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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.33
And has single handly got me hooked on comics from issue number one. I couldn't wait for the trade, I had to get them all. I picked up issue number six and all I can say is "wow". The art is inredible, but for me it's the writing. From a guy who writes himself, this story behind Hal Jordan is one that has had so much potential, it just needed someone to piece it together. And it was done. Just a tremendous job by Geoff Johns, who with his work on this title has gotten me to read The Flash and Teen Titans as well. Of course, there's all the fun Identity Crisis stuff too.


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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.44
Agreed. The only sad part is that there are so FEW really dynamic comic writers today that they just keep stretching the ones that are awesome SO thin (Johns, Bendis). Eventually they will burn out or get bad (see, Claremont, Chris).

Part of my problem with comics of the past 10 years or so is the gluttony of NEW AWESOME CHARACTERS that have flooded the market needlessly. The Big Two need to resist the urge to try to create new heroes and just get good writers on the established heroes (since newer ones are just remixes of the classics anyway).



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.50
This series was fantastic from issues 1-4. The last two issues were very anti-climatic and were just going through the motions. Issue 6 was very cliche and border-line cheesy. Luckily the entire series wasn't written this way. Case in point, Batman with the "maybe the universe needs a little more light" crap. Whatever. And sure, like Hal Jordan could sucker punch Batman like that. What is the point of that? What does writing that do to benefit anyone? Have the character you're rebuilding punch out your top draw and summer movie character.

But the way that everything Green Lantern in the DC Universe was brought together and consolidated was great in 'Rebirth'. I look forward to a great new GL series.
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Because, less people will go to see Batman Begins because he got suckerpunched in a random comic book.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.13
    Originally posted by bradbrice
    And sure, like Hal Jordan could sucker punch Batman like that. What is the point of that? What does writing that do to benefit anyone? Have the character you're rebuilding punch out your top draw and summer movie character.


The feeling I got from most people who read that and saw the suckerpunch was "right on," especially because Batman's character has been a real dick for the past year to everyone and needs to be put in his place once in awhile...for example, in The Flash a few issues ago where Batman confronts Wally and tries to blame the death of Tim Drake's father on Wally because Captain Boomerang was "one of his [rogues]." Wally informing him that he's facing rogues that not only have superpowers (or devices that give them as such) but are also organized like the Mafia, in contrast to Batman's villains who are all just complete raving psychopaths that leave clues everywhere for him, was a great moment.

Batman for so long has been portrayed as invincible and infallible (especially for a guy with no metahuman abilities) that it's about time writers started to knock the character down a few pegs.

    Originally posted by DrOp
    Agreed. The only sad part is that there are so FEW really dynamic comic writers today that they just keep stretching the ones that are awesome SO thin (Johns, Bendis). Eventually they will burn out or get bad (see, Claremont, Chris).


Also, agreed that Geoff Johns is the best thing going for DC right now. Don't, however, dismiss Greg Rucka, who is also becoming a favorite of mine. Gail Simone's stuff isn't that bad either. As for Chris Claremont...well, I don't think he was stretched all that thin necessarily (I don't even remember him tackling more than one comic series at any given time), it's just a matter of him being so obsessed with the mythos of science fiction that it gets in the way of anything he writes. He's also still stuck in a storytelling structure that was better suited in the early eighties, but compounded because he simply doesn't have the writing chops he had back then.

Regardless, very much looking forward to Geoff Johns writing the relaunch of Green Lantern.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.32
    Originally posted by TheMASKEDComputerGeek
    Because, less people will go to see Batman Begins because he got suckerpunched in a random comic book.

My point is that Batman as a character is supposed to be trained in hand to hand combat, is supposed to be ready for anything, and while the moment was all fine and good for Green Lantern in this "I can't do wrong, I'm back, I'm the best ever" series finale, I just don't see the point in throwing Batman in there to get punched.

You've got a movie coming up where you're spotlighting this guy and you're trying to win back your share of the comic book movie audience. There's really nothing gained by having this guy get beat up just so that Green Lantern can look good when he's already been built up as almost a god through 6 issues.

    Originally posted by Deputy Marshall
    Batman for so long has been portrayed as invincible and infallible (especially for a guy with no metahuman abilities) that it's about time writers started to knock the character down a few pegs.

Umm, why? Isn't that why people like Batman? isn't that part of his character? He doesn't take any shit, he's badass, he can take down the entire league by himself and he's only human....that kind of stuff? Comics are about believability, and when writers can make us believe that a human with no powers can stand equal to the Supermans and Green Lanterns then that's a good story. That's good writing.

Sure he's human, sure he shouldn't be perfect. Read his book, he's always complaining about the people he let die or the ones he couldn't save. But outside of Gotham he's the Man.

Alright, I'm getting a little too into this. Backing off now...
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.05
I skipped it. While Johns is a good writer, I find him least interesting when he's trying to force continuity back the way it was twenty years ago, and Rebirth seemed to be nothing more than a long attempt to do just that. I can accept having Hal back, even though I thought it was kinda neat having him be the Spectre -- but from what I understand, Johns even went so far as to erase the gray at Hal's temples (did the Guardians give him a bottle of Just for Men?), bring back the yellow weakness, and resurrect the Corps exactly as they were before Emerald Twilight.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.13
    Originally posted by Shem the Penman
    I skipped it. While Johns is a good writer, I find him least interesting when he's trying to force continuity back the way it was twenty years ago, and Rebirth seemed to be nothing more than a long attempt to do just that. I can accept having Hal back, even though I thought it was kinda neat having him be the Spectre -- but from what I understand, Johns even went so far as to erase the gray at Hal's temples (did the Guardians give him a bottle of Just for Men?), bring back the yellow weakness, and resurrect the Corps exactly as they were before Emerald Twilight.


I agree with you on the graying thing; should've kept it. The yellow weakness I don't mind as much, because it gives the writers more to play with (every hero that powerful needs some kind of weakness). I'm really happy they brought back the Green Lantern Corps, though, because it always bugged me that the Corps was supposed to be responsible for protecting the entire Universe and then they were gone and it was like "oh well." Who's filling in these roles?! No way Kyle Rayner could pick up the slack for the literally hundreds of members by himself. Always bothered me.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.33
    Originally posted by bradbice
    What does writing that do to benefit anyone? Have the character you're rebuilding punch out your top draw and summer movie character.


You should go read the threads in the wrestling section.

GL Rebirth: Guy Gardner and John Stewart rock, dumb ass costume of Gardner be damned. Kyle Rayner is a sissy, Kilowog is nothing more than a silly Thing ripoff, only a ring weildin' everlovin' Alien. The Hal Jordan/Kyle Rayner stuff in space was akin to the Ambiguously Gay Duo, with Sinestro proving himself to be cooler than either combined, sort of like a Punisher with a ring. Oh, but Punisher is actually a really good read, with the Up is Down and Black is White storyline. The absolute coolest thing was Hal Jordan decking Batman, if only because it showed he had a pair. Well, also because I like to see Batman get knocked around.



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But it was cheesy and cliche nonetheless.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.19
    Originally posted by Deputy Marshall
    I'm really happy they brought back the Green Lantern Corps, though, because it always bugged me that the Corps was supposed to be responsible for protecting the entire Universe and then they were gone and it was like "oh well." Who's filling in these roles?! No way Kyle Rayner could pick up the slack for the literally hundreds of members by himself. Always bothered me.

This was a fairly important DC storyline in the mid-90's. The Darkstars attempted to become a sucessor to the Corps. They had a few former GL's-- like John Stewart and the Big Tubby Headed GL. There was also a quick mini-series in the late 90's, when Kyle flew off to space in an attempt to re-start the Corps. Plus, Vril Dox's subscription-based LEGION was around (and still is around, as seen in "Adam Strange").

Sorry, but I thought "Rebirth" was quite the pile. Read like a long, drawn-out homage to someone's favorite character. There was really no suspense or sense of intrigue. You knew Hal, Sinestro and all their attachments would come back.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.18
I don't know, I think it was all worth it just to see Gardner say: "ONE PUNCH! HA!" Classic.
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