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Just saw my first "Hi this is Rudolph Giuliani and I want you to meet the guy I think would make a great California governor" ad

Bill Simon's probably ready to leap from the "unknown" of the big three - Bill Jones has been Secretary of State for like forever, and everybody in the southern half of the state knows former LA mayor Richard Riordan - but I think Rudy's still got some mileage left and his endorsement will do for Simon what it did for Bloomie in the NY mayor's race.

The HARD part is getting the nomination. I think it'll be downright EASY to unseat Gray Davis. What a horrible job he's done...



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Hey Zed - This is mildly off topic, but I have a question for you, a card-carrying libertarian. How do you think a libertarian president would/should have handled the whole terrorist thing? Am I correct in thinking that the libertarian party believes in a smaller, mainly tarriff-funded army, or am I way off? Thanks.



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I say bring back Dan Lundgren. California would have been a lot better off if HE won instead of Davis. He was one of the best and smartest people in politics I had ever seen and was *sickened* when Davis rode on the coat tails of Clinton-mania and won.

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Originally posted by PalpatineW
Hey Zed - This is mildly off topic, but I have a question for you, a card-carrying libertarian. How do you think a libertarian president would/should have handled the whole terrorist thing? Am I correct in thinking that the libertarian party believes in a smaller, mainly tarriff-funded army, or am I way off? Thanks.



In situations like this, I'm usually so lazy that all I do is direct people to the party's website. ;-)

http://www.lp.org/issues/war-on-terror.html

There's some interesting stuff in there....there's also some idealistic stuff that sounds great in theory, yet very very scary and probably unfeasible in practice. Just like most of the party line, actually, now that I think about it... ;-)



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but I think Rudy's still got some mileage left and his endorsement will do for Simon what it did for Bloomie in the NY mayor's race.

Of course, it also could do what it did for Mark Early in the Virginia Governor's race (I'm pretty sure you're seeing more or less the same ad we saw Guiliani for Early) - nothing.

New Yorkers have a very different relationship with Guiliani than the rest of the country. The ad Guiliani did for Bloomberg (which was made by the best media consultant in NYC and was brilliant) relied on the viewer to have a very different understanding of Guiliani than the rest of the country, and was a lot different than the ad he did for Early.

I wish I could have seen the one he did for the New Jersey governor's race, which would probably have been an interesting mix between the two.

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King Rudy aside, thanks for the link Zed. The thing I find most amusing about the LP website is that every "press release" reads like this: "The Libertarian party believes this," said Steve Dasbach, party head. You'd think they'd get around to quoting someone else every now and then. Not that Dasbach is a bad guy, but variety, you know? Anyway, thanks. I've read a little of it, and I've got the window open in this handy NetCaptor browser, so I'll read the rest of it later.



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I admit, I'm not from California, but I would be a bit peeved to see an ad with Giuliani giving an "endorsement" for a candidate in an out-of-state election. That would really turn me against whoever it was he endorsed. Not that I dislike Giuliani, but I somehow doubt he's all that knowledgeable about what's going on outside New York. It might play differently in CA, but down here we'd think it was yet another New Yorker trying to act like he knew what was best for us.



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but down here we'd think it was yet another New Yorker trying to act like he knew what was best for us.

Hey, it's not just you Californians. New Yorkers know what's best for everyone.

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To hell with New York. (This coming from an embittered Boston area resident).

Check out this story from LP.org, about a Libertarian mayor who actually repealed his own salary.

http://www.lp.org/lpnews/0202/newsbriefs.html

God bless them crazy Libertarians.



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They're crazy, but not crazy like that...



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You know what's scary about that story concerning the mayor of Big Water? The town has 1000 residents, yet less than 200 voted in the election for mayor. Maybe there's a good reason for that, like 800 or so residents don't have the legal right to vote (i.e. they're all under the age of 18 or were dishonorably discharged from the Army) or the mayorality of that town is only slightly more important than the position of dog catcher.
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Hey, he just saved every person in that twon 1300 dollars in taxes, so he's got some kind of clout


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Well, if you conservatives can stomach letting the voice of the effete, chablis and brie eating, limosine-liberal establishment touch your virgin eyes, they did an article that actualy answers the question we were asking in this thread.

Click Here

I'll try to find an article about it in the NY Post for you, 210.

EDIT:
Here's
the Post article, if you want the news from a source without "liberal-bias." True to form, the Post stuck this article under commentary.

Moe


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I'm a registered independent, which means that under current California law I was able to choose one of four parties (Dem, Rep, NatLaw, AmerInd) for my primary ballot. I chose to vote in the Republican primary since they had the most interesting race (gubernatorial). I voted for Riordan because some opinion poll I found showed that he was (at the time of the poll) the strongest Republican in terms of providing an opponent for Davis. Not that I hate Davis or anything, but I wanted to see an interesting race in November.

One interesting fact is that Davis found Riordan so intimidating that his campaign actually crossed party lines and ran anti-Riordan ads. As far as Simon goes, he's going to have problems since he's viewed as a conservative, and this is California we're talking about. A while back, my (then) congressional district had an election to fill the office of the recently deceased Walter Capps. That putz Gary Bauer of The Religious Fanatic Family Fuckheads (or something like that) supported the more "conservative" Republican (whose name I forget) over the more moderate (and widely popular) Brooks Firestone, running some sort of smear campaign. Firestone lost the Republican nod, and then the Democrat won the general election with no problem. Perhaps she would have won anyway, because she (Lois Capps) was the widow of the old representative (which is always good for sympathy votes), but I think Firestone could have given her a run for the money. He was the only Republican in recent memory to get an endorsement from the local university newspaper.

When the general election rolls around, I will of course stop fooling around with the Democrats and Republicans, and vote for the Libertarians. The only time I vote for one of the two major parties in a general election is when I find a candidate so loathsome that I actually buy into the "choose a lesser of two evils" strategy. This happened in 2000, when I voted against that whore Diane Feinstein.



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Jello Biafra (Dead Kennedys) once said that " Democrats are on the inside what Republicans are on the outside"
Gray Davis allowed the U.S. constitution to be subverted by allowing various anti assault weapon and hi capacity magazine legislation to stand. But it was the Wilson anministration that saw these laws form. And don't get me started on the anti drug atomosphere here. Infact, I just heard that anyone born after 1987 can't even get a drivers
license until they are 18. It's now actually against the law in california to not have a physical address. We no longer live in a free country. In less than 10 years I think we will be under the same reppressive regime that Mexico is under now ( it's nearly Nazi Germany down there now.) I used to be a Republican because I am generally politically conservative. But my morally corrupt side just couldn't toe the party line anymore. I am Pro war, guns,and death penalty. But I am also pro choice, drugs and freedom in general. I vote Green now because I like Nader. He's got some good ideas.



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Well, if we do end up living in Nazi Germany (that comment should have killed this thread right there, according to the whoever-it-is rule, sorry), at least there is one good thing about it. I quote:

Infact, I just heard that anyone born after 1987 can't even get a drivers license until they are 18.

While I doubt this is true, I'd love it if it was. The less idiot sixteen there are out there driving, the happier I am.

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