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dMr
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.64
Nobody? I'm not really surprised. Kind of an uneventful episode BUT I also post for reasons which may be massively interesting, or simply prove I'm a geek and they're not paying that much attention. We'll get to that in a minute though.

This week we spend most of our time focusing on Bryce and his search for his mystery woman, who it turns out is called Keiko. After the fast pace and high stakes of previous episodes it felt kinda who-gives-a-crappish to me at least. It was nicely done enough and Keiko is pretty cute which is always a plus, but there really wasn't much to it.

It's another story where the events of the flashforward almost certainly don't happen *without* the flashforward though, so that's kind of interesting. Speaking of which, surely SOME people would have been at a "Flashforward Party" on April 29, 2010. Or at least have been thinking "holy de ja vu, this is my flashforward!" when it got to that time.

I still think Noh *could* be the double agent but I hope not, for him and Weddick are the only police types I have much liking for. I had a little sympathy for Mark this week though. I don't blame him for trying to find out who sent Olivia the text, but it was near impossible to do without him sounding like a douche accusing his boss and his best friend of trying to screw him (and/or his wife).

ANYWAY, the potentially-massively-interesting but-more-than-likely-not-thing. I watched the repeat of last week's episode (Playing Cards with Coyotes) on Saturday because, well, I had nothing better to do. My lack of social life aside, the date at the top of the newspaper Lloyd is reading in the hospital (the one with the "THE FUTURE CAN BE CHANGED" headline) was October 6 2009. That being the date of the flashforward, not whatever date it should have been.

I'm assuming it's more than likely an error, but it seems like an odd error to make in that they would have to specifically get the paper printed for the purpose of that episode. To pay enough attention to detail to have it printed with a date but then get that date wrong seems unlikely.

On the other hand, I can't think what it could possibly be a clue to, for time clearly has not stood still since the flashforward. It is, as they say, what it is.
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I watch these on Mondays and I usually wait for a topic to come up. I liked this episode with the character drama. It's a TV show, it's allowed to devote episodes to building the characters up so we actually care about them. Bryce and the Asian girl was really interesting and well acted. I'm digging this show, and the big mystery now is WHO SENT THE TEXT!?! Probably one of the bad guys trying to mess with her mind. Don't forget there were people in his flash forward.


    ANYWAY, the potentially-massivel​y-interesting but-more-than-likely-not-thing. I watched the repeat of last week's episode (Playing Cards with Coyotes) on Saturday because, well, I had nothing better to do. My lack of social life aside, the date at the top of the newspaper Lloyd is reading in the hospital (the one with the "THE FUTURE CAN BE CHANGED" headline) was October 6 2009. That being the date of the flashforward, not whatever date it should have been.

    I'm assuming it's more than likely an error, but it seems like an odd error to make in that they would have to specifically get the paper printed for the purpose of that episode. To pay enough attention to detail to have it printed with a date but then get that date wrong seems unlikely.


I'm guessing that's the date after he committed suicide. Newspapers usually put the date it's printed on top of the paper, I'd assume.

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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.64
    Originally posted by Psycho Penguin
    I watch these on Mondays and I usually wait for a topic to come up. I liked this episode with the character drama. It's a TV show, it's allowed to devote episodes to building the characters up so we actually care about them.
Oh, totally. I didn't hate it or anything, it was just pretty uneventful compared to previous weeks was all.

Bryce being ill helps explain his almost religious conversion since the blackout so it did a nice job developing his character and introducing Keiko.


    I'm guessing that's the date after he committed suicide. Newspapers usually put the date it's printed on top of the paper, I'd assume.

I don't follow.

Newspapers print the date of issue at the top.
The whole show started on October 6 2009, the day of the global blackout (the date of the actual blackout, NOT what the date they flashforward to).
Al killed himself several days *after* the blackout, because of what he saw during it.
October 6 2009 was also the date on the newspaper carrying a headline stemming from Al's death.

Al spent some time investigating the events of October 6 and killed himself because of what he saw on that day. The newspaper about his death couldn't possibly have been printed or issued or anything on October 6.

Hence I'm confused and/or intrigued!
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Ah ok, for some reason I thought it occurred in May. Interesting then, may be an error like the war scenes from 'Afganishtan' looking like they took place in California.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.43
    Originally posted by dMr
    ANYWAY, the potentially-massivel​y-interesting but-more-than-likely-not-thing. I watched the repeat of last week's episode (Playing Cards with Coyotes) on Saturday because, well, I had nothing better to do. My lack of social life aside, the date at the top of the newspaper Lloyd is reading in the hospital (the one with the "THE FUTURE CAN BE CHANGED" headline) was October 6 2009. That being the date of the flashforward, not whatever date it should have been.
Not. ;-)

Was confirmed by a Power That Be that it was a continuity error.
http://forum.redpandaresources.com/showthread.php?t=118125

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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.44
Outside of Mark's quest to piss off everyone important to him, this episode was relatively bland, but in a good way. I didn't mind a week breather to learn about cheery, cancer-ridden Bryce. My only nitpick is Bryce's activities on the morning of the blackout. It looks like he went to the pier for sunrise, went to therapy, and then went back to the pier four hours later to kill himself, which sorta meshes with how it looked in the premiere, although I think that what they are poorly trying to relate is that he only went to the pier once.

I liked the minor swerve of Bryce's restaurant being in LA.

I also liked Olivia using Bryce's flashforward to convince him to get treatment.

Doesn't Mark have the clout to know that if Weddick and Aaron didn't text his wife, than someone else saw him drinking in their flash, which would put them high up his list of people to investigate. Couldn't he use that to subpoena the phone records and begin tracking down who texted Olivia?



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.05
News coming out that production has been halted on FF to "boost the writing".

Hope this isn't a sign of anything worse.
dMr
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.64
Argh, I was so proud of me for noticing something like that as well. I'm usually mince at noticing clues/predicting stuff in these kinda shows. Still am as it turns out!

On the bright side, I'm not sure it could've gone anywhere good if it was still October 6 somehow.

Stopping production is mildly worrying, but hopefully it's just a short-term thing like they say and not a portent of doom. I can see how the first couple of episodes would've lost them a lot of viewers, but it's been consistently good since then IMO. One of the few (non-sport) things on TV I make a point of watching every week.
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Before I heard their explanation, I thought it was just a reference to the character from Fiddler on the Roof.
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