pet Rob. I doubt King will ever start for the Bucs again. Anyone know if Joe Hamilton is still on the squad?(I'm looking in your direction Bucs fan)

My thinking on this Chicago game is that it will be much like that Carolina game Rob started. Lots of Defense and Gramatica. Bucs win 19-3
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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
Joe Hamilton is still on the team, but on injured reserve all season with (I believe) an ACL tear. To my knowledge, the only snap he has ever taken in the NFL was a kneel down at the end of a game last season, and even then I might be thinking of Shaun King.
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#33 Posted on
Suddenly that pair of $85 Championship tickets are looking mighty fine. Just win tomorrow and the NFC comes through Lambeau!!!!!!

(edited by Sec19Row53 on 28.12.02 1544)


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#34 Posted on
Strange times in the NFL. indeed. 9 out of 10 times, Akers makes that kick. But at the same time, even with the way the Giants defense was playing, it shouldn't have come down to that. Eagles receivers were dropping balls all day (and not having Pinkston hurt), and the Giants dodged a bullet time after time, with those turnovers not being turned into points. But I'll (grudgingly, I assure you) give the Giants their props, they did what they had to in the end, and that Tiki Barber is something special, fumbles aside.

I'm not so worried though, which is surpsing considering comments on the official Eagles board being posted as we speak. I point to the Colts game and the San Franscico game as examples -- if the Eagles play their game, it doesn't matter where they play; if they don't, they'll get beat at home, on the road, or in my backyard. Brett Favre's home record notwithstanding, the Eagles are not going to be a huge underdog if they go into Green Bay. Will it be harder? Absolutely. Impossible? Not even close to it. (This assumes Green Bay wins tomorrow, of course).

To tell the truth, I'd be more upset if they hadn't clinched the bye. The week off is more important for them at this point.

Also, I feel bad for our first opponent. Something about the Eagles following up a loss with a win every time for the past two years. :)



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#35 Posted on

    Originally posted by Sec19Row53
    Suddenly that pair of $85 Championship tickets are looking mighty fine. Just win tomorrow and the NFC comes through Lambeau!!!!!!

    (edited by Sec19Row53 on 28.12.02 1544)







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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.54

    That is correct. Sometimes the temperature even dips as low as 38. I believe the original streak was broken by a 42 degrees victory over Cincinatti, tohugh I am far from certain.


Aw, that doesn't count. It was against the Bengals.

I love this. Against all odds, Green Bay will get home-field, and then...well, you don't even need to have the NFC playoffs. Just concede it to the Pack right now.

And the best part is, Tampa can fall to 4th if they lose to Chicago and SF wins. That would set up probably Tampa vs. the red-hot Giants in the first round. I'd love to see those chokers from T.Bay go home early once again.



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#37 Posted on

    Originally posted by Big Bad
    I love this. Against all odds, Green Bay will get home-field, and then...well, you don't even need to have the NFC playoffs. Just concede it to the Pack right now.

    And the best part is, Tampa can fall to 4th if they lose to Chicago and SF wins. That would set up probably Tampa vs. the red-hot Giants in the first round. I'd love to see those chokers from T.Bay go home early once again.

Another reason that it'd be really great if this happened is I *really* don't want to see a GB/TB playoff game because, although I'm certain the Pack would win, I'm equally certain that due to the bad blood from the past games, we'd come out of it with at least two major injuries, and it would really hurt us when the Conference Championship came around.

Geez, Paul, you're not gonna offer ME your extra ticket? It's ONLY a $400 round trip, after all :)



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#38 Posted on
Man did the Giants do everything in there power to throw that game away. From Bad coaching why punt the ball with 40 seconds left on 4th and short in a midfield area? To fumbling and giving the ball away. and getting holding calls against them TWICE during touchdowns with both times showing that there was nothing close to a hold but the defender fell because of the turf.

Tiki Barber's a good runner but why does he hold the ball like it had kudd on it. He's holding with his fingertips and not doesn't look like he gets a good grab on it. Seeing him run yesterday I was surprised he didn't drop the ball 3 or 4 more times. Oh yeah also that Shockey kid can play, And he's just a rookie!

That field was a mess yesterday, how on earth are they going to repair it for a game 24 hours later. CRZ talks about injuries, lets all hope that turf monster (fake grass or whatever was on that field) doesn't get anyone today.




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#39 Posted on
Damn, Big Bad...you writing my Eagles off already? It's cool...one streak over, time to start a new 3-game winning streak. With the added knowledge that they can't throw away any games (especially those that they should have won) from now on.

Oh, and that field was terrible (one of the few times I actually agreed with Collinsworth's commentary). It will be interesting to see what it looks like for the 4:15 game today.

Mostly, after today, it will be nice to see what the final seedings and playoff participants will actually be.



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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
I just hope the seedings turn out so that we are faced with GB/TB in the second round, because the Bucs would go to Green Bay and beat them again, leaving Packers fans in a state of shock for some reason. Though, it is still possible if GB loses and TB wins for the Bucs to get a first round bye, meaning Green Bay would probably come to Tampa in the second round and we all saw in week 12 how well that works out for the Cheeseheads.
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