What a sorry display. Who the hell sends J.T. Snow from second on a single??? I think I could've thrown him out from left, let alone Jeff Conine. Also, on that play, you could've hit Pudge with a Cadillac El Dorado, and he STILL would've held onto that ball. That man is the definition of a catcher (unlike Torrelba or whatever his name is).
I have a sinking feeling that Florida is going to win the NL pennant, no matter who ends up winning between Chicago and Atlanta....if it's the Cubs I'm not sure, but if it's the Braves, Florida's definitely winning. How sad is it that Florida can win two pennants and at least one Series in a decade, whereas Boston and the Chicago teams have gone generations without taking them?
Edited to add that Jason Schmidt is a woman.
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Originally posted by Big BadI have a sinking feeling that Florida is going to win the NL pennant, no matter who ends up winning between Chicago and Atlanta....if it's the Cubs I'm not sure, but if it's the Braves, Florida's definitely winning. How sad is it that Florida can win two pennants and at least one Series in a decade, whereas Boston and the Chicago teams have gone generations without taking them?
Edited to add that Jason Schmidt is a woman.
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That's easy. They've been fortunate to have the talent to win a title. Boston and the Chicago teams haven't. It has nothing to do with any goat or Babe Ruth.
"Deep down, we worry that our lives will pass us by without ever seeing the Red Sox win a World Series ... which is what this whole thing is really about in the first place. That's why Red Sox fans are so insanely passionate about our team. We're haunted by the possibility of living an entire lifetime -- 80-90 years, followed by death -- without celebrating a World Series title. That's not a curse; it's an imaginary guillotine that hangs over us every season. We're just waiting for it to go away, that's all.
That's pretty simple, isn't it? Well, it's true. I have made thousands of arguments in this column -- some of them good, some of them bad, some of them insane -- and feel more strongly about the above paragraph than anything else. Blaming Babe Ruth's ghost for 85 years of failure makes for a cute story, and as WEEI's Gerry Callahan likes to joke, the premise put Dan Shaughnessy's kids through college. But it's not true. It's a myth kept alive by writers, columnists, talk show hosts and producers of slanted documentaries for HBO. The only "curse" is that the media keeps bringing it up.
But plenty of sports fans battle similar demons, don't they? What about Cubs fans closing in on the 100-year mark? What about Bills fans losing those four straight Super Bowls, including the horror of the Norwood Game? What about Browns fans losing their team, for God's sake? Who's more tortured than Maple Leaf fans? You think Astros fans have had tons of fun over the past four decades? You think the Bengals and Cavs have been laughing it up?".....ESPN.com's Bill Simmons
Huge Marlins fan here, since '93. Unbelievable finish to games 3 and 4. I remember LeBatard in the Miami Herald saying signing Pudge was akin to "putting implants on a corpse." But we got the last laugh. Is there any doubt that McKeon is Manager of the Year?
Tough task next in the Cubs. If we get by their pitching, we should be okay. That's a big IF, though.
Originally posted by J.T. Dutch... And the Giants have everything go right for them TWO seasons in a row and still are unable to come up with the World Championship that has eluded them since moving to San Francisco.
Wire-to wire in the division and out in four games in the Playoffs. Couldn't happen to a nicer team -- congrats, Giants. It's pretty hard to play baseball with your hands around your necks, no?
I think it was more us getting hammered on the outset and the dodgers coming on too late, otherwise their flaws would have been exposed much sooner.
I guess Pudge and Conine's pictures go up instead of Glaus and Spezio's this year...
Originally posted by darkdragoonI think it was more us getting hammered on the outset and the dodgers coming on too late, otherwise their flaws would have been exposed much sooner.
... I tend to agree with that. I say that a lot went right for S.F. because of all the older guys on that team performing better than anyone could have expected. Bonds, Santiago, Galarraga, Grissom (one of my favorite players, btw), Young, and to a lesser extent Snow and Alfonzo. Tim Worrell was a big surprise, imo. But, yes -- they have no reliable starting pitchers after Schmidt, and they'll have to address this if they want to stay in the hunt next year.
The death knell for the Dodgers was losing Brian Jordan for the season. He and Paul LoDuca were the ones driving in ALL the key runs, and when LoDuca faded down the stretch (as expected, btw) there wasn't anyone left to pick up the slack except Beltre. Not only that, but Jordan's drive and leadership were sorely missed. Shawn Green was left to be the leader, and that obviously was destined to fail miserably. I could count the key RBI that Green had on one hand, and the shame of it is he played all season.
The D-Backs' silver lining is that they gave a full shot to a few young guys (Webb, Cintron, Villareal, Kata, Overbay, Hammock) and the experience will do them a lot of good. Arizona will probably win the division next year, with the Dodgers and Giants fighting them.
"It turns out that I have a bad shoulder, and that's why I've sucked all year" -- Shawn Green
Yeah, I would put my money on doing it so late to avoid the tabloids today. (havent seen either paper on line yet today) Sadly, I was having problems getting WFAN in down here today, so for now I've missed what Mike and Mad Dog has said about this.