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Brian
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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.68
Since I'm probably the only one here that watched the PPV I figure what the hey I'll put up some thoughts. A couple lemons aside (TV & Tag Title matches) I thought on paper this was one of TNA’s better line ups in a long time and was interested in the Storm & Roode matches so I ended up catching the show. There were some good matches, but quite a few bad ones, and quite a bit of bad booking and the worst wrestling crowd ever that wouldn't react and hurt some really good matches. Overall, I say it was an underwhelming PPV.
I hope that RVD vs. Daniels match was the end of that feud. Those two don’t seem to click, especially since when this started, I thought they’d work well together, and it’ll be hard to come back for another match with RVD winning again.
The TV Title was your standard Young comedy match which I’ve grown incredibly tired of. This is another feud I wish would end.
The tag title match was awful. It’s matches like that which make me annoyed when guys like Morgan & Crimson get spots on PPVs while many far more talented guys sit at home. Both guys are quite bad. I don’t know which is a worse idea, having Morgan & Crimson feud or team up. If you’re going to put them in the tag division, pair them up with someone who can work a match. The tag division is in a tough spot. Sadly it looks like the awful Pope/Devon storyline continues. Make that feud #3 I wish would end.
Things kind of turned around with the X match. The match was good, but like nearly every other recent X match, wasn’t at the level X matches should be at and I’m growing bored of the division. I hope this week they start a program that’s not Aries vs. some combination of Kendrick, Kash & Sorensen. I found it funny when Tenay went on about the reemphasis on the division when only 4 guys make TV, the division wasn’t on 2 of the last 4 Impacts and only got ~5 minutes on the 2 shows it was on.
Mickie/Gail was better than most recent Knockouts matches, but it still wasn’t memorable which isn’t good since that’s probably the best match they can currently put together with that roster.
Angle/Storm was really good. I’m glad they didn’t do anything in there that derailed Storm since he may currently be the best act in the company.
Hardy/Jarrett was better than I expected. It was still overbooked, but the action was mostly fine and it wasn’t as big of a mess as I expected with Hardy’s back and the 15 stips.
The main event was really good despite the crowd and finish. I hate PPV main events ending without resolution I can't believe they didn't just put Roode over.
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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.84
I'll get called a bleeding heart/biased asshole for this I'm sure, but at a time when a WWE story can't seem to pass by without at least one joke about their wellness policy it drives me nuts to see a TNA card with the three top matches featuring injured/broken-down/pill-popping competitors among the participants. Jeff Hardy not only has a chemical dependency problem, he's also working hurt. And yet he's in there doing a swanton off of a cage. And Kurt Angle shouldn't even be in a wrestling ring at this point. He's Leper In The Backfield.

I mean I'm sure it fills people with joy to see Kurt rushing back to working twenty-minute all-out matches or to see Jeff doing stupid spots for no reason again. It's just...maybe places like the Observer and PWInsider should think about this shit before taking a snarky poke at Mason Ryan or Sin Cara's suspension if they're just gonna ignore the fact that TNA is booking these guys into early graves.
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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.42
I thought the first three matches were pretty damn bad espicially the tv title and tag tite matches. RVD is just a waste of space and money and TNA needs to let him go whenever his contract is up. The X division match was pretty good, but hurt by the fact that neither guy played a face in the fmatch and even in a different venue the crowd probably wouldn't have been into the action. The Knockouts match was pretty good with the expected interference. Angle-Storm was really good, but you'd expect more of a brawl than a technacal match that we got. storm going over clean was the right move and they're doing a great job with him. Styles-Roode was really good but the non finish was really bas. They already gave AJ an out with the knwee injury. I'm guessing we'll get Styles-Roode on Impact or AJ will be added to the Roode-Hardy match because Hardy's banged up and so Styles will do the heavy lifting and eat the pin in the triple threat match.
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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.83
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    I'll get called a bleeding heart/biased asshole for this I'm sure, but at a time when a WWE story can't seem to pass by without at least one joke about their wellness policy it drives me nuts to see a TNA card with the three top matches featuring injured/broken-down/pill-popping competitors among the participants. Jeff Hardy not only has a chemical dependency problem, he's also working hurt. And yet he's in there doing a swanton off of a cage. And Kurt Angle shouldn't even be in a wrestling ring at this point. He's Leper In The Backfield.

    I mean I'm sure it fills people with joy to see Kurt rushing back to working twenty-minute all-out matches or to see Jeff doing stupid spots for no reason again. It's just...maybe places like the Observer and PWInsider should think about this shit before taking a snarky poke at Mason Ryan or Sin Cara's suspension if they're just gonna ignore the fact that TNA is booking these guys into early graves.


No recriminations from me, I agree with you. But looking at the circumstances behind Hardy's and Angle's departure from the WWE, no one should be shocked at TNA's treatment of the two.
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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.84
It's not really TNA I'm aiming at. TNA is what it is at this point; expecting them to even pay lip service to the notion of taking care of its employees is a pipedream at this point. It's the online pundits and wrestling press who waste no opportunity to lambaste Vince McMahon for his policy's problems whilst ignoring the fact that, on a day-to-day basis, TNA is running shows featuring guys who should've been in rehab yesterday.

Look at the fuss about Evan Bourne's suspension, and all the holes poked in the wellness policy by writers afterwards. And yet the wrestling press are happy to talk about, pay for, review and even praise a company that is employing people with serious health issues and putting them in matches every day! It just feels like they're talking out of both sides of their mouths, and because Kurt Angle has four stars matches we probably shouldn't mention the fact that his upper body is terrifyingly atrophied and his legs are falling apart.

I don't know. I find it unpleasant to watch people with such obvious problems doing this stuff, and I find the online attitude towards it frustrating.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.27
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    Look at the fuss about Evan Bourne's suspension, and all the holes poked in the wellness policy by writers afterwards. And yet the wrestling press are happy to talk about, pay for, review and even praise a company that is employing people with serious health issues and putting them in matches every day! ... I find the online attitude towards it frustrating.


I don't think this is a dichotomy. WWE's drug program having a double standard and talent realizing that after suspecting it for a long time is a pretty important story. WWE PPVs are still talked about, paid for, reviewed, and even praised. TNA was obliterated over the Jeff Hardy/Sting thing as one of the worst, most clueless examples of leadership and decision-making in wrestling history. Angle's condition at Bound For Glory was a major story too.

WWE has always invited criticism by being self-congratulatory about something so brazenly superficial and logically suspect. And TNA has always invited criticism for being far more negligent and irresponsible than WWE on its worst day -- and I've never noticed any shortage of that criticism. Both companies deserve it and criticizing one isn't a reflexive endorsement of the other. I don't read PWinsider (Mike Johnson seems like a good reporter but Scherer has always struck me as a big weirdo creep), but TNA isn't very well-regarded at F4W or the Torch, even after the Bruce Prichard placebo. It's not a Goofus and Gallant situation, it's Goofus and Goofus -- corporate sleaze Goofus and low-rent negligent Goofus.

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.68
    Originally posted by Amos Cochran
    I'll get called a bleeding heart/biased asshole for this Iore the fact that TNA is booking these guys into early graves.
Well you are. Hardy was doing swantons off of ladders two years ago it was okay I guess because he wasn't a druggie right? lol. Not that I'm saying that he should be doing swantons off of cages either. Both the WWE and TNA have enabled the guy. Hardy was a drugged out mess in '04-05 in TNA and yet the WWE had no issue signing him or pushing him after he failed a drug test. He got a few title reigns. That's not to say that TNA should have hired him in 2010, but the WWE WAS dying to keep him in '09 and even was hoping he would come back to the WWE in time for Wrestlemania even after he was arrested. I saw you justly went off on TNA when Jarrett hit Hardy wityh a vicious chairshot months ago but not much of a peep from you when HHH of all people hit the Undertaker with a hellacous chair at WM26. As far as Angle don't think even TNA would allow him to go out there in the shape he was going in wm19 and take release german suplexes days before having neck surgery. Then again maybe they would. How bout Angle taking a chairshot from Lesner a month after returning from next surgery? Again Angle is another guy both WWE and TNA enabled. How bout HHH making jokes about Masters shape after he came off a steriod suspension on national tv? You know making a joke about a guy now being off steriods. One more thing on Hardy I'd bet the WWE would take him back tomorrow if his contract was up. Angle too I mean they took back Nash who offers nada. This is not me defending TNA as much as laughing at some of your comments in this thread espicially the the dirtsheets defend TNA and crap on WWE comments. One more thing while TNA needs a drug policy and everything lets not forget Vince did nothing for decades before he couldn't take anymore of all the wrestlers dying on him and did something. The policy is still far from full proof. Still better than what TNA does though. Anyway can we get back to discussing the pay per view last night?

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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.63
    Originally posted by Brian
    Anyway can we get back to discussing the pay per view last night?




Sure: Nothing happened on this show. Like really, nothing. The closest thing we got was revealing which Jarrett will be fired and, of course, we have to wait 'til Thursday to find that out. The main event ended the PPV with a thud. Every other match was completely forgettable.



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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.39
    Originally posted by Brian
    Anyway can we get back to discussing the pay per view last night?
Even you admitted back in post #1 that nobody watched it.

Amos, you either spend too much or too little time on wrestling news sites. I can't figure out which it is, though.



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