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Since: 29.10.02
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I'm gonna make this quick, and let you guys respond to it...I just want to say that our ol' country mantra of "Freedom of Religion" is false. They should change the phrase to "Freedom of Popular Religion".

Catholicism and Judaism are all perfectly acceptable and we get days off for the holidays of those religions. Nobody thinks of Church as a weird thing, and nobody argues when certain holidays call for banning of communication and such (I do not know much about Judaism, so I can't go into detail, I just know there are some holidays that I haven't been able to contact Jewish friends on due to rules).

If I was to wake up tomorrow and start believing in radical ideas, legitimately, the world would shun me. If I honestly believed in nudity, being pure and without clothes all day, I would be arrested. That's indecent exposure, folks. And this isn't like if somebody gets drunk and naked and says "freedom of expression!". I'm saying this as an example of somebody who legitimately thinks they are supposed to be naked. They would be forced to go somewhere else, even if it was their religious view that God wants us to be nude.

Why? Because it's not a popular opinion. We have made up rules and regulations that carefully skip around religious boundaries. Nothing in Judaism or Christianity can't be dealt with. Holidays are off, sure, because so many people observe. That's why they're off. But perhaps we should admit it once and a while that only popular holidays will be observed, no matter what the reason.

The average American today will still look at you in a weird way if you tell them you aren't Jewish/Catholic/Muslim/whatever popular religion. And it even goes beyond religion. It has been, and will always be, that the minority opinion, even if honest and heartfelt, will be shunned by the system.
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The nudist example: you would be arrested not because of your religion but your invasion of the rights of others to be free of that indecency. Now where you draw the definition of indecent, that is another argument.
redsoxnation
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Since: 24.7.02

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Freedom of Religion was established so that something similar to the Church of England would not be established at the time of independence (remember, it was only a hundred years after the religious wars in Europe had ended, and the Civil War in England had caused many to leave it anyway). If you want to say nudity is your religion, fine. Doesn't mean people won't insult you (but, if you can get a tax break out of it, try it). Remember, the best alternate religion to go into is becoming a Druid. Then, become a doctor. Thus, you will be a tree doctor. Thank you, remember, parking is validated with 3 drinks.



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Bizzle Izzle
Bockwurst








Since: 26.6.02
From: New Jersey, USA

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#4 Posted on
People have the freedom to worship whatever kooky religion they want, just like everyone else has the right to look at them like they are freaks if they disagree. Freedom of religion does not gaurantee acceptance of your religion, it just means the government can't tell you how to worship. But everything has limits: you can't go around sacrificing your neighbors poodle to Zircon the space god. What if you worship the devil and want to sacrifice a baby? Obviously that's not protected by "freedom of religion" but it certainly doesn't mean that the concept is a joke. and I don't think it's any reflection on that freedom if people look at someone weird for following a non "popular" religion. If you are around jews/christians/muslims and you say you worship the Sun and the Moon and your neighbor's dog Sam and they look at you weird, it's no different than walking into an office building where everyone is in a suit and you are wearing ripped clothes, pants 20 sizes too big and bright purple hair. If you are really different than the majority, odds are that the majority will look at you strange. That's just the small price nonconformists pay for being different.




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MoeGates
Andouille








Since: 6.1.02
From: Brooklyn, NY

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.02
Remember, the best alternate religion to go into is becoming a Druid. Then, become a doctor. Thus, you will be a tree doctor.

Um, I don't get it.



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Zeruel
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Since: 2.1.02
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05

    Originally posted by MoeGates
    Remember, the best alternate religion to go into is becoming a Druid. Then, become a doctor. Thus, you will be a tree doctor.

    Um, I don't get it.



the joke depends on the knowlege of druids....they are nature worshippers...similar to Pagans...and are refered to as the "Tree Huggers"



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Jobberman
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Since: 2.1.02
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I remember a few years ago a story about a guy who was a nudist. He would conduct his everyday life in the nude. Shopping and such. He even attended his college classes in the buff.
Grimis
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Since: 11.7.02
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29

    Originally posted by Jobberman
    I remember a few years ago a story about a guy who was a nudist. He would conduct his everyday life in the nude. Shopping and such. He even attended his college classes in the buff.

Yikes...



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Corajudo
Frankfurter








Since: 7.11.02
From: Dallas, TX

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#9 Posted on

    Originally posted by Jobberman
    I remember a few years ago a story about a guy who was a nudist. He would conduct his everyday life in the nude. Shopping and such. He even attended his college classes in the buff.


Suprisingly enough, he was in college at Cal-Berkeley. And, the college used the guise of freedom of expression in explaining why they let him go to class naked. No mention was made of other students' freedom of avoiding the sight of exposed man-penis in a public place (and, if that's not in the Bill of Rights, it should be).
Mr. Cactuar
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Since: 14.1.02
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If it was cold in Berkeley, he'd made sure to use a bandana to cover up just enough of that man-penis so he wouldn't get chillly. So it wasn't all that wrong.



"You speak fast, you don't know me."
MoeGates
Andouille








Since: 6.1.02
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.02
avoiding the sight of exposed man-penis

There's another kind of penis?



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HrdCoreJoe
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Since: 29.4.02
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Well you don't wanna confuse Man-penis with horse or giraffe-penis. Thats just in bad taste.



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