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DC Comics is going to introduce an openly gay superhero, and it will be one of the established characters who was previously straight. (huffingtonpost.com) Apparently, there was a policy in place at DC to only introduce new characters as gay, but now the decision has been made to instead re-introduce a current, established character as gay, and make him or her a "prominent" gay character.

Of course, first joke that came out (so to speak) of my head was: Please be Batman, please be Batman. Just for the apocalyptic nerd meltdown that would occur. (But then, if you ask Grant Morrison, as Playboy did, Batman is "very, very gay" already.)

Batman writer Scott Snyder has already jokingly refuted the coming gay character will be the Dark Knight.








I'd actually heard a rumor that it would be Tim Drake that would come out, but there you have it from Snyder, it's someone not yet seen in the New 52.

That opens up a few possibilities:

Wally West
Donna Troy
Ted Kord
Maxwell Lord
uh...
Lobo? Has he appeared?
Orion?
Lightray?
Highfather? (New Gods and aliens would probably be huge cop outs.)

Speculate away!




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My bet its a female character to make it a lot more appealing to the 12-18 demographic. Has Artemis, Donna Troy or Cassandra Cain came back yet? I wouldn't mind having a gay male character around, but if its a Robin, its going to really be a giant joke. It should be someone that wasn't a kid sidekick. Ted Kord, I would be ok with it. But, isn't he dead?



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Given how many "major characters" relied on relationships for plots, they'd have to break up an established couple to do this. Unless it was someone who rarely had relationships. That makes me think it's a long-standing supporting character, like a JLA member constantly kept in the midcard.

I'll say Red Tornado. He's no A-lister, but he's been in a constant DCU presence for about 40 years.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.16
    Originally posted by lotjx
    Ted Kord, I would be ok with it. But, isn't he dead?


Pre-New 52 he is. I don't recall if Ted's status in the New 52 has been established.

    Originally posted by Matt
    I'll say Red Tornado. He's no A-lister, but he's been in a constant DCU presence for about 40 years.


He's also an android! He's not even a person. Next you say it should be a gay Amazo.

That'd be pretty funny, actually.

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.92
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    He's also an android! He's not even a person.


For a time, he was an elemental like Swamp Thing. Before that, he was an alien sentience trapped in a robot body. And he had a "family" with an adopted child.

I'm saying they have wiggle room to move in any direction with a new Red Tornado.




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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.16
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
      Originally posted by John Orquiola
      He's also an android! He's not even a person.


    For a time, he was an elemental like Swamp Thing. Before that, he was an alien sentience trapped in a robot body. And he had a "family" with an adopted child.

    I'm saying they have wiggle room to move in any direction with a new Red Tornado.



Sure. But you realize that kind of defeats the point of having a person who is gay in the current DCU.

EDIT: Oh, I see what you're saying. A new Red Tornado could just as easily be a gay person who controls wind as he was anything else prior.

Geoff Johns is making Vibe a resurrection project soon. Maybe it's Vibe.

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I just hope it's not Manhunter.



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It'll probably be Martian Manhunter to (a) use a non-human to avoid any real controversy, (b) use a "prominent" character that nobody really cares about anyway, and (c) to add ONE MORE feature to this absurdly complicated and overpowered character.
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Martian or the chick? I highly doubt it would be J'onn considering his back story is having a wife and children murdered in front of him. I am going with Donna Troy. Wonder Woman's history comes from a bondage fan, so this would sorta fight. Sorta.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.16
    Originally posted by lotjx
    Martian or the chick? I highly doubt it would be J'onn considering his back story is having a wife and children murdered in front of him. I am going with Donna Troy. Wonder Woman's history comes from a bondage fan, so this would sorta fight. Sorta.


The main reason I don't think it'll be a female character outed as a lesbian is because they already have Batwoman as a prominent superhero lesbian. Plus before The New 52, they had Renee Montoya as The Question, also a prominent lesbian. So another hot lesbian superheroine isn't "new", which I presume is what they're up to.

I think it'll be Wally West, personally. He's probably the biggest holdout character, considering an entire generation knew him as The Flash before Barry Allen was resurrected and took the spot back.


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    Originally posted by samoflange
    It'll probably be Martian Manhunter to (a) use a non-human to avoid any real controversy, (b) use a "prominent" character that nobody really cares about anyway, and (c) to add ONE MORE feature to this absurdly complicated and overpowered character.


Also, surely DC would see the problem in having its major male gay character be the guy called the 'Manhunter.'



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Growing rumor: It's one of the Watchmen.

Ozymandias makes the most sense. Rorschach would make the most outrage.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.16
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    Growing rumor: It's one of the Watchmen.

    Ozymandias makes the most sense. Rorschach would make the most outrage.


Adrian Veidt is already clearly established as gay in the Watchmen movie.



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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.50
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Originally posted by Matt Tracker
      Growing rumor: It's one of the Watchmen.

      Ozymandias makes the most sense. Rorschach would make the most outrage.


    Adrian Veidt is already clearly established as gay in the Watchmen movie.


When? I don't remember.

I seem to remember Rorschach being a bit homophobic.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.16
Ah, poor choice of words on my part, I suppose. To me it was clearly established. In the movie, it was more strongly hinted at by Zack Snyder. It's the sum of a number of visual and other clues: Showing Veidt at Studio 54 with the Village People in the opening credits, his speech about Alexander to Lee Iacocca, Rorschach wondering about Veidt's "proclivities" when he and Nite-Owl broke into Veidt Tower. But the real "evidence" that Veidt is gay is this blink and you'll miss it folder on his Mac desktop. (facebook.com) Also, mock advertisements like this (facebook.com) for Veidt products.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.14
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    Ah, poor choice of words on my part,


I thought the poor choice of words on your part was saying that a gay character was coming.
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.16
    Originally posted by theremin
      Originally posted by John Orquiola
      Ah, poor choice of words on my part,


    I thought the poor choice of words on your part was saying that a gay character was coming.


See, now I thought that was "clever".



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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.14
no reason it can't be clever and a poor choice of words.
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#19 Posted on
    Originally posted by samoflange
    It'll probably be Martian Manhunter to (a) use a non-human to avoid any real controversy, (b) use a "prominent" character that nobody really cares about anyway, and (c) to add ONE MORE feature to this absurdly complicated and overpowered character.


You're not the only one to suggest this (here or elsewhere) so please don't think I'm picking on you specifically, but I don't quite buy into the idea that it would be less controversial for Martian Manhunter to be gay because he's an alien. It certainly wouldn't create less controversy with, say, anti-gay bigots and groups. If it created any less controversy with fanboys, it'd be because of the character's status and place in the universe and not necessarily his planet of origin.

A friend of mine suggested, jokingly, that it would be Plastic Man. But then I thought about it and he would fit all the criteria, right?

I've seen Didio and others specifically mention that it would be a "major character" in the DCU that hasn't debuted in the New 52. That disqualifies the Watchmen roster, since it's not in their continuity.




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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.36

Lots of internet scuttlebutt points to Alan Scott.

(funny since, you know, his weakness is wood). ;>



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