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|  #1 Posted on 5.12.10 2130.12 | Instant Rating: 8.37 | FINAL STANDINGS BCS Prev Harris Int. USA Today Computer Rankings
BCS Standings through 12/5 Avg Week Rank Pts % Rank Pts % Avg 1 2 3 4 5 6 %
1. Auburn (13-0) .9866 1 1 2809 .9856 2 1437 .9742 1 1 1 1 1 1 11.000
2. Oregon (12-0) .9720 2 2 2773 .9730 1 1450 .9831 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 .960
3. TCU (12-0) .9102 3 3 2613 .9168 3 1348 .9139 3 3 3 4 4 7 3 .900
4. Stanford (11-1) .8365 4 5 2421 .8495 5 1239 .8400 5 8 7 5 5 4 5 .820
5. Wisconsin (11-1) .8041 5 4 2443 .8572 4 1276 .8651 8 5 4 12 10 12 8 .690
6. Ohio State (11-1) .7660 6 6 2293 .8046 6 1200 .8136 9 6 6 7 13 16 10 .680
7. Oklahoma (11-2) .7297 9 9 1926 .6758 8 1008 .6834 4 4 11 3 6 5 6 .830
8. Arkansas (10-2) .7274 7 8 1992 .6989 8 1008 .6834 6 9 8 11 3 3 4 .800
9. Michigan State (11-1) .6922 8 7 2104 .7382 7 1104 .7485 11 7 12 8 15 14 11 .590
10. LSU (10-2) .6167 10 11 1625 .5702 12 826 .5600 7 11 9 9 7 6 7 .720
11. Boise State (11-1) .6104 11 10 1800 .6316 10 914 .6197 12 13 5 10 14 15 9 .580
12. Missouri (10-2) .5276 12 13 1368 .4800 14 712 .4827 10 10 18 6 11 9 12 .620
13. Virginia Tech (11-2) .5032 15 12 1623 .5695 11 900 .6102 18 18 16 16 21 20 17 .330
14. Oklahoma State (10-2) .4897 14 15 1232 .4323 13 718 .4868 13 12 13 13 9 11 15 .550
15. Nevada (12-1) .4336 17 14 1302 .4568 15 640 .4339 16 17 14 15 17 18 14 .410
16. Alabama (9-3) .4328 16 16 1155 .4053 18 521 .3532 14 15 10 17 12 8 13 .540
17. Texas A&M (9-3) .4151 18 18 1077 .3779 17 542 .3675 15 14 19 14 8 10 16 .500
18. Nebraska (10-3) .3934 13 17 1136 .3986 16 607 .4115 17 16 17 18 16 13 18 .370
19. Utah (10-2) .2549 20 19 685 .2404 19 375 .2542 19 20 15 19 19 21 19 .270
20. South Carolina (9-4) .2418 19 20 631 .2214 20 345 .2339 19 19 20 20 18 17 20 .270
21. Mississippi State (8-4).1828 22 22 500 .1754 22 255 .1729 21 22 21 25 20 19 21 .200
22. West Virginia (9-3) .1330 24 21 519 .1821 21 261 .1769 24 24 -- 23 -- -- 24 .040
23. Florida State (9-4) .1140 21 23 274 .0961 23 156 .1058 22 21 22 21 24 24 23 .140
24. Hawaii (10-3) .0778 NR 24 191 .0670 25 98 .0664 23 23 24 22 25 -- 22 .100
25. Central Florida (10-3).0545 NR 25 190 .0667 24 143 .0969 28 -- -- -- -- -- -- .000
1 Anderson & Hester
2 Billingsley
3 Colley Matrix
4 Masset
5 Sagarin
6 Wolfe
Bowl schedule is over here. (sports.espn.go.com)
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|  #2 Posted on 5.12.10 2135.37 | Instant Rating: 5.57 | | Geez, Oklahoma's gonna win by at least 30 points. | TheBucsFan
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| #3 Posted on 5.12.10 2219.55 | Instant Rating: 2.59 | Originally posted by Big Bad
Geez, Oklahoma's gonna win by at least 30 points.
Yeah, just like the last time they played a big underdog Big East champion in the Fiesta Bowl. Oh, wait, they lost by 20 points in that game.
Well then certainly it would be like earlier this year, when they played Cincinnati, a team that went 4-8 playing in the Big East. Oh wait, Oklahoma won by two in a game that went down to the wire.
Oklahoma will very, very likely win the game, and they might even win by a lot. They'll almost certainly win. But UConn could pull it off. It's pretty hilarious how everyone just acts over and over again like the Big East teams haven't been in this situation before and won. And Oklahoma ain't that good, sorry to break it to everyone.
EDIT: And in case you want to respond by saying UConn will be a bigger underdog than West Virginia was in the 2008 Fiesta Bowl (Oklahoma was favored by eight going into that game, I've gotta think UConn will be given two touchdowns at least), I'll point to West Virginia in the 2006 Sugar Bowl against SEC champion Georgia. I think the Bulldogs were 16-point favorites in that game, and West Virginia won in what was basically a home game for Georgia because the Sugar Bowl was held in Atlanta that year.
(edited by TheBucsFan on 5.12.10 2332)
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| #4 Posted on 5.12.10 2242.25 | Instant Rating: 6.43 | Originally posted by TheBucsFan
Originally posted by Big Bad
Geez, Oklahoma's gonna win by at least 30 points.
Yeah, just like the last time they played a big underdog Big East champion in the Fiesta Bowl. Oh, wait, they lost by 20 points in that game.
Well then certainly it would be like earlier this year, when they played Cincinnati, a team that went 4-8 playing in the Big East. Oh wait, Oklahoma won by two in a game that went down to the wire.
Oklahoma will very, very likely win the game, and they might even win by a lot. They'll almost certainly win. But UConn could pull it off. It's pretty hilarious how everyone just acts over and over again like the Big East teams haven't been in this situation before and won. And Oklahoma ain't that good, sorry to break it to everyone.
EDIT: And in case you want to respond by saying UConn will be a bigger underdog than West Virginia was in the 2008 Fiesta Bowl (Oklahoma was favored by eight going into that game, I've gotta think UConn will be given two touchdowns at least), I'll point to West Virginia in the 2006 Sugar Bowl against SEC champion Georgia. I think the Bulldogs were 16-point favorites in that game, and West Virginia won in what was basically a home game for Georgia because the Sugar Bowl was held in Atlanta that year.
(edited by TheBucsFan on 5.12.10 2332)
First of all, whoever decided UGA should have been favored that heavily against WVU just because it was practically a home game was smoking some good stuff. WVU was a really good team that year. They both were. That ain't the case here.
I hate Oklahoma more than the average person, and I actually like UConn more than the average person too, but c'mon now. Do you really think they have a shot in this game? Beyond saying, "Hey, the game hasn't been played yet, so theoretically they could win," it's really hard to make a case for UConn. A decent run offense hasn't made up for their garbage pass offense this year. And this year's Oklahoma team hasn't been the powerhouse of old, but they'll probably still drop 40 on UConn.
I know you feel you've gotta rep your conference and all (which is probably hard on this board since it appears you're the only Big East fan left!) but let's be reasonable. This reeks of Bill Plaschke-level homerism.
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| #5 Posted on 5.12.10 2255.46 | Instant Rating: 2.59 | Originally posted by StingArmy
Originally posted by TheBucsFan
Originally posted by Big Bad
Geez, Oklahoma's gonna win by at least 30 points.
Yeah, just like the last time they played a big underdog Big East champion in the Fiesta Bowl. Oh, wait, they lost by 20 points in that game.
Well then certainly it would be like earlier this year, when they played Cincinnati, a team that went 4-8 playing in the Big East. Oh wait, Oklahoma won by two in a game that went down to the wire.
Oklahoma will very, very likely win the game, and they might even win by a lot. They'll almost certainly win. But UConn could pull it off. It's pretty hilarious how everyone just acts over and over again like the Big East teams haven't been in this situation before and won. And Oklahoma ain't that good, sorry to break it to everyone.
EDIT: And in case you want to respond by saying UConn will be a bigger underdog than West Virginia was in the 2008 Fiesta Bowl (Oklahoma was favored by eight going into that game, I've gotta think UConn will be given two touchdowns at least), I'll point to West Virginia in the 2006 Sugar Bowl against SEC champion Georgia. I think the Bulldogs were 16-point favorites in that game, and West Virginia won in what was basically a home game for Georgia because the Sugar Bowl was held in Atlanta that year.
(edited by TheBucsFan on 5.12.10 2332)
First of all, whoever decided UGA should have been favored that heavily against WVU just because it was practically a home game was smoking some good stuff. WVU was a really good team that year.
It's easy to say that in hindsight, but that is definitely not what the attitude was at the time. Pat White came on in the middle of the season and hadn't really played against any tough competition, so nobody really knew what to expect from him. Steve Slaton was a freshman. UConn has the nation's second-most prolific running back this season in a guy named Jordan Todman. Why can't the Huskies pull off the upset?
Do you really think they have a shot in this game? Beyond saying, "Hey, the game hasn't been played yet, so theoretically they could win," it's really hard to make a case for UConn. A decent run offense hasn't made up for their garbage pass offense this year. And this year's Oklahoma team hasn't been the powerhouse of old, but they'll probably still drop 40 on UConn.
I think UConn is much better than Cincinnati. And Oklahoma beat Cincinnati by two.
Yes, I think UConn has a shot. If I had to make a prediction, I'd say Oklahoma by about a touchdown.
I know you feel you've gotta rep your conference and all (which is probably hard on this board since it appears you're the only Big East fan left!) but let's be reasonable. This reeks of Bill Plaschke-level homerism.
I think the homerism is to completely write off a team because of the conference they are from. West Virginia had one fewer loss - and a loss to UConn! - and has looked equally anemic on offense this year, but people would be willing to believe they have a shot and UConn doesn't. It doesn't make any sense.
The ACC has won one BCS game in the past decade. The Big East won three straight after the ACC raid, but then lost the last two. Why isn't everyone on the ACC's nuts about it? Because it's easy to rag on the Big East, whether facts support it or not, that's why.
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| #6 Posted on 5.12.10 2311.36 | Instant Rating: 6.43 | Originally posted by TheBucsFan
The ACC has won one BCS game in the past decade. The Big East won three straight after the ACC raid, but then lost the last two. Why isn't everyone on the ACC's nuts about it? Because it's easy to rag on the Big East, whether facts support it or not, that's why.
I'll respond to this only to say that I think everyone gives the Big East a harder time than the ACC due to the larger number of non-traditional powers in the Big East. Let's face it: most people pay attention to their home conference and whoever is in the top 10. Other than the SEC (who we're supposed to assume is better than God at football) and a few traditional powers sprinkled around the country, everyone else is just a no name. When it comes to the Big East, there just aren't that many teams that the casual observer would place much confidence in. I think that's been doubly the case this year, when there just haven't been any good teams in the Big East at all.
As for the ACC, either the last few years' relative mediocrity is finally catching up to them or this year's super duper sucky-ness is causing some very vocal backlash from around the country, because I haven't heard any conference trashed this year as much as I've heard the ACC trashed. Not even the Big East. It was obvious watching the polls and the talking heads each week that everyone assumed Virginia Tech was the class of the conference and every other team should be relegated to the FCS or even Div II (yes, I know VT's representing the ACC in the Orange Bowl, but I wouldn't call them the "class" of anything this year; slightly above average at best). So I wouldn't quite say no one is on the ACC's nuts. If nothing else, just give it 'til the end of bowl season. =)
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| #7 Posted on 6.12.10 0811.35 | Instant Rating: 3.08 | I notice plenty of people knocking the ACC. I also notice Big East fans spend more time whining about their conference perception than do ACC fans, so maybe that's why they get made fun of more. Maybe that's just my view, could be wrong. I know the ACC stinks. Has for a while now. Oh well.
I'm not sure how much longer Big East fans are going to drag out the Georgia/WV game in every arguement. Probably as long as Boise fans will bring up OU. Not sure how it's relevant this year.
Last, do facts not support ragging on the Big East this year? Really? They've had a terrible year, I don't see how there is any question about that.
Again, so has the ACC. Both conferences are likely to see their champs stomped in bowl games, and won't that be fun. But what exactly is your point here? "Hey, the ACC sucks too!" Indeed. Who's arguing against that? | lotjx
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| #8 Posted on 6.12.10 0822.44 | Instant Rating: 1.62 | | The lesser bowl games of Florida/PSU, ND/Miami and Alabama/Michigan State are far more appealing then the BCS games. OU is a no win situation if they win, its nothing if they lose its huge. Its not that can UConn play with these guys, the question is will anyone care. These automatic qualifiers need to be in the BCS top 25 or it goes to the next top BCS team. Oregon will either win in a shoot out or Cam will go up and down the field. | wmatistic
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| #9 Posted on 6.12.10 1620.51 | Instant Rating: 3.08 | http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/could-bcs-data-be-wrong-yet-go-unchecked-yes-29310
An error in Coley's rankings means he should have had Boise ahead of LSU. I don't think it would have put them ahead of LSU in the overall standings, but I'm not sure. | CRZ
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| #10 Posted on 6.12.10 1639.38 | Instant Rating: 8.38 | Someone else check my math...
Before
10. LSU (10-2) .6167 10 11 1625 .5702 12 826 .5600 7 11 9 9 7 6 7 .720
11. Boise State (11-1) .6104 11 10 1800 .6316 10 914 .6197 12 13 5 10 14 15 9 .580
After
10. Boise State (11-1) .6137 11 10 1800 .6316 10 914 .6197 12 13 5 9 14 15 9 .590
11. LSU (10-2) .6134 10 11 1625 .5702 12 826 .5600 7 11 9 10 7 6 7 .710
EDIT: Looks like the original story is over here (cbssports.com) and it confirms there'd be a swap with different numbers.
(edited by CRZ on 6.12.10 1642)
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