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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
From The Sports Guy at ESPN.com:


    Question: What was the most disturbing subplot of the playoffs?
    Answer: The officiating, also the most disturbing subplot of the past four playoffs. If you examine the last four NBA playoff campaigns, during every situation where the league definitively "needed" one of the two teams involved to win -- either to A) change the momentum of a series so it didn't end prematurely, B) keep an attractive, big-market team alive in a series, or C) advance an attractive, big-market team to another round -- the officiating appeared to be slanted towards the team that needed that game. I use the phrase "appeared to be," because reviewing an official's performance is purely subjective. Maybe I'm dead-wrong.

    These were just the games that jump out in my mind (again, I could be wrong):


    1999, Knicks-Pacers, Game 3 ... LJ sinks a game-winning four-pointer (called a continuation foul by referee Jess Kersey even though LJ was fouled a full second before he released the ball).


    1999, Knicks-Pacers, Game 6 ... Knicks last chance to close out Indy before the series shifts back to Indiana for Game 7 ... they get every call.


    1999, Spurs-Knicks, Game 3 ... down 2-0, the Knicks get every call in their first home game and win their only game of the series.


    2000, Knicks-Heat, Game 7 ... Knicks advance to the conference finals ... falling out of bounds, Latrell Sprewell awarded a timeout by referee Bennett Salvatore with 2.1 seconds left even though none of the Knicks called for one ... Sprewell admits after the game that he hadn't called a timeout ... the Miami players chase the referees off the court after the game, yelling that they had been robbed ... after the game, Jamal Mashburn tells reporters, "They had three officials in their pocket" and Tim Hardaway refers to referee Dick Bavetta as "Knick Bavetta."


    2000, Lakers-Blazers, Game 7 ... LA shoots 21 more free throws and rallies back from a 17-point deficit in the final seven minutes ... Shaq plays an illegal defense down the stretch, undaunted ... Rasheed Wallace absolutely gets manhandled down the stretch, yet doesn't get a single call ... up by four with 25 seconds left, Shaq body-blocks Steve Smith out of bounds and the refs don't make the call (the most egregious non-call in recent memory).


    2002, Celtics-Nets, Game 4 ... Celts up 2-1 ... the Nets are inexplicably allowed to push and shove Kenny Anderson and Pierce while they dribble the ball ... a number of head-scratchers go against Boston, including three offensive charges down the stretch ... four different "bull-(bleep)" chants during the game.


    2002, Lakers-Kings, Game 6 ... LA needs a win to stay alive ... from an officiating standpoint, the most one-sided game of the past decade ... at least six dubious calls against the Kings in the fourth quarter alone ... LA averaged 22 free throws a game during the first five games of the series, then attempted 27 freebies in the fourth quarter alone of Game 6 ... rumors that David Stern wanted to pull a Vince McMahon and declare himself "The special guest referee" for this game prove unfounded.

    (By the way, I would feel remiss if I didn't share this information: Dick Bavetta was assigned to every one of the above games. That's an absolute fact. You can look it up. Doesn't mean anything ... I just felt the need to pass that along. It sure looks bad, doesn't it? Maybe the league could do a favor for Bavetta and not assign him to Game 3 of the Finals, especially if the Lakers jump to a 2-0 lead over New Jersey. You wouldn't want to rile up those conspiracy theorists or anything. Ummmm ...)


I never really bought into this stuff, but those are a lot of games that make good examples and the same ref working all those games is awfully suspicious...




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#2 Posted on
But as we all know, Bill Simmons IS a notorious Celtics fan and a Knicks and Laker hater. Every fan whines that their team never gets any calls. I've seen much worse continuation calls than the LJ 4 pointer. Also, Dick Bavetta refs ALL the big games, so I don't think that theory holds much water.



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I would have thought that the league would have preferred a Boston-LA final given their history.

But like Chuck said, Simmons is a Boston guy.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95
I know *I* would've prefered a Boston/Los Angeles series.



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And why wouldn't the Lakers got more help in game 7? Game 6 just tied the series, game 7 decided it, and it was a game that the Kings probably should have won.
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The continuation foul in the 1999 Eastern Conference Finals was the absolute biggest crock of shit I've ever seen in basketball.

Yes, I know I'm a Pacers fan, but just look at that damn play! Antonio Davis fouls LJ, who takes like two more dribbles and THEN buries a three!!! A continuation foul, my ass!

But then, the NBA is great when it comes to screwing people, aren't they.



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95
But then, the NBA is great when it comes to screwing people, aren't they.

Damn right they are! Just ask any fan of a losing team.



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#8 Posted on
Waaahhhburgers and french cries anyone?

Cheese with that whine?

(edited by Dormouse on 7.6.02 1540)
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Dick Bavetta = Earl Hebner?



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If the playoffs were fixed Boston would still be playing. I mean, if you were going to screw a team, why would you do it Sacramento instead of New Jersey? I do think Game 6 was a little "interesting" but the simple fact is we'd be watching New Jersey-Sacramento if the Kings could hit free throws.



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    Originally posted by ekedolphin
    The continuation foul in the 1999 Eastern Conference Finals was the absolute biggest crock of shit I've ever seen in basketball.

No. The biggest crock of shit in basketball, and in all of sports officiating (excepting the Denkinger call in the 85 World Series) was Game 5 of the 1994 Eastern Conference Finals. Hue Hollins, and it was an effort not to throw an F-bomb or 5 in the middle of his name, called a phantom call on Scottie Pippen for apparently causing too strong a wind gust as his arm went by Hubert Davis with 2.1 seconds left in the game. Davis goes to the line, Knicks go up 3-2, and a Bulls team that I truly believe would have won it all that year without Jordan is robbed. The fact that Hue Hollins was considered sighted enough to pass a driving test, let alone referee a major sport playoff is a truly mind-boggling travesty.

(edited by spf2119 on 9.6.02 2334)


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#12 Posted on
Actually, the biggest basketball screwjob ever was the 1972 Olympics.



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From the desk of Swordsman Yen

    Originally posted by Big Bad
    Actually, the biggest basketball screwjob ever was the 1972 Olympics.


Right on there. That was the Dusty Finish equivalent in basketball. The USA got screwed so bad that even today the members of that team refuse to accept the silver medal.



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Yeah, I'll give you the 1972 Olympic finals. I stand by my sentiment though as it is the biggest screwjob in NBA history.



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Perhaps I'm reading too much into this, but Rick Fox was on Leno the other night, and this exchange took place.

Leno: Bibby and Chris were here the other night, talking about some stuff that went on the playoffs, and they are pissed.

Fox: And rightfully so.


I hate Craig Kilborne, especially after the Owen Hart jokes, but I taped him Friday because Johnny McEnroe was on, and he did have a pretty funny joke. "At the Laker's victory parade this afternoon, Shaq lost control of his SUV and hit a pedestrian. The police charged Vlade Divac with a blocking foul." I can see Carson telling that joke in his classic way and it being pretty darn funny.

Loves me some Letterman and Conan....



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