I figured there would be a thread pretty quickly about this, but here it is 2 days later. Did no one else watch this? Pretty good first episode mainly just consisting of exposition and new character introduction to set up the rest of the season. So nothing momentous happened yet, but there were some highlights.
-Cersei punking Littlefinger after he hints at the incestuous relationship between her and Jaime.
-Cersei channeling her inner Tyrion and slapping the shit out of Joff. He doesn't take it quite so easily this season to her horror. Loved the "I've created a monster and I'm not sure I can control him" look she had after his threats.
-Tyrion getting two of the best lines of course, both directed at Cersei. "You do love your children of course, your one redeeming quality. That, and your cheekbones." and "So this must seem so different for you. How does it feel....to be the disappointing child?"
-I thought Stephen Dillane was perfectly cast as Stannis, so wonderfully unlikeable.(not sure how I feel about Davos yet)
I was considering starting a thread myself since Monday morning, but I'm frickin lazy. I also thought no one else on the W watched it either.
Joffrey making the order about going after all teen and pre-teen male children in the city was purely diabolical. I'm not use to seeing a kid be so ruthless. I wouldn't be surprised if the kid starts eating his victim's family members while the victim helplessly watched like Vlad the Impaler.
Holy fuck that Wolf was huge! Easily my favorite scene of the episode. I thought Jaime was DONE. Done! The tension in that cage was immense.
-Finally we meet Stanis. He isn't exactly the imbodiment of evil. Just a p-whipped douche.
In the books he's not really seen as evil, just a brooding, humorless man who is obsessed with slights. He has a hard, unyielding sense of justice. So basically, yes, he's a douche. His wife is really the one who believes the most in Melisandre and her religion, he just uses her abilities more as a means to an end.
Stannis was perfectly cast as the humorless dick he is. Melisandra was good as well. I expected maybe a more striking woman. All of it felt like a major recap of season one and considering how big season one was, it was probably needed. Tyrion coming in like a pimp was just awesome. Did Joffrey grow six inches, he was towering over Ceresi.
Davos, man, fucking Davos. I can't wait to see them do his backstory. And wait, I mean til the DVD comes or I get another free HBO weekend. So, I'll just pop in and see how close and unclose they get to the books. So far, this was picture perfect including the Wildling scene. It was just as creepy as Martin wrote it.
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Originally posted by lotjx Did Joffrey grow six inches, he was towering over Ceresi.
Totally! I didn't even think about it until The Lovely Future Mrs. Hegemon pointed it out, but then it occurred to me that I kept thinking that Cersei didn't seem old enough to be Joffrey's mother, and I hadn't ever thought that last season. Yeah, Joffrey grew.
And, yeah, Tyrion ruled it in this episode. But then he usually does. B^)
For the sake of completion, I wanted to chime in with some thoughts about "The North Remembers".
Season premieres for a sprawling saga like Game of Thrones are always a bit weird because of the need to check in with everyone and re-establish where they are and what they're up to. At first watch, you're just in a "Wow, it's great to see you, you and YOU again (but not you, Joffrey)!" mode. Upon second watch, I was deeply impressed by how much story was handled in the episode, setting up the dozen or so major events to come.
The sequence with the Night's Watch beyond the Wall was probably my favorite, and now that I've seen "The Night Lands", the set up for everything, all the little details were tremendous: The mystery of why Craster was able to exist in his Wildling village while all the other Wildlings disappeared, "If he marries his daughters, what happened to all his sons?", etc. Man, Craster is an asshole. It amazes me how every corner of Westeros our beloved characters can travel to has an appalling scumbag there waiting to be met. And there's Gilly too, whom I keep thinking is Ygritte every time she appears.
As I recall from the books, Jaime was left in a dungeon in a Stark/Tully loyal castle (I forget which one. Harrenhaal?) and not dragged around from camp to camp. But we get the scene with Robb and Jaime specifically addressing why Jaime is being dragged from camp to camp and not left in a castle, with a rather logical explanation of Robb not trusting his bannermen not to succumb to a Tywin Lannister bribe. But the real reason is, Jaime is too awesome and important a character not to have on the show at every opportunity. Even beaten up and chained up, he's incredibly rude and funny. One day, Jaime and Tyrion should travel around Westeros and do the Lannister Brothers Comedy Act.
One thing I don't quite recall from the book, and maybe someone can clarify, is whether in the book Catelyn volunteered for the mission to go to the Stormlands and negotiate with Renly, or if Robb sent her as the episode depicted. Because in the episode, Catelyn *finally* expressed a proper motherly desire to return to Winterfell and see Bran and Rickon, which I don't remember her expressing in the book (one of the reasons I hate her). No seriously, I hate Cercei less than I hate Catelyn, for different reasons. I'm not sure what that says about them or me.
One thing I can't fault Catelyn for: not trusting Balon Greyjoy. Or trusting Theon to be able to pull off his plan to get his father to join Robb and loan him their Iron ships to assault King's Landing, defeat Joffrey, and rescue his sisters. What a fanciful plan that is! In some other fantasy story, such an exciting gambit would work! But this is Game of Thrones, where no one's plans ever turn out like they want, if even.
My other favorite scene was Stannis rewriting the letter that would be sent out via ravens to all the lords in Westeros exposing the incest between Cercei and Jaime. "My beloved brother? I didn't love him and he didn't love me." "Jaime Lannister, the Kingslayer. Make it Ser Jaime Lannister. Whatever he may be, he's still a knight." I appreciate Stannis' thoroughness as an editor.
Grey Wind is huge. I couldn't help note how big his head is.
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Why mention that? No reason. Come back in a couple of years, around season 4.
Oh, and I love the red comet in the sky. That's an omen for Bad Shit is Gonna Go Down in Westeros.
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That was a nice little episode. There will be some nitpicker that says there has been only 178 Roger personalities in the American Dad! Universe. This begs the question, what is your favorite Roger character?