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You know, you wait years to see something. You know it's coming. You think you're ready. And then it happens. It's one thing to see it in your mind's eye. It's another thing to see it. And it is beyond fucked up.

Anyway...

You are cordially invited to the wedding of Edmure Tully of House Tully and Roslin Frey of House Frey, hosted by Lord Walder Frey with special guest the King in the North, Robb Stark of House Stark.

The Red Wedding. It's the social event of the season!

Over his War of the Five Kings of Westeros chess set, Robb lets Catelyn in on his plan to take Casterly Rock from the Lannisters. It's theoretically a good plan full of pro-Stark symbolism. If they can take Casterly Rock, they get Tywin Lannister's gold and power base, plus it sends a message to the realm that the Lannisters are not invincible after all. Of course, to do any of this, Robb needs Walder Frey's men and cooperation, and even if he has those, an error in timing would allow Tywin to send his army from King's Landing, trapping the Stark-Frey forces against the Lannister Army and the sea. It's a risky game of Risk. Catelyn has her doubts the plan could work even if she didn't deeply suspect the intentions of Walder Frey. But see, Robb made this bed and he has to sully its sheets because what else can he do?

Finally arrived at the Twins, Lord Walder greets the Starks with the Westerosi custom of bread and salt, thereby offering them his protection. But that doesn't mean they're protected from Lord Walder being a skeevy old asshole. Walder sends his harem of daughters and granddaughters out for display - he knows most of their names - to show the King in the North what he missed out on when he broke his oath to make one of them his queen and instead marry that Volanti girl. But he saves his extra skeeviness for Talisa, who he evaluates with his Old Man Frey X-Ray Vision, seeing through her dowdy dress to the tight body underneath that made the King in the North an oathbreaker. Oh sure, Robb begged forgiveness from the Freys for his offense, and that he married Talisa out of love, but Lord Walder isn't entirely wrong in pointing out lust had more than a little to do with it too. Edmure, who still doesn't know which Frey daughter he's going to make an honest Tully out of, was pretty funny making faces in the back of the room.

The Red Wedding (as it will become infamous for) proceeds immediately. It's a classy affair, done up in all the traditions in the light of the Seven gods of Westeros. Lord Walder brings forth Edmure's bride and instead of throwing up, Edmure is delighted! Roslin Frey is hot! Lord Walder's been holding out on us. That clever old coot. Biggest laugh of the night was Walder and Robb making faces at each other. The relief of Edmure's face is palpable as he marries the hottest Frey and came away from this with the literal pick of the litter. Lord Walder's full of surprises, but that was the only good surprise.

In the riverlands en route to the Twins, Arya and the Hound bicker and banter as the Hound knocks out a merchant delivering salt pork to the Twins for the wedding feast. Arya doesn't want the Hound to kill the old man but she's cool with bludgeoning him into unconsciousness. The Hound, in his way, is actually being kind of noble, and he seems to have a soft spot in his heart for unfortunate Stark girls victimized by affairs beyond their control or understanding, but those Stark girls hate him and always will. Arya sure does. She knows the Hound is scared of fire like the Martian Manhunter and promises to kill him herself some day. She's nervous, being so close to the Twins, her mother and brother, just on the horizon, yet so far. What if something goes wrong? Something always goes wrong. On an unrelated note, agreed with the Hound, pig trotters are good stuff.

Across the Narrow Sea, Daario Naharis pours on the sexual tension with Daenerys as he maps out his foolproof scheme to sack Yunkai. It seems simple: He walks right in the back door by just being Daario Naharis, kills some guards, brings in Grey Worm and Jorah Mormont, then they open the main gate and let the Unsullied army in. Jorah is suspicious because Jorah's always suspicious. It's Grey Worm who gives Daario the thumbs up, and that's good enough for the Kahleesi. And so it was Daario marched into the back gate of Yunkai just by saying his name, whistles for Jorah and Grey Worm (he's one of the world's best whistlers), and they stride right in to a waiting horde of guards. Whom they fight and kill. Dig how Grey Worm fights, perfect form, smooth as silk executions with his long pointy stick. And faster than you can say "we did not have the budget to show the actual battle", the three amigos return to Daenerys' tent with the awesome news: Yunkai has fallen. The city is hers'.

Sam and Gilly make it within sight of the Wall as Sam regales Gilly with more Facts You Learn From Books that Gilly can't understand how he can possibly remember. Gilly calls Sam a wizard. Like the big fucking nerd he is, Sam takes it as the greatest compliment he ever received.

Meanwhile, in The Gift, Jon Snow and the Wildlings make it to the farm house of the old man who breeds horses for the Night's Watch. Tormund Giantsbane and Orell the Warg still don't think Jon is one of them as he tries to talk them out of killing the old man. The Wildlings storm the old man's farm and chase him as he heads off. While this is going on, the Endless Camping Trip lead by Bran has made their way to a stone tower, where they hide out from a gathering storm. Hodor is apparently freaked out by thunder and won't shut up with the Hodoring. It seems like Hodor is about to Hodor it up for them with all his Hodoring as the Wildlings chasing the old man end up right outside the tower. Bran Wargs it up somehow and enters Hodor's mind, putting him to sleep. This is a big deal; Wargs can enter animals but a person's mind? Then again, it's just Hodor. Surely the direwolves' minds are more complex. Outside, the Wildlings force Jon to kill the old man but unless your name is Quorin Halfhand, Jon just can't bring himself to do it. So Ygritte puts an arrow in the old man and that sets off a Wildling revolt against the two of them. As Tormund restrains Ygritte, Jon slays the Wildlings and kills Orell ("You were right about me!") but Orell Wargs with his dying breath into the raven above and nearly pecks Jon's eyes out. At the urging of Jojen, Bran is able to Warg into Summer and saves Jon, who gets on a horse and gallops like hell out of there, leaving an incredulous Ygritte behind. You know nothing about escaping with your girlfriend, Jon Snow.

In the stone tower, Bran makes the executive decision to break up their Camping Troop for good. Osha and Rickon are to make for the protection of the Umbers, while Bran, Hodor and the Reeds will continue North of the Wall to find the three eyed raven. Rickon has the most lines he's ever had in the series as he tearfully says goodbye to his older brother and for all we know the viewing audience because how often are we going to check in with Rickon Stark from here on out?

Back to the Red Wedding, everything's going splendidly. The King in the North isn't seated on the dias with Lord Walder, Edmure, and Roslin, but he doesn't seem to care. And hey, Lord Roose Bolton made it to the wedding feast. That's gotta bode well. Edmure is a happy, happy camper with his hot new wife, which doesn't escape his sister Catelyn or their uncle the Blackfish. Meanwhile, Robb and Talisa are all lovey dovey. But it's time for Joffrey's favorite part of a Westerosi wedding - the bedding ceremony! This involves all the men crowd surfing the bride Roslin to the bed chamber while the women grab ahold of a giddy Edmure and help wisk him off to consummate their holy union. While they watch. A custom Talisa doesn't understand. Talisa does tell Robb that if they have a son, she wants to name him Eddard. Robb is the happiest guy in the world.

Hey wait, why's that guy barring the door to the chamber? Catelyn's Spider-sense is tingling. Why is the house band ominously playing "The Rains of Castamere", the most famous song in the realm about that family who dared challenge the Lannisters and was wiped off the face of Westeros?

Outside of the Twins, Arya and the Hound are denied entry with their salt pork since the wedding feast is over. Arya's Spider-sense goes off and she sneaks away to see Frey men slaughtering the Stark soldiers. Grey Wind the direwolf is caged and his direwolf sense is going off, but the Frey men line up their crossbows and slaughter Grey Wind. Arya finds herself back in the arms of the Hound, who has figured out this place is bad news for anyone named Stark, so he knocks out his Stark and carries her out of there, lest she join the fate of her family inside.'

And finally, Lord Walder Frey plays his hand, breaking his oath to protect Robb Stark just as Robb Stark broke his oath to him. Turnabout is fair play, except it's horrible. It's pure blood spurting slaughter. Talisa is knifed in the belly, killing her and the Stark child she carries. Crossbows open fire on Robb and Catelyn, who noticed the chain mail Lord Bolton mysteriously was wearing too late to save herself or Robb. In her last act as a bad ass, Catelyn grabs onto whichever Frey girl Walder was married to and begged for Robb's life or else she'd kill the girl. Lord Walder couldn't have given a shit. Lord Bolton delivers the death stab to Robb on behalf of the Lannisters, who he sold Robb out to. Catelyn slits the Frey girl's throat, Catelyn gets her throat slit, blood spurts everywhere, the most batshit sick and crazy event in Game of Thrones' history has now been televised for the viewing pleasure of of audiences around the world.

It was as good and even more horrible than I imagined. Bravo.

Say hi to Ned for us, Robb.



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There is nothing fair in this world
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From the other tread:

HOLY CRAP. Something big always frickin happen on the 9th episode, from Ned Stark's head getting chopped to the Battle of Black Water.

Show starts off with Robb talking to his Mom about attacking Casterly Rock. She wondered why he would ask her about that but he reminded her that he didn't listen when he sent Theon to go get ships from the Greyjoys. If they fail, they will suffer the same fate as Ned Starks or worse. Cate Stark tells her son to give them hell.

The Hound and Arya, aka Team Hell No, runs into someone fixing his wagon wheel. Hound helps him out then knocks him out. LOL He was about to kill him but Arya stops him, trying to change his killing ways. They bound over fear... her fear of not making it to Robb and his fear of fire. Arya tells the Hound she looks forward to stabbing a sword through his key and out the back of his head. Hug it out.

Sam and Gilly talk about where they are heading and how he knows about it by reading. She thinks he is a wizard being able to read.

Bran and friends make it to an abandoned tower and it started to storm so they headed into shelter.

Jon Snow and the Wildlings see an old man who breeds horses for the Nightwatch. The Wildlings want to kill the old guy, take his horses and his gold. As they attacked, Jon made some clangy noise with his sword to disturb the horses, drawing the old man out so he can escape. Ygritte was about to shoot an arrow through the old man but Jon Snow was able to distract her enough for her to miss.

Meanwhile, at the Frey's Walder Frey introduces all his daughters and granddaughters so Robb Stark can properly apologize. He forgot the last one's name... slippy slappy swanson? Check the suitcase... Samsonite? I was way off. Then he verbally degrades Robb Stark's wife as just a pretty face and some tight tits.

The Wildlings chase down the old man right in front of Bran and Osha's hangout. Hodor is going nuts from the lightning and was about to make too much noise so the Wildlings would hear him until Bran rolled his eyes back like the Undertaker and shut Hodor's brain off. Ginger Wildling was about to kill the old man off until the eagle guy suggested Jon do it. Of course Jon couldn't do it, so Ygritte shot the old man with her arrow. Then Jon tries to fight the Wildlings by himself. Jojen urged Bran do control his direwolf before they are discovered and sure enough he was able to do so. Jon Snow FINALLY kills that eagle guy and tells him "You were right all along!!!" but not before he transferred his conscious to the eagle to attack Jon. Jon fends off the eagle, hops on the horse and takes off... leaving Ygritte!!
Later on, Bran and Jojen are going to go find the 3 eyed Raven. He asks Osha to take Rickard to safety... he will be the last heir to Winterfell.

For Daenarys, Daarios will sneak in the back door with 2 of her best men (Ser Jorah and Grey Worm)... kill the guards open the front gate so the rest of the Army can come in. Ser Jorah doesn't trust Daarios but Grey Worm does. It could all be a trap and 2 of their best guys would be killed. Daarios gets in, kills a few guards. Then Wave 2 of the guards come and the 3 of them were able to defeat Wave 2. Then of course Wave 3 came and we are left not knowing what happened. Daenarys is worried about how long it's taking and Ser Jorah and Grey Worm returned, looking all beat up. She asked what happened to Daarios and he dramatically shows up. They won and the land belongs to Daenarys.

Edmire was dreading his wedding so badly and low and behold, his bride is actually cute. I knew something was wrong when his wife wasn't Quasimodo. He cloaked her and they recited wedding vows. Everyone was having a grand old time at the reception. Cate noticed that Roose Bolton wasn't drinking, it keeps his mind clear. Cate mentions that Roose is married to a Frey. Walder has Robb summon the traditional Bedding Ceremony and the wedding guests lifted the bride to her bed and the Frey daughters escorted Edmire so they can consummate the marriage. Robb and his wife have a touching moment about naming their child Eddard if he is a boy after his father. "Don't you want to teach Ned Starks how to ride a horse?" Cate overhears this and is touched. The wedding band start to play funeral sounding music. Catelyn Stark is suspicious.

Arya and the Hound are outside pretending to be Hog Farmers delivering pork but the guards tell them the wedding is over. Weird. Arya sneaks in. The dire wolves locked up are acting up, implying something bad is about to go down.

Catelyn looks at Roose, lifts up his overshirt and noticed he is wearing chain mill. Sure enough, Walder gives the signal and his men walks up to Talisa and stabs her in her pregnant belly!!!! Archers pop up and shoots Cate and Robb. People were slicing away and murdering the Starks. Outside, the Stars celebrating are murdered. Arya witness archers murder the 2 direwolves. The hound knocks Arya out and takes her away.

At the reception, Cate grabs Walder Frey's wife who was hiding under the table and puts a sword to her neck. If he lets Robb go, they will forgive this. There will be no retaliation. Walder wonders why he should give a shit about her word... they promised all the old Gods and new that Robb would marry his daughter and they didn't go through with it. Robb has his hand on Talisa's bloody belly... gets up. Roose Bolton comes up and tells him "The Lannisters send their regards" and stabs him. Cate slices Walder's wife (He told her he will just get another... no biggie) and someone walks up and slits Cate's throat. DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

End credits have no music.

Guess I won't be expecting Robb or Catelyn Stark at SDCC this year.
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No matter what horrible things happen to the rest of his family, one thing Bran Stark will never be is The Last Stark Standing.




That was courtesy of Arrested Westeros. But speaking of Arrested Development and its multitude of similarities to Game of Thrones:

Game of Thrones could have used J. Walter Weatherman to pop up at the end with some relevant warnings:

"THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T BREAK YOUR OATH!"

and then he could have looked right at the camera at the shocked audience:

"THAT'S WHY YOU READ THE DAMN BOOKS!"

Okay, regarding the situation of how there are two ridiculously long recaps on this thread, I've decided that this is the last week my recaps will be on here on The W. Oudom can have the Game of Throne thread since he likes doing it so much.

What I'll simply do starting next week is just put the link to my recap on Back of the Head in the thread like I do my movie reviews and you can follow the link to my site if you'd like to read my stuff. Please do.

(edited by John Orquiola on 3.6.13 0355)


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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.02
    Originally posted by John Orquiola


    The Red Wedding. It's the social event of the season!




Or at least until next week when I assume we'll get to Joffrey's wedding.

Did you see Robb go down after one arrow? His daddy Boromir should have taught him to be more of a man. Pansy!

From now on any time somebody is being too loud instead of telling them to shut up I'm just going to tell them, "Hush Hodor! No more Hodoring!"

(edited by Quezzy on 3.6.13 0422)


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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.12
    Originally posted by John Orquiola
    No matter what horrible things happen to the rest of his family, one thing Bran Stark will never be is The Last Stark Standing.




    That was courtesy of Arrested Westeros. But speaking of Arrested Development and its multitude of similarities to Game of Thrones:

    Game of Thrones could have used J. Walter Weatherman to pop up at the end with some relevant warnings:

    "THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T BREAK YOUR OATH!"

    and then he could have looked right at the camera at the shocked audience:

    "THAT'S WHY YOU READ THE DAMN BOOKS!"

    Okay, regarding the situation of how there are two ridiculously long recaps on this thread, I've decided that this is the last week my recaps will be on here on The W. Oudom can have the Game of Throne thread since he likes doing it so much.

    What I'll simply do starting next week is just put the link to my recap on Back of the Head in the thread like I do my movie reviews and you can follow the link to my site if you'd like to read my stuff. Please do.

    (edited by John Orquiola on 3.6.13 0355)


But..but I like yours more. Well, now that book reading fans are down to their last two big things they can hold over their non-book heads, I am curious on how many of those non book fans are on the ledge. They said season three was going to be split into two halves. I cannot see this being the case. The Red Wedding was where I would have ended the season. Granted it is an episode early, you have to do the next big thing now. Its probably the only way to get some of those fans off the ledge. Bit of a change in the book, Cat kills the idiot son not the bride.



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After Walder's dressing down of Robb "I say he betrayed me for firm tits and a tight fit" his "And I can respect that!" sounded like the Westerossi version of "I'd buy that for a dollar!"

I've hated the entire Frey family since I read that chapter years ago but that performance was so awesome that it dilutes that emotion a little bit. I'm even starting to enjoy Joffrey now for the same reasons.








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    Originally posted by Quezzy
    Or at least until next week when I assume we'll get to Joffrey's wedding.


Three weddings in three straight episodes? The previous next week didn't indicate that would be happening.

For some reason, I thought the Red Wedding would be the final episode of the season. Then I remembered the craziest stuff happens in episode 9 and the finale is usually clean up/set up for the next season with some kind of uplifting thing (involving Daenerys in seasons 1 and 2). That's been the pattern the show has established.

The Red Wedding is the biggest thing that happened in A Storm of Swords but it's followed by two more huge crazy events, both of which can be saved for season 4.


Spoiler Below: Highlight text to read
Joffrey's wedding and what happens to him.
The Red Viper's fight with the Mountain.
Littlefinger escaping with Sansa.
Tyrion's final confrontations with Tywin and Shae.


I believe also the plan was to mix events of book 4 into season 4, because they have to set up Dorne and what happened to Myrcella when Tyrion shipped her off. The Red Viper and the Dornish need to come to King's Landing for Joffrey's wedding. There's still a great deal of book 3 to deal with.




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No chance they do Joff's wedding to end the season.

Oh, and the Blackfish escaped the red wedding because he had to go piss. Or was he in on it? Hmmmm..

Edit - I say link to your reviews, John. Might as well get the hits.

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I think they have to do some of the wedding. Just to give fans some relief.



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Man, I bought 2 sets of Pint Glasses (House Targaryn, Baratheon, Lannister, and Stark) and was just thinking to myself... why does the Baratheons have a cup... there's only Stannis running around and Joffrey is Jaime's kid. Little did I realize the Starks would be an endangered species. Guess I can put my full support behind Daenerys now. When you play the game of thrones you win or you die.
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This Twitter account collecting the over the top reactions to The Rains of Castamere last night is pretty great. Red Wedding Tears. (twitter.com)



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I'm playing it safe and using spoiler tags for those that don't know the books.


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I know previous seasons have usually peaked on the second-to-last episode with a low key finale, but given the wedding motif of the last two episodes and the fact that you have to leave the audience with something after what we just saw at the Red Wedding, I gotta think Joffrey's wedding is what they end the season on.

It also makes sense to end the season on the trilogy of weddings, since that's been a big theme of the season, rather than having one straggling wedding at the beginning of Season 4.

I can't think of what else content-wise, they'd spend next week's episode on. I'd be a little disappointed if they didn't end it that way and just ended with a ho-hum episode, talking about things. It made sense the previous two seasons, not so much this one.
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Pretty funny reaction videos:



See, this episode is another example of why Netflix's model of releasing the whole season is not for me. You won't get this kind of mass hysteria and conversation after the episode aired if you can just watch whatever episode you want at any time.

And you know what? Catelyn keeps promising to the Gods and breaking her promises. No wonder Walder Frey didn't trust her.



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Also...

George R.R. Martin: "Oh shit, I totally forgot that happens! (theonion.com)



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    Originally posted by oudom
    Man, I bought 2 sets of Pint Glasses (House Targaryn, Baratheon, Lannister, and Stark) and was just thinking to myself... why does the Baratheons have a cup... there's only Stannis running around and Joffrey is Jaime's kid. Little did I realize the Starks would be an endangered species. Guess I can put my full support behind Daenerys now. When you play the game of thrones you win or you die.


I haven't read A Dance with Dragons yet so I could be wrong, but I think Arya and Gendry (Who is technically a Baratheon) are probably going to be around for a while and are going to be important.

    Originally posted by lotjx
    They said season three was going to be split into two halves. I cannot see this being the case. The Red Wedding was where I would have ended the season. Granted it is an episode early, you have to do the next big thing now. Its probably the only way to get some of those fans off the ledge. Bit of a change in the book, Cat kills the idiot son not the bride.


The Red Wedding and Joffrey's wedding take place halfway through A Storm of Swords. There is still plenty of material for another season even if Joffrey's wedding does take place. John O listed three things in his spoilers. There's also the continuation of Arya/The Hound's journey and Jaime's return to King's Landing. And we've barely even mentioned the upcoming battle at Castle Black and Bran's journey to get north of the wall. Daenerys and Jorah and co. aren't done with their part in A Storm of Swords either. Maybe one or two of these things can be dealt with next week but that still leaves a lot for next season.

    Originally posted by oudom
    See, this episode is another example of why Netflix's model of releasing the whole season is not for me. You won't get this kind of mass hysteria and conversation after the episode aired if you can just watch whatever episode you want at any time.



Not to hijack this thread to go off on another discussion but there are pretty large positives to both models. You're right that Netflix television shows will probably never get a reaction like this. However, how many Netflix television shows have been cancelled three episodes in before they're allowed to gain an audience even if the show is really awesome? Zero. Game of Thrones is a rare example of a show that doesn't have to worry about this but about 80% of shows do and I think that a model that allows for an entire season of a show outweighs a model that will allow for these moments in very rare occasions. I would think the people that create these shows would also be for Netflix's model for obvious reasons.



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    Originally posted by Quezzy
      Originally posted by oudom
      See, this episode is another example of why Netflix's model of releasing the whole season is not for me. You won't get this kind of mass hysteria and conversation after the episode aired if you can just watch whatever episode you want at any time.



    Not to hijack this thread to go off on another discussion but there are pretty large positives to both models. You're right that Netflix television shows will probably never get a reaction like this. However, how many Netflix television shows have been cancelled three episodes in before they're allowed to gain an audience even if the show is really awesome? Zero. Game of Thrones is a rare example of a show that doesn't have to worry about this but about 80% of shows do and I think that a model that allows for an entire season of a show outweighs a model that will allow for these moments in very rare occasions. I would think the people that create these shows would also be for Netflix's model for obvious reasons.


Plus, I seem to recall a little bit of reaction to the entire season of Arrested Development on Netflix just a week ago.

    Originally posted by oudom
    Man, I bought 2 sets of Pint Glasses (House Targaryn, Baratheon, Lannister, and Stark) and was just thinking to myself... why does the Baratheons have a cup... there's only Stannis running around and Joffrey is Jaime's kid. Little did I realize the Starks would be an endangered species. Guess I can put my full support behind Daenerys now. When you play the game of thrones you win or you die.


By that "logic", why do the Targaryens have a cup? There's only Daenerys.



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    Originally posted by Quezzy


      Originally posted by oudom
      See, this episode is another example of why Netflix's model of releasing the whole season is not for me. You won't get this kind of mass hysteria and conversation after the episode aired if you can just watch whatever episode you want at any time.



    Not to hijack this thread to go off on another discussion but there are pretty large positives to both models. You're right that Netflix television shows will probably never get a reaction like this. However, how many Netflix television shows have been cancelled three episodes in before they're allowed to gain an audience even if the show is really awesome? Zero. Game of Thrones is a rare example of a show that doesn't have to worry about this but about 80% of shows do and I think that a model that allows for an entire season of a show outweighs a model that will allow for these moments in very rare occasions. I would think the people that create these shows would also be for Netflix's model for obvious reasons.


Well, I kind of like cable shows (for example: "Bates Motel" on A&E or "The Americans" on FX) because they would most likely show all 10 episodes unlike ABC/CBS/NBC/FOX who will kill a show dead and leave you hanging.
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