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Mr Shh
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Since: 9.1.02
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.11
Discussing three shows in one thread?

Well, it looks like FOX is going to own my Mondays for about the next 8 months or so.

Arrested Development
Hilarious of course, but I still have the same complaint I had from last season (don't know if it's been discussed before)...Ron Howard editorializing while narrating is just plain annoying. Nice way to send off Zuckerhorn though.

Kitchen Confidential
Very very nice. Loved how Jack assembled his kitchen crew in the style of a heist flick. First impression is that the ensemble works well together.

Prison Break
Still pretty awesome, continuing the 24 vein of "who can you trust?" Veronica's new lawyer buddy seems to be playing the role of Janet's father from the first season of 24. But I can't help but wonder what would have happened to Michael's recon mission had Warden Pope not been so naive (seemingly). I actually thought Michael was leaving at the end what with the emotional instrumental rock music. Line of the night easily goes to Abruzzi: "Call my wife. Tell her to take the kids and get out of the country."
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Since: 3.1.02
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.11
I wonder how much longer Pope has to live. Its clear after last week they set up the succession for that asshole prison guard to take his place, and now he's pissed off the Secret Service. I'm guessing he's got one or two more weeks for us to find out more about Toledo before he gets offed.

I too thought that Scofield was gone at the end of the ep. I was expecting the origami swan he left for his cellmate to contain instructions for how to break his brother out and carry on the plan.

The play on words for "Take out Percy, Fitz, or English" was cute.

This is just a hunch, but I think he's bluffing about knowing Fibonacci's identity.





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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.46
My god a masterpiece. Hope you like double entendres.

Favorite tiny background joke:
GOB's yearbook entry said "Hopes to One Day: Go camping with my dad."
or
Lindsay's ringtone is the Arrested theme.
or
ImOscar.com plays a MIDI of the Buster's Secret Father music.

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Since: 11.11.02
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.66
"Taste these tears, Michael. Taste my sad!"

"Musty old claptrap" and the vulva-then-Volvo that was passed on because it was "too boxy." Both Bluth father and son almost having "pop-pop."

This episode was masterful and absolutely out of control.


About ImOscar.com, we find out that George/Oscar's prisoner number is 24601, the same number as Jean Valjean's and, if I remember correctly, Seymour Skinner's barred helmet from his stay in the Hanoi Hilton. So good.


EVE HOLT!


EDIT: to add that I love the fact that, instead of a bimbo, Michael is kneeling next to the Bluth Staircar when he tells George Michael that they can't go to the cabin. A really nice display of the priorities of the two guys.

(edited by Jeb Tennyson Lund on 20.9.05 0205)


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Since: 9.1.02
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.22
I couldn't get over how each of the guys who wanted to go camping had identical sleeping bags, regardless of the timeline or who/where they were.

Also, "rub off on your cousin". Damn


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Since: 4.1.02
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.53
Oh man, a long summer without AD was instantly forgotten. What a hilarious episode...I enjoyed the re-introduction of the Blue Man Group to the show, as well as the CALLBACKS~~~~!


Kitchen Confidential needs to slow down the pace by about 50% before it can be anything worth watching (though Bonnie Sommerville, Xander and Evil Dude From Wedding Crashers are all interesting).



On the flip side, congrats to ABC for hiring Tim McGraw to tailor the lyrics to "I like it, I love it" for every halftime highlight show throughout the "Monday Night Football" season. Just last week, my buddy House and I were discussing Cosell's classic highlight narratives in the '70s, and how nobody had approached them since, and I told House, "Only one thing could ever come close, and I know it's a long shot, but what if ABC hired Tim McGraw to tailor the lyrics to 'I Like it, I Love It' for each week of NFL highlights throughout the season?" And wouldn't you know, it happened! See, dreams can come true. --- Bill Simmons, www.sportsguy.net
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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.15
I was pretty surprised by Kitchen Confidential. I wasn't expecting much from the previews, but it was actually pretty funny.
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#8 Posted on
"Tobias
Swallows"

Did Bonnie Somerville's speech patterns and cadence remind anyone else of Courtney Cox-Arquette? (She DID appear in Season 8 of Friends as Mona...)
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Since: 7.1.02
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.94
Kitchen Confidential was a criminal misuse of talent (John Francis Daley, Bradley Fucking Cooper, and to a lesser extent Nicholas Brendan) and having AD be its lead-in is especially rough considering their attempt at funny/witty writing when you know just a few minutes ago you saw the real deal.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.40
I want a Grizzly Adams sleeping bag.

That is all.



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Since: 26.1.03
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.93
I actually thought that was a pretty weak episode compared to those past....My fave moments were already mentioned: "rubbing off on your cousin" and the return of Steve Holt (the statue with just the hand of the father was great). Too many double entendres.



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Mr Shh
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Since: 9.1.02
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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.11
Ouch, ouch, ouch...

FOX finished 5th for the night in the overnights...

AD: 3.0
Kitchen: 2.8
Prison: 5.0

AD's 18-49 number is HALF of last year's when the show was in the post-Simpsons slot.

Did anybody see that AD commercial where Jason Bateman said he would give one of AD's Emmys to Carmen Electra if the season premiere had at least 15 million viewers? Yikes.
cranlsn
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Since: 18.3.02
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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.49

Ouch...I hope they give Kitchen Confidential time to find some fans. Some of the other 7:30 (central) offerings last night were really weak, so maybe it'd pick up a few viewers?

As for AD...it's never been my cup of tea (ducks)...I like everyone on it, it just doesn't do it for me...go figure.



(edited by cranlsn on 20.9.05 1330)





SchippeWreck
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Since: 26.3.03
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.28
Keep in mind, I loves me some Arrested Development, and I loved last night's episode, but it was WAAAAYY too in-jokey to lure in a new audience on a new night. One of the things I do enjoy most about AD is the payoffs for longtime viewers, but you have to save that for when you've lured a few new people in.

I liked Kitchen Confidential a lot, but the show that really surprised the hell out of me was How I Met Your Mother on CBS. Yeah, it's a standard laugh-track sitcom, but it was really, REALLY funny, with standout performances from Neil Patrick Harris ("How's not playing Laser Tag? 'Cuz playing Laser Tag...IS AWESOME!") and Alyson Hannigan. It reminds me of Coupling (the good British one, not the crappy American one).

(edited by SchippeWreck on 20.9.05 1149)


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Since: 12.12.01
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.46
    Originally posted by bizmoney
    "Tobias
    Swallows"


Ohhhhhhhhhhh. baha.

    Originally posted by geemoney
    Too many double entendres.


Perhaps. Well, why don't you pop a tent in front with your cousin?

    Originally posted by SchippeWreck
    it was WAAAAYY too in-jokey to lure in a new audience on a new night


There was so much stuff going on that it was probably tough to jump in. But they ended last year with cliffhangers for everyone, so they had to follow up on that. All of that. Last year's premiere was more of a brand new start since the only thing that had been left up in the air was George's escape to Mexico, and everyone else was starting something new.

So there were a lot (a lot) of plot strings being picked up, but were there any in-jokes in this besides "I've made a huge little mistake" and 'having pop-pop' as a euphemism?
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Since: 9.1.02
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.22
    Originally posted by Mr Shh
    Ouch, ouch, ouch...

    FOX finished 5th for the night in the overnights...

    AD: 3.0
    Kitchen: 2.8
    Prison: 5.0

    AD's 18-49 number is HALF of last year's when the show was in the post-Simpsons slot.

    Did anybody see that AD commercial where Jason Bateman said he would give one of AD's Emmys to Carmen Electra if the season premiere had at least 15 million viewers? Yikes.


I think that while the rating number was down, the number of viewers was down from 6 million to 4.5. There are more viewers on Monday, so a lower number gives you more people than it would last year.


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