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I think by the time Season 4 comes about, I may have worked out in my mind exactly what was going on in the last three minutes or so. If Peter never existed, then surely none of the events which caused the war between universes would have occurred? Or are we now moving into a world of several different time loops and possibilities all playing out simultaneously? Rewatching "White Tulip" seems like an excellent idea at this point. Time travel: I love it, but hate it at the same time. My brain is pickled.

Excellent, excellent way to end the season.
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I think we have a new universe, not a mix of the previous 2.

Also I suspect the series will end with a restored Walter going back to 1985 and telling his earth-1 self how to save his Peter (who died) and the earth-2 Peter (who he stole). I think "White Tulip" foreshadows the series's resolution.

If Peter never existed, then the 2 Olivias won't have him to fight over. And we need to see that. And the baby.

Also, BRAD DORIF. Denethor and Wormtongue rocking network TV.

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.06
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    I think we have a new universe, not a mix of the previous 2.

Is the Statue of Liberty supposed to be a visual clue that it's still just our universe? Although the lighting made it appear more "green" than usual.

Does the machine still exist? If so, what is it's purpose now?

Me thinking out loud...

How do we arrive at the future we saw? Future Peter refers to turning the machine on, but I don't think he specifically mentioned stepping into it. If Peter always steps into the machine and sees that future, he would always make the choice he made to save both universes. The fact that Peter *exists* in 2026 implies he didn't step into it. Maybe his injury was originally supposed to keep him away from the machine, and his sudden recovery (and his urgent trip to New York) was a new wrinkle in the timeline?



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.57
    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
    I think we have a new universe, not a mix of the previous 2.


I think we still have two universes, with a "bridge" between them under Liberty Island. Walter and Olivia can come out of that area and be on their world; Walternate and Fauxlivia can come out of it and be on theirs. (And, possibly, they can go into each others' worlds through there as well, but maybe not.)

I certainly hope Joshua Jackson will be back. He hasn't had the chance to show off his acting as Torv and Nobel have by playing two different versions of their characters, but he did a marvelous job portraying the future Peter as more mature. There certainly are a LOT of questions to be resolved if no one's going to remember Peter at all.

The episode reminded me a lot of "All Good Things...", the series finale of Star Trek: The Next Generation. I can't believe that's just a coincidence.

I'm not sure how to feel about some of the things in the episode. I do like that they've explained, at least, how Peter and Olivia's images ended up in the "First People" documents. Hmmm...maybe the images of Peter will be what causes the gang to realize he's missing, since the drawings presumably have to survive in order to be sent back in time with the machine....
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