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|  #1 Posted on 17.9.03 1209.58 | Instant Rating: 7.29 | The good news for Dean folks is that Dean leads in the new Field Poll:
Candidate 9/03, 7/03, 4/03
Howard Dean 23%, 16%, 7%
Joseph Lieberman 15, 14, 22
John Kerry 11, 15, 16
Richard Gephardt 8, 7, 12
Wesley Clark 4, N/A, N/A
Carol Moseley Braun 4, 2, 4
Al Sharpton 3, 3, 4
John Edwards 1, 4, 3
Dennis Kucinich 1, 3, 1
Bob Graham 1, 3, 2
Undecided 29, 33, 29
That's the good news for Dems. Now the bad:
Head-to-Head vs Bush in California
Lieberman 45%
Bush 43
Undecided 12
Bush 45%
Gephardt 43
Undecided 12
Bush 45
Kerry 42
Undecided 13
Bush 45%
Dean 40
Undecided 15
Bush 45%
Clark 37
Undecided 18
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| #2 Posted on 17.9.03 1307.04 | Instant Rating: 7.17 | So the bad news is that an until very recently underfunded former governor of a small northeastern state is losing by 5 points in head to head matchups against a sitting president with an unlimited warchest for campaigning, the residual respect from 9/11 and its aftermath, and a sitting Dem governor in that state with an approval rating just barely higher than Osama Bin Laden? I'll take that in a heartbeat. With everything that's gone on in the last few years, it's a sign of fumbling the ball that Bush isn't winning 60-30 or so right now, no matter where you're polling.
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| #3 Posted on 17.9.03 2104.30 | Instant Rating: 5.54 | The Bush numbers seem pretty stable across the board, but the surprisingly stable numbers for the Democratic candidates (even increasingly longshots like Lieberman and Gephardt) seem to indicate that California will end up voting Democrat in the next election.
As funny as it sounds, I seriously think that one of the factors over the year will be how Dean, Kerry, etc. are portrayed on Saturday Night Live. I shit you not.
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| #4 Posted on 17.9.03 2119.00 | Instant Rating: 8.65 | Originally posted by Big Bad
The Bush numbers seem pretty stable across the board, but the surprisingly stable numbers for the Democratic candidates (even increasingly longshots like Lieberman and Gephardt) seem to indicate that California will end up voting Democrat in the next election.
You say this like it's a surprise or something.
As funny as it sounds, I seriously think that one of the factors over the year will be how Dean, Kerry, etc. are portrayed on Saturday Night Live. I shit you not.
Pssst.....most people who watch SNL don't vote.
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| #5 Posted on 18.9.03 0839.36 | Instant Rating: 5.22 | The way the numbers are going, Braun and Sharpton seem to be moving on up. Both have flown past Graham and Edwards, and now account for 7%.
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| #6 Posted on 18.9.03 1002.35 | Instant Rating: 8.65 | One thing I didn't notice about the recent poll until I scoured it this morning is that for the Democratic side the margin or error is a rather staggering +/-5.9%...so while it's fun to look at and speculate from, such a large deviation pretty much renders it useless, imho.
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| #7 Posted on 18.9.03 1021.05 | Instant Rating: 7.17 | Originally posted by CRZ
One thing I didn't notice about the recent poll until I scoured it this morning is that for the Democratic side the margin or error is a rather staggering +/-5.9%...so while it's fun to look at and speculate from, such a large deviation pretty much renders it useless, imho.
I wouldn't go that far, though saying "WOO, We're in third place by 1%" would kind of silly. I think especially for the Dem preference poll there's some things to be gleaned despite the wide margin of error. Dean is obviously moving forward, Kerry and Lieberman are holding strong near the top, Graham and Edwards are getting closer and closer to the point where they have to ask "why am I in this race", and Undecided is still looking to be a monster candidate in this primary ;)
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