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Isn't it pretty? Mostly stolen from http://soccernet.espn.go.com/worldcup/wallchart?cc=5901 - sorry it breaks the tables but I'm too lazy to fix it any more than I already have...

Group Matches
Group A
Germany
Ecuador
Costa Rica
Poland
MATCHES
4GERvCRC209-Jun
0POLvECU209-Jun
GERvPOL14-Jun
CRCvECU15-Jun
CRCvPOL20-Jun
GERvECU20-Jun
Group B
England
Sweden
Paraguay
Trinidad & Tobago
MATCHES
1ENGvPAR010-Jun
0TRIvSWE010-Jun
ENGvTRI15-Jun
PARvSWE15-Jun
ENGvSWE20-Jun
PARvTRI20-Jun
Group C
Argentina
Netherlands
Cte d'Ivorie
Serbia & Montenegro
MATCHES
2ARGvCIV110-Jun
0SCGvNED111-Jun
ARGvSCG16-Jun
CIVvNED16-Jun
ARGvNED21-Jun
CIVvSCG21-Jun
Group D
Mexico
Angola
Portugal
Iran
MATCHES
3MEXvIRN111-Jun
0ANGvPOR111-Jun
MEXvANG16-Jun
IRNvPOR17-Jun
IRNvANG21-Jun
MEXvPOR21-Jun
Group E
Czech Republic
Italy
Ghana
United States
MATCHES
2ITAvGHA012-Jun
0USAvCZE312-Jun
ITAvUSA17-Jun
GHAvCZE17-Jun
GHAvUSA22-Jun
ITAvCZE22-Jun
Group F
Australia
Brazil
Croatia
Japan
MATCHES
3AUSvJPN112-Jun
1BRAvCRO013-Jun
BRAvAUS18-Jun
CROvJPN18-Jun
BRAvJPN22-Jun
CROvAUS22-Jun
Group G
Republic of Korea
France
Switzerland
Togo
MATCHES
0FRAvSUI013-Jun
2KORvTOG113-Jun
FRAvKOR18-Jun
SUIvTOG19-Jun
FRAvTOG23-Jun
SUIvKOR23-Jun
Group H
Spain
Saudi Arabia
Tunisia
Ukraine
MATCHES
4ESPvUKR014-Jun
2TUNvKSA214-Jun
ESPvTUN19-Jun
UKRvKSA19-Jun
ESPvKSA23-Jun
UKRvTUN23-Jun

Knockout Stage
Round of Sixteen
491Av2B24-Jun
501Cv2D24-Jun
511Bv2A25-Jun
521Dv2C25-Jun
531Ev2F26-Jun
541Gv2H26-Jun
551Fv2E27-Jun
561Hv2G27-Jun
Quarterfinals
57W49vW5030-Jun
58W53vW5430-Jun
59W51vW5201-Jul
60W55vW5601-Jul
Semifinals
61W57vW5804-Jul
62W59vW6005-Jul
Final
64W61vW6209-Jul
Third Place
63L61vL6208-Jul


(edited by CRZ on 9.12.05 1600)

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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.08
That was quite possibly the most boring then captivating couple of hours on TV I've seen.

The match I'm most looking forward to in the first round is Argentina vs. The Netherlands.

Group E seems to be the "Group of Death" as you have the Czech Republic, the United States of America, and Italy battling it out, all countries ranked in FIFA's top 12. As I cheer for whoever is playing Italy, I really hope the United States team can get through their whining and diving and make it through to the knockout round.
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Will Spain continue to underachieve? Doesn't look like there's much in Group H to stop them from reaching the knockout stage.



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That was quite possibly the most boring then captivating couple of hours on TV I've seen.

No kidding. It was excruciating for a long time, then absolutety riveting. I could either listen to the insipid analysis on ESPN2, which included two analysts asserting that the U.S. is a contender to win. I'm thinking/hoping they had a liquid lunch. My other option was watch it on Univision, which included a discussion of Brazil's World Cup success accompanied by scenes of gorgeous, scantily clad Brazilian women supporting their national team. Guess which option I chose...

As far as the draw, the U.S. got a tough draw, but at least we're not in Group C; I think that's the most brutal draw in the Cup. And, to be honest, the U.S. was the best team in their pool of teams (by a good bit), so I figured they'd end up in one of the hardest groups.



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So even if the US squeezes a second place out, they likely go up against Brazil in the second round. This...is not going to work out so well. They either have to win their group or get really lucky and hope for a Brazil stumble.



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Wow - England and Germany basically look to have pretty much a free pass to the Quarters. Count on England (and Spain) to blow it there though.

Predictions:

A1 - Germany
A2 - Poland
B1 - England
B2 - Sweden
C1 - Netherlands
C2 - Argentina
D1 - Portugal
D2 - Mexico
E1 - Czech Republic
E2 - USA (no, that's not the new way to spell "Italy")
F1 - Brazil
F2 - Japan
G1 - Korea
G2 - France
H1 - Spain
H2 - Ukraine

Round of 16:
Germany over Sweden
Netherlands over Mexico
England over Poland
Argentina over Portugal
Czech Republic over Japan
Korea over Ukraine
Brazil over USA
Spain over France

Quarters:
Netherlands over Germany
Czech Republic over Korea
Argentina over England
Brazil over Spain

Semis:
Czech Republic over Netherlands
Brazil over Argentina

Final:
Brazil over Czech Republic: 3-1.

Did I just have the Czech Republic make a run to the finals?




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As a half-Ukrainian living in a soccer wasteland, it'll be fun to actually have someone to cheer for during the World Cup. I think Ukraine looks like they have a really good shot to at least make the second round, and if they end up against Korea like MoeGates projected, well, I always thought the Koreans got a little lucky with the homefield advantage in the last Cup. Go Ukraine!



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.70
    Originally posted by Big Bad
    As a half-Ukrainian living in a soccer wasteland, it'll be fun to actually have someone to cheer for during the World Cup. I think Ukraine looks like they have a really good shot to at least make the second round, and if they end up against Korea like MoeGates projected, well, I always thought the Koreans got a little lucky with the homefield advantage in the last Cup. Go Ukraine!


Definitely a nice sentimental pick, and I have no doubt they'll be able to handle Korea.

I agree that the home field advantage was the only thing keeping that team going in 2002. I just wanted to note that host countries automatically qualify for the finals, since I'm unsure if you were implying they were lucky because they were the host team or that they qualified the year it was held in their country.




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The US draw isn't *that* bad in the first round. We should beat Ghana, and I could definately see at least winning one of two (or at worst a tie and a loss) against Italy and the Czech Republic. Italy din't fair too well in '02 if I recall. Of course that looming matchup with Brazil is where it gets ugly.

I'll go out on a "limb" and say Brazil edges Germany 2-1 in the final on a golden goal. But then, as much as I love watching the cup my knowledge of international (or domestic) soccer is almost nil.
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    Originally posted by BigSteve
    The US draw isn't *that* bad in the first round. We should beat Ghana, and I could definately see at least winning one of two (or at worst a tie and a loss) against Italy and the Czech Republic. Italy din't fair too well in '02 if I recall. Of course that looming matchup with Brazil is where it gets ugly.

    I'll go out on a "limb" and say Brazil edges Germany 2-1 in the final on a golden goal. But then, as much as I love watching the cup my knowledge of international (or domestic) soccer is almost nil.


Obviously, since there isn't a golden goal rule any longer.


But seriously, our draw SUCKED HARD, but I think we're good enough to overcome it. We didn't have a particularly favorable draw in 2002, either, if you remember, playing both supposed contender Portugal and the hosts South Korea, with Poland (the only team in the opening round to beat us) also a solid European representative. Only thing left to do now is wait and see.




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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.14
But then, as much as I love watching the cup my knowledge of international (or domestic) soccer is almost nil.

This is all you need to know about international soccer:

England and Spain always choke.

Never pick against Brazil.

(edited by MoeGates on 12.12.05 1733)


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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.61
    Originally posted by MoeGates

    Never pick against Brazil.



You can scratch that one this year though. They face the might of Australia, with the genius of Guus Hiddink to guide us.

Acutally, the number of people in this country who think Australia have a chance over Brazil, because we beat them in a 3rd/4th playoff in the 2001 Confederations Cup (?) is quite frightening. Masterful tactician coach or no, we simply don't have the football freaks that Brazil does.
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#13 Posted on
    Originally posted by The Goon
    That was quite possibly the most boring then captivating couple of hours on TV I've seen.

Thankfully over here the BBC decided to ignored all the 'show' beforehand and started their programme just 10 minutes before the first ball was drawn. I remember sitting through all that crap waiting for the 2002 WC draw and didn't want to do that again.

As for the draw itself England finally get a favourable draw - now go and watch us crash out at the first hurdle!
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
    Originally posted by Merc
      Originally posted by MoeGates

      Never pick against Brazil.



    You can scratch that one this year though. They face the might of Australia, with the genius of Guus Hiddink to guide us.

    Acutally, the number of people in this country who think Australia have a chance over Brazil, because we beat them in a 3rd/4th playoff in the 2001 Confederations Cup (?) is quite frightening. Masterful tactician coach or no, we simply don't have the football freaks that Brazil does.


It amazes me the number of fans who completely forget that Brazil tends to send youth teams to any international tournament that isn't the World Cup. It's this exact reason why Mexico beating us in Olympic qualifying didn't mean a damn thing.




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But there MUST be one world cup where Brazil chokes and does not make the finals, right? (Actually I am sure this has happened in the past 2-3 championships but it should happen again this time)

The German team has been called weak a lot of times in the past three years, but this is in their home country and they are the Germans. I am sure they will get far.

For once, The Netherlands is claiming to not be going far. A hard group added to that feeling. 'We' have a youthful team of guys that want to fight for things and coach Marco van Basten has explained that this is a building stage.
So I predict they go deeper than usual, since the players seem more like a team than ever and are willing to fight for it.

Brazil-Netherlands in the finals, with Brazil winning 3-1. ;)



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    Originally posted by dMp
    But there MUST be one world cup where Brazil chokes and does not make the finals, right? (Actually I am sure this has happened in the past 2-3 championships but it should happen again this time

Last non-Brazil final was 1990, West Germany 1-0 over Argentina. That was the end of West Germany's time, in which by 1990 they had made 5 of the last 7 finals, going 2-3 in them.

edit: to JJD: I rule. ;)

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    Originally posted by dMp
    But there MUST be one world cup where Brazil chokes and does not make the finals, right? (Actually I am sure this has happened in the past 2-3 championships but it should happen again this time)


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2002 - Brazil 2, Germany 0
1998 - France 3, Brazil 0
1994 - Brazil 0, Italy 0 - Brazil wins 3-2 on penalty kicks

In 1990, Brazil lost to eventual finalist Argentina on the round of sixteen.

EDIT: Damn you, spf...DAMN...YOU!

(edited by JayJayDean on 14.12.05 1323)


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#18 Posted on
Brazil and Germany pretty much do rule whenever the World Cup comes round not matter how bad their form may or may not have been in the lead up to the tournament.

I remember one commentator saying that there has been only one post-WW2 World Cup final in which one of those two teams was not involved (1978 Argentina v Holland I believe). Just goes to show their dominance over the years.

(edited by Canard on 14.12.05 2354)
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.08
Man that is a tough group for the Americans.

England vs Sweden is a match up I am really looking forward to watching. Poland vs Germany should be very interesting. There are a lot of Polish players playing in Germany, and I imagine there will be a decent amount of Polish fans in attendance.
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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by Deputy Marshall
    I just wanted to note that host countries automatically qualify for the finals


True for now.

For those that haven't heard, FIFA is making the host qualify for the 2010 cup and on.




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