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And here they are according to ESPN.com

15. Tampa Bay
14. Kansas City
13. Cincinnati
12. Phoenix
11. Washington, D.C.
10. Houston
9. San Diego
8. Atlanta
7. Seattle
6. Minneapolis
5. Boston
4. Chicago
3. Buffalo
2. Philadelphia
1. Cleveland

Gotta agree with # 1 and #2, Boston at 5 is kind of wrong IMO since they just got 2 of the last 3 super bowl wins.



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It is my fervert prayer that Marvin Lewis and Co. makes Cincy disappear from the next iteration of that list.

As for Boston, until the Red Sox win a championship there's a sort of funk that even the Patriots can't completely wipe away.



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Where the heck is Milwaukee on this list? They lost the Braves in 1965, something a lot of old timers are still bitter about. The Bucks came about in 1968, and have been the NBA Finals twice, winning once. The last time they've been there, however, was in 1974. The Brewers moved there in 1970, and have been to the World Series once, losing in 1982. They've had 11 straight losing seasons, although this year's team actually has a chance to end that streak. How are they less tortured than Tampa Bay, who've had two World Champions in the past two years?
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.25
    Originally posted by HairRaiser
    As for Boston, until the Red Sox win a championship there's a sort of funk that even the Patriots can't completely wipe away.


Boy are you right. They chant Yankees suck at patriot games and even during the superbowl celebration.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.74
The Red Sox secretly love losing. They love feeling sorry for themselves. No Bostonian will ever admit it, but it is true. Hey, I'm no Yankee fan, but at least they win.

Any city that loves to be tortured like that, doesn't deserve to be on the list, especially(as mentioned before) the Patriots have won 2/3.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.27
    Originally posted by Vgmastr
    Where the heck is Milwaukee on this list? They lost the Braves in 1965, something a lot of old timers are still bitter about. The Bucks came about in 1968, and have been the NBA Finals twice, winning once. The last time they've been there, however, was in 1974. The Brewers moved there in 1970, and have been to the World Series once, losing in 1982. They've had 11 straight losing seasons, although this year's team actually has a chance to end that streak. How are they less tortured than Tampa Bay, who've had two World Champions in the past two years?


Depends what you see as tortured. I'd say continually getting close to winning 'the big one' and screwing up in ever more unlikely and innovative fashion (see Red Sox, Boston and Eagles, Philadelphia) is more painful than just flat out sucking (a la Cardinals and Brewers).

I certainly know that I felt worse at the end of the last 3 football seasons than I did even when Rodney Peete was guiding us to job boy status in the NFC East.

Quite how Chicago can be at #4 under any description of torture is beyond me though given that they got years of Jordan in his prime. No amount of Cubby pain offsets Mike to that extent.



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Why Chicago is in the list? Because outside of the Bulls, here's our titles in the last 40 years:
Bears: 1985

That's it. And our teams haven't just not won, they have lost in truly monumental ways. The NHL team is so bad it gets outdrawn some days by the local AHL team. Da Bears have generally been the model of futility. And I think our baseball teams speak for themselves on this one. Oh yeah, add in the lack of anything useful from the college scene, and we're pretty much set in that spot.



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Only reason I can think of for excluding Milwaukee would be the Packers. Green Bay isn't exactly down the street from Milwaukee (about 100 miles)... but that's the ONLY reason I can come up with.



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Well, Milwaukee did lose the Packers...kind of. The Pack stopped playing 3 out of their 8 home games at (the late) Milwaukee County Stadium after the 1994 season, and moved everything to Lambeau Field.

Packer season-ticket holders at County Stadium were given the second and sixth (I think) home games at Lambeau. The rest are a Green Bay crowd.

So now they have to drive 2 hours 3 times a year instead of having the Pack in town...but County Stadium sucked for football anyway. Lambeau Field? A shrine to the game.



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Oh, besides the fact that the Bulls won six championships and enshrined themselves as a modern dynasty, the only other championship Chicago's won in the last four years was the Bears' Super Bowl win in 1985?

Well boo-freakin'-hoo. You don't expect me to feel sorry for Chicago from a sports perspective, do you?

I'm not saying Indianapolis should have been #1 on the list, but why aren't we in the top 15? Other than San Diego and Buffalo, every other city on this list has had a team win at least one championship.

[Raven voice] What about us? What about Indy? What about the fact that the Colts (along with, granted, the Buccaneers) were the punchline to every NFL joke ever created for years, until they only recently became legitimate? What about the fact that year after year, the Pacers come so-damn-close to the NBA Championship, only to never quite take that step? But that was only after '94, mind you... before that, the Pacers were a punchline ever since the ABA merger.

Surely that warrants some consideration, I'd think. Although I'm not gonna lobby too hard for it, really, because it is kind of a dubious honor.

But sheesh, two cities that have a combined 22 NBA Championships make #4 and #5 on the list? Screw that.

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Actually, I agree Indy should be there.

I think when it comes to Boston and particularly Chicago it's a case of looking at the BIG picture. Indy gets let down over the course of 20 years by 2 teams. Chicago is basically being let down for a century by 4 reguarly futile teams, and save for that one stretch for almost half a century by the other regularly futile team. So while we have had more glory, we also have had to sit through that much more embarassment and failure.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.75
    Originally posted by Doc_whiskey
    1. Cleveland


And so it was, is, and shall be forevermore.

Sigh.

Time to get psyched up for another season of *gulp* Brownies football. Preseason's gotta be starting soon, right?

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    Originally posted by ShotGunShep
    The Red Sox secretly love losing. They love feeling sorry for themselves. No Bostonian will ever admit it, but it is true. Hey, I'm no Yankee fan, but at least they win.

    Any city that loves to be tortured like that, doesn't deserve to be on the list, especially(as mentioned before) the Patriots have won 2/3.


OK, I'm calling Bullshit on that one. Myself, and no other Red Sox fan I know ever said "Thank God Aaron Boone hit that HR. I don't know what I would've done if the Sox actually went to the World Series and won it."

The "Sox fans love to be miserable" is the biggest myth going. IMO, I think it's the rest of the non-Red Sox/non- Boston sports fans around the country that love to see us be miserable. And when the Red Sox win it all, I think it will be everyone else that won't be able to handle it. Red Sox fans will be just fine.




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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.82

I don't really see the Tampa Bay on there, unless they're going for the Bucs of yesterday. They've collected 2 major championships (the Super Bowl & the Stanley Cup) in the past two years.




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Seattle should have been top 5. EASILY. 2nd longest championship drought of cities with 3 major franchises? 1 Finals appearance for their teams in that time period? 1994 vs. the Nuggets? 2001 vs. the Yankees? Last year vs. the Packers? Come ON.



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