Zombieland was originally written as a weekly series. It was turned into a movie. It was also funny as shit and I think it'll easily work as a series, perhaps a single camera 'Cops' type series with one of the characters always holding the camera and filming.
The Punisher can also work well as a series, but without the cop by day/vigilante by night crap. Why do these people always have to fuck shit up? They change the characters or the story and then when the movie or show fails, they blame the fans for not liking it or whatever but don't understand that by changing shit, they are taking away what it's fan base likes about it. Stupid, stupid Hollywood.
Please, please, PUH-LEEEEASE don't recast Zombieland. Just bring in a new cast as new characters in the same universe. (Although the Cops approach has me intrigued...) I just wonder (now that people mentioned it in the original story's comments) if it'd play better on a cable network, with looser reins, than network TV.
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Originally posted by XPacArmyPunisher could work but I think would fit better on FX
Yeah, Punisher needs to be on a cable network where they can feel free to go crazy-go-nuts with all the violence. It's kinda like how Punisher works better as a part of Marvel's 18-and-over MAX line than as a part of their regular continuity.
You would think that Punisher would be the easiest one to do, but for some reason, I don't think the interest is there. He is a dude with a shit loads of guns, great back story, but no real rogues gallery to speak of. If I want a show about an outlaw with guys avenging wrongs, I have Sons of Anarchy or Justified which are both on FX.
Zombieland could be ok, but again that needs to be on FX for it to carry its weight. Don't recast, just do what drjayphd said and make it another group. If you want give a shout out to the other cast or have Woody or any of the other cast members to pass the torch.
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The Punisher series on FX could do very well ... I could see it being the Sons of Anarachy replacement once that series runs it's course (it was just re-upped for a 5th season, but I can see it going past a 6th).
Originally posted by lotjxYou would think that Punisher would be the easiest one to do, but for some reason, I don't think the interest is there. He is a dude with a shit loads of guns, great back story, but no real rogues gallery to speak of. If I want a show about an outlaw with guys avenging wrongs, I have Sons of Anarchy or Justified which are both on FX.
They probably want Punisher because of the fact that he doesn't have a great rogue gallery. They can just throw a crime syndicate in the mix, eventually has a boss to deal with which could or could not be someone from the comics. And yes, that makes it very similar to all the other guys avenging. But FOX probably just wants to have a show and figured they can get some extra publicity making it an existing superhero.
No way should they do the "cop during the day" thing with Punisher. That turns the show into Dexter.
They'd have to change his origin too. Vietnam would make him in his 60's at least. Desert Storm would work. Make him a burn out soldier hooked on drugs and alcohol who cleans himself up and becomes a cop to try and do something positive with his life. But he's too good as a cop and steps on the wrong toes. Botched hit kills his family and he realises he doesn't need to do something positive, he just needs a mission because he's a soldier first and foremost.
Zombieland is more dicey. But I like the idea of using different characters in a different part of the country. You could always have guest shots with Woody and company.
Personally, I love the notion from the Marvel MAX stories where he was same old Frank Castle, Vietnam Vet, and that not only is he a lone vigilante in this world, he's a bit of an anachronism to boot; a real Clint Eastwood type. Older, meaner, more experienced, something from a time before positive role-models, self esteem awareness, and when you went to church to confess instead of Facebook. Give him an attractive young woman to act as a foil/connection to the modern world and you have something that's not only Fox (House, Bones, X-Files) but damn well accurate to the spirit of the character.
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The cop by day thing does scream Dexter.
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