And, if I'm not mistaken, the win over Flair was a return match from the month before at SummerSlam, where Jericho became the only guy I can remember to lose clean to Flair's figure four since Flair came back. Add to that the fact that Flair's loss was used as a plot device to turn him heel and make him Hunter's yes-man.
Somewhere in that losing streak didn't HHH also beat Jericho in a Hell in a Cell match, just to prove that WMX8 wasn't a fluke?
Now I've never been one to believe too strongly in conspiracies, but I can't think of too many occasions over the years where HHH has gone out of his way to make Jericho look good. Then again, you could say the same thing about HHH and anyone not named Rock or Undertaker, so who's to say that there's a specific dislike for Y2J?
In a six man tag, which no one remembers save the people who want to act like it invalidated everything. And how many people remember that it was a fast count? Judging by the amount of people clamoring for WWE to show the footage of that match before X-8 to dispute HHH's claim that Jericho hadn't beaten him before, not very many.
But that's just an example no one can explain; there's plenty of things that invalidate the other points. "Jericho can't work, was pinned by Chyna". He also pinned Chyna, winning the intercontinental title barely four months after starting with the company. This being a time when WWE had 35 lesser belts they could have put on Jericho, and naturally they didn't have to put a belt on him at all, it's not quite a concrete example that forces were at work against him as he came in.
Neither is his failure to get put into the top tier during his feud with HHH in 2000. Jericho, Benoit, and Angle were all in the same position that summer. Certainly it would have been nice if they all could have been seemlessly added to the existing crop of main event talent, but Angle was the one who got pushed up. Benoit never beat the Rock, he didn't get to stay in main events after he was done wrestling Rock. Why are those exact same circumstances sinister in Jericho's case?
Etc etc etc, I tend to doubt anything will be solved here. You can certainly make a case against him, but when it can all be poked at, a concrete occurance it is not.
"I tend to doubt anything will be solved here. You can certainly make a case against him, but when it can all be poked at, a concrete occurance it is not."
What's more, if one was really desperate to prove that, say, Rikishi has been holding down A-Train for the last 4 years, he could probably find random evidence that "shows" it. But come on everybody, I would never steer you wrong.
I guess you've got a point, but when I see Socko I just think "Mick Foley," not what company he was working for when he used it. Life's too short to compartmentalize which of a wrestler's gimmicks I'm gonna cheer and boo.