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You wanted the best, you got... Out of Context Quote of the Week.

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    Originally posted by Grimis
      Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
      The article, for example, actually implies that Michael Moore covering the 9/11 attacks was somehow decietful because he hates America and is rooting for the terrorists. And then it compares him to a Klansman.)
    Actually it does not imply anything, as he comes out and says it. Of course, if the shoe fits...

    And comparing him to a Klansman is not far off: Michael Moore has a visceral, unenlightened, ignorant hate of all things American(why else would he be loved by France?)...


Why does Jerry Lewis hate America?

(Sorry, had to be said.)



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    Originally posted by Grimis
      Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
      The article, for example, actually implies that Michael Moore covering the 9/11 attacks was somehow decietful because he hates America and is rooting for the terrorists. And then it compares him to a Klansman.)
    Actually it does not imply anything, as he comes out and says it. Of course, if the shoe fits...

    And comparing him to a Klansman is not far off: Michael Moore has a visceral, unenlightened, ignorant hate of all things American(why else would he be loved by France?)...


are you kidding me? do you know anything about the history of our country and the image that are forefathers had for it. they believed in transparent government where people were free to debate politics(or anything else for that matter) without fear of punishment. hense freedom of speech. this administration has made people think its okay to call people unamerican becuase they disagree with bush's views. to call anyone ignorant for expressing their political views is pretty sad. hate of all things american? you have no idea what this country is about.
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    Originally posted by avonhun
    are you kidding me? do you know anything about the history of our country and the image that are forefathers had for it. they believed in transparent government where people were free to debate politics(or anything else for that matter) without fear of punishment. hense freedom of speech. this administration has made people think its okay to call people unamerican becuase they disagree with bush's views. to call anyone ignorant for expressing their political views is pretty sad. hate of all things american? you have no idea what this country is about.
So....my freedom of speech to call Michael Moore a one who has a visceral, unenlightened, ignorant hate of all things American should be restricted?

Michael Moore is not ignorant because he exercises his freedom of speech. He is ignorant for what he says. That's what I love about the left. If they criticize you, it's freedom of speech; if you critcize them, it's suppression.



If the Sudanese government can't or won't act, and the threat of international sanctions (the U.S. already has sanctions in place) doesn't work, then troops it must be. The ideal solution would be to use troops drawn from the region, but they don't seem to have sufficient numbers and training. Thus, once again, the world will be standing around, waiting to see what the United States does.

However, we already have two foreign military projects — Iraq and Afghanistan — that really ought to be finished up before we take on anything new. But there are major nations fresh and rested from sitting on the sidelines that can and should take the lead.

How about it, France and Germany? The criteria you said you'd need to justify intervention — a clear humanitarian crisis and a U.N. resolution — are there. We'll hold your coats.- East Valley Tribune editorial
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    Originally posted by Grimis
    Michael Moore is not ignorant because he exercises his freedom of speech. He is ignorant for what he says. That's what I love about the left. If they criticize you, it's freedom of speech; if you critcize them, it's suppression.


Hey, uhm, Pot. What'd you say Kettle was again?



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#65 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
    Originally posted by drjayphd
    >Hey, uhm, Pot. What'd you say Kettle was again?
Exactly when did I say Michael Moore should be made to keep mum?



If the Sudanese government can't or won't act, and the threat of international sanctions (the U.S. already has sanctions in place) doesn't work, then troops it must be. The ideal solution would be to use troops drawn from the region, but they don't seem to have sufficient numbers and training. Thus, once again, the world will be standing around, waiting to see what the United States does.

However, we already have two foreign military projects — Iraq and Afghanistan — that really ought to be finished up before we take on anything new. But there are major nations fresh and rested from sitting on the sidelines that can and should take the lead.

How about it, France and Germany? The criteria you said you'd need to justify intervention — a clear humanitarian crisis and a U.N. resolution — are there. We'll hold your coats.- East Valley Tribune editorial
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"Exactly when did I say Michael Moore should be made to keep mum?"

More to the point, when did he tell you to keep mum?



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    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    "Exactly when did I say Michael Moore should be made to keep mum?"

    More to the point, when did he tell you to keep mum?
So then what the hell are we arguing about? I say he's a shithead, others say he he's not, everybody says he has a right to say it. Done and done...



If the Sudanese government can't or won't act, and the threat of international sanctions (the U.S. already has sanctions in place) doesn't work, then troops it must be. The ideal solution would be to use troops drawn from the region, but they don't seem to have sufficient numbers and training. Thus, once again, the world will be standing around, waiting to see what the United States does.

However, we already have two foreign military projects — Iraq and Afghanistan — that really ought to be finished up before we take on anything new. But there are major nations fresh and rested from sitting on the sidelines that can and should take the lead.

How about it, France and Germany? The criteria you said you'd need to justify intervention — a clear humanitarian crisis and a U.N. resolution — are there. We'll hold your coats.- East Valley Tribune editorial
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Dammit, Grimis, keep the POLITICS in the POLITICS forum. THANK YOU.



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#69 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
Grimis have you even watched this movie? It seems you need your opinions spoon fed to you. As a 20 something person that I mentioned earlier, would you put your money where your mouth is and enlist to go to Iraq? Isn't that the ultimate mark of a patriot?




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I was going to jump in here, but since CRZ and half of the board did it for me, I'll just let this be.

On a more topical note about the movie, anyone knew the expect released date of the DVD or what can we expect from it. I love Bowling for Columbine, because the extras were awesome, intern commentary is genuis.
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    Originally posted by A Fan
    I was going to jump in here, but since CRZ and half of the board did it for me, I'll just let this be.

    On a more topical note about the movie, anyone knew the expect released date of the DVD or what can we expect from it. I love Bowling for Columbine, because the extras were awesome, intern commentary is genuis.


Before the movie was released, there was talk about getting it on DVD before the election. That was before it became such a huge hit, though. (Still, with any luck, a lot of this won't be that relevant after November.)
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    Originally posted by Grimis
      Originally posted by avonhun
      are you kidding me? do you know anything about the history of our country and the image that are forefathers had for it. they believed in transparent government where people were free to debate politics(or anything else for that matter) without fear of punishment. hense freedom of speech. this administration has made people think its okay to call people unamerican becuase they disagree with bush's views. to call anyone ignorant for expressing their political views is pretty sad. hate of all things american? you have no idea what this country is about.
    So....my freedom of speech to call Michael Moore a one who has a visceral, unenlightened, ignorant hate of all things American should be restricted?

    Michael Moore is not ignorant because he exercises his freedom of speech. He is ignorant for what he says. That's what I love about the left. If they criticize you, it's freedom of speech; if you critcize them, it's suppression.


did you even bother to read what i had to say. i didnt try to silence you. you have the right to your opinion. the point i was trying to get across is that people shouldnt be calling other people unamerican. all kinds of people from all walks of life all live in america and have the right to express their opinion. i hate defending michael moore because there were flaws in his movie but i hate more that the same people who tried to tried to stop his movie from being released are the same people who are calling others unamerican.
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    Originally posted by SeVen ™
    Grimis have you even watched this movie? It seems you need your opinions spoon fed to you. As a 20 something person that I mentioned earlier, would you put your money where your mouth is and enlist to go to Iraq? Isn't that the ultimate mark of a patriot?


So in order to be patriotic, everyone must enlist in the Armed Forces? You sure you aren't in North Korea rather than Japan?

    Originally posted by avonhun
    people shouldnt be calling other people unamerican. all kinds of people from all walks of life all live in america and have the right to express their opinion



Do you even read what you are posting?
You also have the right to use capital letters occasionally.

Trying to steer more towards media here, I am somewhat surprised that the Air America folks haven't been more seem on the TV talking about this movie, seems to be a chance at promotion wasted.




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You wanted the best, you got... Out of Context Quote of the Week.


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    Originally posted by Grimis
      Originally posted by drjayphd
      Hey, uhm, Pot. What'd you say Kettle was again?
    Exactly when did I say Michael Moore should be made to keep mum?


Eh, I was referring more to the asshats on the right who define freedom of speech as agreeing with them or they criticize you. Except if you disagree with them, it's not suppression, it's treason.

Not really aimed at you, actually, I've seen much worse asshattery elsewhere. I'm still trying to figure out a way for being made to listen to Michael Savage (not by choice) at his worst being a federal offense. You want to listen to him, fine, but don't MAKE me do it. (Again, not you.)

EDIT: Eddie, the problem is that Air America's trying too big. Gotta do it the way the right did.

(edited by drjayphd on 7.7.04 2319)


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It's called practicing what you preach. I am a registered Republican (and I will never change) but I can not support this administration that allowed these kids to die for nothing. Most conservatives talk isolationism (which as a upper middle class Black and Hispanic man I oddly consider myself a conservative). And allowing the U.N. to handle conflicts without wasting American resources, right? Then why the old blind eye over Iraq? I think Micheal Moore is a douche bag along with John Kerry (I like Edwards). But I am forced to vote for Kerry, just to get Bu$h Inc. out of Casablanca. This movie and I call it a movie, is simply propaganda. And propaganda can be very useful. If it will get all these young crabs out the house and actually go vote, then mission accomplished.

But the movie raised some good points, even if you hate Moore if you watch it and go dig up the real facts not something Moore put a spin on, then you are a better person because of it. But people, please, stop letting some asshole, who the night before was probably doing a line of coke of a call girl's ass decide your opinion. A person who refuses to hear someone's opinion because they believe different things is a true fool. And I implore everyone to read the original Fahrenheit 451 and tell me they aren't any similarities with today.




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Slightly unrelated....

Did anyone catch the Daily Show last night (Wednesday July 7th)?

There was a hysterical segment with the guy "making" the "Michael Moore Hates America" film, with some pretty funny cameos by Moore. Actually, Grimis might not think it was so funny... ;-)

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    Originally posted by Leroy
    There was a hysterical segment with the guy "making" the "Michael Moore Hates America" film, with some pretty funny cameos by Moore. Actually, Grimis might not think it was so funny... ;-)
I did not see the piece, but given the fact that Moore was dodging his requests for interviews, and that the Dialy Shows tends to rip everything out of context, I wouldn't have high hopes for it anyway.



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    Originally posted by Grimis
    I did not see the piece, but given the fact that Moore was dodging his requests for interviews, and that the Dialy Shows tends to rip everything out of context, I wouldn't have high hopes for it anyway.


As we all know, "The Daily Show" (as it is known in some circles) has a responsibilty to deliver a nuanced report of all sides of an issue in a concise manner, so the viewer is left with a complete picture of the argument and can decide for himself where he stands. For this is truly the raison d'etre of the comedy show.



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I'm not saying it's the Daily Show's responsibility to be nuanced and balanced(that's what the NY Times and LA Times fail at often). I'm just not putting much stock in what they have to say about it.

    Originally posted by SeVen ™
    It's called practicing what you preach. I am a registered Republican (and I will never change) but I can not support this administration that allowed these kids to die for nothing. Most conservatives talk isolationism...And allowing the U.N. to handle conflicts without wasting American resources, right? Then why the old blind eye over Iraq?
Do what?

As somebody who works for the Defense Department, and somebody who has lost friends to this war, I cannot sit idly by while you say that these Americans have "died for nothing."

Once upon a time, Amerircans stood up for freedom from oppression and the protection of American interests. I guess that's not good enough anymore.



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