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|  #1 Posted on 22.3.10 1624.55 | Instant Rating: 9.69 | Hey, this was pretty awesome.
Everything involving Simon was great (my caveat here is I don’t know/remember whether anything was blatantly inconsistent with the fall episodes). When the subject revelation was made about Simon being Suspect Zero, I honestly thought that they already revealed it. Very cool reveal, either way.
Easter eggs at the ballgame: Oxide Super Stadium (name of stadium) and Havlin Fuel (stadium sponsor).
I’ve already spent way too much time trying to justify why they call the power ring a “quantum entanglement” device, not to mention what exactly the ring is supposed to do. I’m just going to let that silliness pass and accept it with the rest of the silliness. But it caused a little eye-rolling.
I think the technique that the writers are employing with Mark’s flashforward is brilliant. Due to Mark’s being drunk and not remembering everything, the writers can fill in that billboard and other details (like the phone call with Lloyd) when they’re ready. The writers don’t have to have all of the minutiae up front.
The show has no chance of coming back next year, it's episode order was cut down twice (from 24 to 23 to 22) and it returned to pretty bad ratings. Enjoy the ride while it lasts. Bring on Somalia.
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| #2 Posted on 22.3.10 1713.42 | Instant Rating: 8.43 | Don't I recall that there were some changes at the producer level during the hiatus? And there was also the word "retooling". There were definitely elements of the episode that did feel like they were changing direction or strategy, but I think they mostly pulled that off without violating consistency with the previous episodes. My guess is that they realised they weren't going to be able to pull off the Lost level of mystery-dangling, & have repositioned to be doing more storytelling. (If they don't act like they're trying to be Lost, then I won't be disappointed.) I'll give it the benefit of an opinion reset.
I'm very glad they resolved the missing time in Mark's FF as part of the "show reset". If they'd carried on with that, I would have been pretty disappointed with it. You're completely correct that it allowed the writers to make it up on the fly - I'm just not sold that was a good thing a good thing!
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| #3 Posted on 22.3.10 1757.51 | Instant Rating: 1.37 | Just watched it, good stuff, even if I am tired of them making everything way more complex and just forgetting previous things.. everyone always knows each other or are connected and the people you think are bad aren't. Waiting for the black FBI agent head to be bad.
That being said, good episode. Even if I can't figure out why the flash forward was on October 26 but there was a 2:00 PM baseball game going on.
The show has no chance of coming back next year, it's episode order was cut down twice (from 24 to 23 to 22) and it returned to pretty bad ratings. Enjoy the ride while it lasts. Bring on Somalia.
Maybe they should not do a weekly complex television series and then delay it for months then bring it back with no reruns prior to it airing. I'll give it a few more weeks.
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|  #4 Posted on 23.3.10 0508.50 | Instant Rating: 6.30 | I thought it was a tremendously fun couple of hours. I saw it more as a change of pace than a reset, but I hate Lost with a burning passion so anything they do to move away from that style of programming is fine by me.
The Simon stuff was largely excellent (although his twice escaping and being recaptured in short order was a little silly) and they managed to fit in a huge amount of stuff for him without it seeming too rushed. The Ring of Entanglement is *really* playing fast and loose with the dividing line between physics and the supernatural, but like Mr Shh I can let that particular brand of silly slide by.
I even found Mark to be considerably less annoying than he had been. Maybe it was just that he wasn't getting all angsty with the wife, but he came off as much less of a dick than I remember him.
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Just watched it, good stuff, even if I am tired of them making everything way more complex and just forgetting previous things.. everyone always knows each other or are connected and the people you think are bad aren't.
I might be forgetting something from the first half of the season but I don't remember there being much flip-flopping on the good and evil thing. Lloyd and Simon flirted with both sides and Simon's still firmly in tweener territory, but other than that they've kept it fairly simple I thought.
I still say either Welbeck or Noh are up to no good though.
Oh, and unless I missed it they didn't even have some completely random and/or inappropriate music playing at any point, so well done to them for that.
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| #5 Posted on 23.3.10 1737.44 | Instant Rating: 1.33 | The show started with a simple event - a flash forward - that's involved about 10 to 15 people right now. Two doctors, the one FBI group, and the few bad guys, one who just died as a result of the show's only real tweener right now. For a worldwide event, that's not a lot of related people. I know it's a TV show and I am fine with it as a result, but thats what I mean, there's a limited amount of people so they all have to be connected in several different ways (really, the main guy's wife was with the doctor who may have caused the flash forward in her flash forward)
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