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Since: 27.7.03
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I'm sitting here trying to find a non Spanish site about referees for my I.T project so I thought shove it i'll just ask some people about it. It'll be a medicore (at the best) project but i can't get a F, because we don't have them in England! So one easy question- favourite ref (and why if possible.)




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My favorite ref is Charles Robinson simply because I had a couple of months email correspondence with him after buying some stuff he was selling on ebay. Somewhere at home I still have his email address, but I leave it be now that he is back out on the road, only really writing once when his wife died to send condolences. He was such a cool guy, and in honor of that I had to buy one of his "Little Nature Boy" promo photos he was selling for $10. It has a place of honor in our rec room :)



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Bronco Lubich: No man exposed the business more in the 80's than Bronco attempting to move around to count 3. I think he's still trying to count Al Madril's cover of Brian Adidas from 1987.
And of course, no favorite ref thread is complete without Tommy Young, as it wasn't a Ric Flair World Title match in the 80's without Tommy getting bumped.



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The most memorable ref experience I ever watched was Brother Love as the referee for a Hart Foundation-Rougeau Brothers match circa 1988 or so at a Toronto house show. Back then, the heel guest referee concept wasn't done to death (save for Danny Davis and Teddy Long, but seeing as they were actual referees, I'll exclude them.)

Anyways, Love's penchant for hugging the Rougeaus and slo-counting everything The Harts did made for a classic bout. It was almost as if it was a gimmick match, and Brother Love was the gimmick. You really felt as if The Harts would lose because of his cheating, and that made for a great match.

As for `regular' referees, I'd have to go with Jim Korderas. Don't know why, exactly; he just has the look and acts like a capable law and order type ref.



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Tirantes. It is so great to watch early-mid 90's AAA when the crowd would be at a fever pitch as he does the painfully slow Earl Hebner count as a tecnico has the rudo pinned. He's still doing it, but it isn't the same without the good workers.

While we're on the subject of referees. I was watching some late 80's stuff with Danny Davis, post "suspended from referee-ing for life". What were the storyline circumstances surrounding his return to referee-ing, if any? I can't seem to recall into that portion of my brain.




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It's gotta be the Sliding Referee Tommy Young for me. EVERYTHING he did in the ring was action packed. Especially when he'd jar with Ric Flair. Classic. And my second favorite was the late great Randy Anderson. He had than unmistakeable "One, two...One, two...One, two!" during multi false finish spots in WCW. Damn he was the man.



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I don't know if I have a "favorite" ref....I like Nick Patrick and Little Naitch.

Speaking of Randy Anderson, I remember in WCW when he was supposed to fight somebody I believe for his job, and the ref for that match (Jimmy Jett?) gave him brass knucks to use, then he ended up getting fired. Does anybody vaguely remember that?

I remember in my mid-90's WWF Magazine they had a story on a MLB umpire who reffed in the WWF in the offseason. I believe it was Larry Young. I thought that was pretty cool.
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Since: 10.10.02
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My favorite was Mark Curtis. He'd get so worked up during the matches that I would mostly watch him. But now I'd have to go with Nick Patrick.



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The two current names that's been mentioned are also my 2 favorites

Jimmy Korderas: I also like him, he's tops as a ref that you never notice. Which I guess it's a good thing because he's not distracting you during the action. He's been in the company for a long time. Never really seems to get his due, he's always working mid-card and below... Bit of a sidenote but was there only 2 referees for the entire Vengeance card on Sunday? I just remember seeing Baby Hebner and that other skinny white guy with short hair that kind of looks like Brian Hebner.

Charles Robinson: Lil' Naitch is my favorite ref even back in the WCW days and I like him now. I like how he reacts/sells some of the moves wrestlers give each other LoL. He also seems to be the unofficial Raw Diva ref which I'm sure it's a good gig if you can get it Wow SPF I didn't know he is widowed, that's very sad. Well I'm glad he's in the WWE, he seems pretty cool

A have a real cute story(wasn't cute at the time) of him and Trish about a year to this day after that horrible mud wrestling match Trish was involved and he refed and they both had to be taken to hospital from WWE site.

-As of last Monday, Trish Stratus and referee Charles Robinson know exactly what the Big Show was talking about.
-The former Women's Champion and the man once known as "Li'l Naitch" had severely irritated eyes after the Stratus vs. Stacy Keibler Bra & Panties Mud Match on RAW. (Robinson was also tossed in the pool of mud.)
-"Everyone involved had graininess in our eyeballs," Stratus told WWE.com in a phone interview. "We knew it was just a matter of getting all that sand and mud out."
-"Suddenly I couldn't open my eyes," Stratus said. "They were like, 'Oh whoa, we need to send you to the hospital.'"

-Doctors also encouraged Robinson to visit the medical facility -- "(I went) not because I'm a wimp, but because they told me to," he said.
-But they ended up sitting in the emergency room for 90 minutes. By then, the swelling and irritation had subsided.
-"I looked at Trish and she looked at me," Robinson said. "And I said, 'I'm feeling better' and she said, 'I'm feeling better.' And we left."
-They returned to The Scope in Norfolk, Va., site of that night's RAW, where World Wrestling Entertainment's trainer washed Trish's eyes with a saline solution. Trish still had some swelling, and she was a bit concerned because she was scheduled for a photo shoot on Wednesday. But everything was OK by then, and the shoot -- for Toronto Life magazine -- went fine.
-"I can see," Trish said. "That's all that matters."


LoL at Robinson saying he didn't go to the hospital because he's a wimp but because he was forced too ... It would be even funnier if he said he went just to accompany Trish because he's a gentleman LoL





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I always liked Joey Morella. He never seemed to be in the way, like some referees seem to be.

Plus, I have to say, looking back on it, the twin Hebner angle before WM IV ruled all. I was just a wee tyke back then, but I can remember Dave Hebner running out and me freaking out. THAT was good stuff, kiddos.




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Brian Hebner! The man can beatbox. That's enough for me.

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My all time favourite referee was Steve Lombardi, during that stupid angle in '99 where the regular refs went on strike. Not because of anything special Lombardi did, more because I'm a supporter of scab workers.
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#13 Posted on

    Originally posted by HomerJFong
    Tirantes. It is so great to watch early-mid 90's AAA when the crowd would be at a fever pitch as he does the painfully slow Earl Hebner count as a tecnico has the rudo pinned. He's still doing it, but it isn't the same without the good workers.


VIVA TIRANTES! Gotta' love those suspenders!

My least favorite has to be Earl Hebner. That stupid-ass foot shuffling thing of his as ruined many-a-nearfalls for me.



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Teddy Long was always terrible for that too...his hand would always come to an abrupt halt about halfway down on the three count, so you always knew when the fall was coming with him.

And Omega...I guess we'll see if your sig holds water when the Vengeance buyrate comes in, eh?
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Since: 26.3.03
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#15 Posted on

    Originally posted by Ubermonkeys
    Brian Hebner! The man can beatbox. That's enough for me.


He hasn't shown it on TV yet, but apparently Jimmy Korderas can freestyle.

If they team him up with L'il Hebner, they'll zoom to the top of my list.



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#16 Posted on
What, no love for Josh Milton, WOW's infamous Psycho Ref?

Of the current WWE crew, the only one who really stands out for me is Mike Chioda, probably because of his habit of doing the "devil horns" hand sign to indicate a two-count.



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Props to Shem for mentionning Mike Chioda. I actually borrowed his 'devil horns' symbol whenever doing a two-count. Most of my stuff is actually lifted from him.

I also like how Charles Robinson is into every match he does. When in a simple midcard match, he'll react to a mere backdrop as if the guy was dead. I've always been a big fan of his outrageous reactions. Another key element for good reffing: overdo everything.

I've actually always liked Teddy Long and his ability to improvise. Watch Judgement Day 2000, during the opener. Grandmaster Sexay's pants actually fall off and Long warns him to keep the pants on like he was going to cheat or something. Good stuff.

Can someone explain the 'sliding' thing with Tommy Young?



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#18 Posted on

    Originally posted by Net Hack Slasher

    Bit of a sidenote but was there only 2 referees for the entire Vengeance card on Sunday? I just remember seeing Baby Hebner and that other skinny white guy with short hair that kind of looks like Brian Hebner




I noticed this too. I've watched most of the matches on the show ('cept for Gunn/Noble and McMahon/Gowen) but the only guys reffing were Chioda and Hebner. Where were Jim Korderas and Mike Sparks? *shrugs*

Anyway, what I was gonna say had already been said by others. Shen mentioned Chioda and the devil horn 2-count, I love that. Brian Hebner's beat box 'skillz' may be untouchable. And Tod deKindes pointed out Lil' Naitch's big reactions, i've always loved that about Charles even back in WCW. I agree that a ref should have overdone reactions and all, it can makes things more exciting.

Big swooping mat slaps on pinfalls too, not these quick taps. Work the arm!

As for old school refs, growing up, I really didn't pay alot of attention to them. But there's one WWF ref that always stood out to me. I don't know why. His name escapes me at the moment, but I believe he passed away in the early 90's. Someone out there must know who i'm talking about.





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Since: 26.3.03
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#19 Posted on
    Originally posted by GrubbyLongJohns
    But there's one WWF ref that always stood out to me. I don't know why. His name escapes me at the moment, but I believe he passed away in the early 90's. Someone out there must know who i'm talking about.

Joey Marella, probably. He was the son of Gorilla Monsoon and he died in a car accident. (Am I correct on that?)

He had a great "I'm not going to take any shit from you" facial expression.

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I'll also put my props in for Mark Curtis (Brian Hildebrand) as my Favorite Ref - He reacted, knew when to stay out of the way, could take a good bump, I just loved his work. Rest in Peace, Brian




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