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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.85
http://www.freewebs.com/hoganresults/index.htm

Obviously put together by someone with lots of time on their hands.
That's a lot of travel, even for a guy who did mostly the TV tapings only.
I would love to see this for other wrestlers.
Interesting to see he subbed for Savage in a match against Jake the Snake. Usually at house show, a no show card change means they're replaced by Koko B. Ware or Bushwhacker Luke.
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"Nagoya, Japan 1/27/84: WWE Champion Hulk Hogan & Iron Mike Sharpe battled Antonio Inoki & Tatsumi Fujinami to a double countout"

Hmmm....one of these things is not like the other...







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I would love to see one of these done for either Flair or Lawler -- talk about guys who have faced everyone. Does anyone know if anything like this exists?




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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.08
    Originally posted by VanillaSky
    "Nagoya, Japan 1/27/84: WWE Champion Hulk Hogan & Iron Mike Sharpe battled Antonio Inoki & Tatsumi Fujinami to a double countout"

    Hmmm....one of these things is not like the other...



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.57
I saw something in there I had never heard about before, and I swear I went on Google looking for info and found none. They mentioned a supposed match between Flair and Hogan in 1983, but had no details on it. Does anyone know anything about that?



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.88
If anyone is looking for old results and such, there's always this (thehistoryofwwe.com) site. It's got tons of WW(W)F/E results dating back to '63 plus a lot of other cool stuff if you've never seen it before. Maybe everyone here already knows about it, but it doesn't seem like the most publicized site out there especially considering how much it has on it.
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What? You mean, Hulk Hogan actually paid his dues and had to do more than just pose for the crowd??? Man, and all this time I thought propelling pro wrestling into a national spotlight was easy.

No offense and this isn't directed at you, dWaters, but I am so sick of comments like that and the IWC's disdain for Hogan...most of it is completely unwarranted.

Twice he played a large and pivitol role in wrestling and putting (inter)national attention on the industry.

Did he make bad business decisions and/or hold some people back? Yea, he did...but he did a tons more good than he did harm to the business.

People have mentioned on here that WM III would not have drawn as big as it did if the internet was around then like it is now. Well, I hope this doesn't burst anyone's bubble...but Ric Flair wouldn't have had much of a career either because the routine (i.e.--the same match and the "face almost wins the title") would have been noted, dissected and over-analyzed just like matches done today--it would have become stale.

Hogan did earn his money; and people need to stop acting as if he didn't. Wrestlers from back then may have complained that Hogan was selfish, egotistic, or were angry because they didn't work a program with him...but I've never seen or read an interview where they complained about the payoffs they were getting from him bringing people to the arena.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.56
But Flair could and did wrestle any style, any place, against any competitor. Forget the WCW stuff you may have seen. Back when it was the old territory days, Flair would wrestle as a heel at the Omni, a face in Florida, a heel in Mid South and a tweener (depending on who he was facing)in WCCW all in the same week. Hogan couldnt do that if he had to.
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    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    But Flair could and did wrestle any style, any place, against any competitor. Forget the WCW stuff you may have seen. Back when it was the old territory days, Flair would wrestle as a heel at the Omni, a face in Florida, a heel in Mid South and a tweener (depending on who he was facing)in WCCW all in the same week. Hogan couldnt do that if he had to.
Why, because you say so? You have no idea. Hogan seemed to do just fine as a heel in the nWo for quite a while...or maybe my memory's slipping.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.26
The people Hogan lost too (mostly via DQ or countout)

Andre
Backlund
Inoki
Dusty Rhodes
Tony Garea
Atlas
Dominic DeNucci
Morales
Hansen
Tiger Jeet Singh
Lawler
Bobby Duncum
Patera
Bockwinkel
Jesse "The Body" Ventura
Nick Bockwinkel
Big John Studd
Orndorff
George "The Animal" Steele
"Dr. D" David Schultz
Rowdy Roddy Piper
Brutus Beefcake
Magnificent Muraco
Savage
"Adorable" Adrian Adonis
Kamala
Killer Khan
Ted DiBiase
One Man Gang
Bundy
Big Boss Man
The Genius
Perfect
Warrior
Earthquake
Slaughter
Flair
Undertaker
Yokozuna
The Giant
Arn Anderson
Luger
Jacques Rougeau
DDP
Sting
Goldberg
Mike Awesome
Horace Hogan
Vampiro
The Rock
HHH
Kurt Angle
Lesnar
Sean O'Haire
Mr. McMahon (arm wrestling)
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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.66
    Originally posted by BigSteve
    If anyone is looking for old results and such, there's always this (thehistoryofwwe.com) site. It's got tons of WW(W)F/E results dating back to '63 plus a lot of other cool stuff if you've never seen it before. Maybe everyone here already knows about it, but it doesn't seem like the most publicized site out there especially considering how much it has on it.


Wow, thats a really good website. Thanks a lot Big.
The only thing I dont like, that WWE did too is trace the lineage of the World Heavyweight Title (The one Batista has now) only up to when it was handed to Triple H by Bischoff-

To me, that title has its lineage with the WCW and the NWA- it dates back to 1905... ITS ONE HUNDRED YEARS OLD! Oh well, I guess it doesnt matter to them, but in my mind, it has a whole nother lineage. Just cause it was put together with the WWE Belt into the Undisputed Title and then separated again- doesnt mean the prior lineage vanishes right?

Just wondering why they would discount the rest of the lineage- Have a Nice Day people.

EDIT: In the Hogan site, it mentions he body slammed the Big Show as Mr.America- is there any footage of that?!

(edited by WhoTookMyHonor? on 19.8.05 2054)



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.64

A couple of notes:

-The site has no mention of a match Bobby Heenan has in his book of an early "Golden"-Heenan tag team. Heenan said they wrestled as a team at least once.

-Most of the dates for the GCW tapings can be gotten at: www.GeorgiaWrestlingHistory.com

-Many listings of this sort are gathered at the Kayfabe Memories message board; the site itself is still down but the board is active at: http://superstarbillygraham.net/forum

Scroll down to the Old School Match Results forum.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.01
    Originally posted by Whattaburger


    What? You mean, Hulk Hogan actually paid his dues and had to do more than just pose for the crowd??? Man, and all this time I thought propelling pro wrestling into a national spotlight was easy.

    No offense and this isn't directed at you, dWaters, but I am so sick of comments like that and the IWC's disdain for Hogan...most of it is completely unwarranted.


While I agree with everything you said, it doesn't really apply here. The guy said nothing even remotely negative about Hogan. If anything, it looks like he's a little impressed at the amount of travel Hogan did given how little he probably *had* to do.

On a side note, I don't know if anyone here has ever seen a Hogan match from Japan, but if you haven't yet, don't. Whatever you do, don't. I've caught a couple and while he's no Bret Hart, Hogan can actually hold his own in mat wrestling and probably showed 15 or so moves a match that given his US exposure I had never seen him do before. Like a drop toe hold from a headlock and then straight into an STF.

It's just ruined all the memories I had of Hogan growing up, knowing that he was capable of MUCH more than just punch, punch, slam, but because the fans were always eating that up like it was going out of style he just didn't feel the need to do it. It's seriously like watching two seperate wrestlers.


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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.70
    Originally posted by spf
    I saw something in there I had never heard about before, and I swear I went on Google looking for info and found none. They mentioned a supposed match between Flair and Hogan in 1983, but had no details on it. Does anyone know anything about that?


I'm glad someone brought that up, as I havent thought of it years. Supposedly, the 1991 Ohio match was NOT the first Hogan/Flair meeting (which occured only days before as a try out match, while the official "first meeting" has always been accepted in the October 1991 Oakland show) . I remember reading details of thier rare past meetings. I know its bizare since back then match records werent as closely recorded, and we never hear about it today, but there's even instances of mega rare Hogan/Flair tag matches from the 1983 time period. I dont know how accurate these results are, but this isnt the first mention.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.85
    Originally posted by Tribal Prophet
      Originally posted by Whattaburger


      What? You mean, Hulk Hogan actually paid his dues and had to do more than just pose for the crowd??? Man, and all this time I thought propelling pro wrestling into a national spotlight was easy.

      No offense and this isn't directed at you, dWaters, but I am so sick of comments like that and the IWC's disdain for Hogan...most of it is completely unwarranted.


    While I agree with everything you said, it doesn't really apply here. The guy said nothing even remotely negative about Hogan. If anything, it looks like he's a little impressed at the amount of travel Hogan did given how little he probably *had* to do.


Bingo.

I thought I was paying him a compliment.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.45
Hogan Bashing is SO 1990s.

Hogan's schedule was trimmed back considerably in 1992 as he got older and tried to make it in something outside of the business. When you have as much leverage as Hogan at that age, of course you're going to try to stay as healthy as possible and off the road night after night.

Now, whether this was a good move for the promotions to put the title on a guy who would rarely be around is something people will debate until the end of time.

Nice website. Seems accurate enough.
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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.86
I remembered only one "reverse decision" to take away the belt when he was in the AWA, I can't believe they pissed the fans off that badly twice. I'm guessing the AWA still wouldn't have been able to keep him, but having a long run with him as champ would have helped stop the bleeding which started around the time he left (pushes of Bockwinkle, Greg and Verne Gagne, older wrestlers). Just 2 or 3 years later it was pretty unwatchable for many despite having Shawn Michaels, the Road Warriors, lots more, at one time or another.
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.95

    Originally posted by Ric Flair's book
    If things were done properly, my firat match with Hogan would have been hyped for months, and on Pay-Per-View. But when we finally wrestled on October 25, 1991, in Oakland, no one outside the local market was even aware that the event was taking place. The same was true with our other matches in Los Angeles, Phoenix, Boston, and Madison Square Garden. Yeah, Oakland, L.A., and Boston were sold out, and we came close with the Garden, but people had been craving this match since 1984, and it should have been the biggest thing ever.

(The photo's caption: "Squaring off agains Hulk Hogan for the first time was the match everybody wanted but so few actually got to see.)

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    Originally posted by CRZ
      Originally posted by StaggerLee
      But Flair could and did wrestle any style, any place, against any competitor. Forget the WCW stuff you may have seen. Back when it was the old territory days, Flair would wrestle as a heel at the Omni, a face in Florida, a heel in Mid South and a tweener (depending on who he was facing)in WCCW all in the same week. Hogan couldnt do that if he had to.
    Why, because you say so? You have no idea. Hogan seemed to do just fine as a heel in the nWo for quite a while...or maybe my memory's slipping.


Not only that, but Hogan was also the top heel in the WWF during his first run there in the late 70's/early 80's. When he came back to the WWE with the NWO, they tried to have him be a heel but the crowds kept cheering him and the WWE was forced to turn him face.



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.43
    Originally posted by Tribal Prophet
    On a side note, I don't know if anyone here has ever seen a Hogan match from Japan, but if you haven't yet, don't. Whatever you do, don't. I've caught a couple and while he's no Bret Hart, Hogan can actually hold his own in mat wrestling and probably showed 15 or so moves a match that given his US exposure I had never seen him do before. Like a drop toe hold from a headlock and then straight into an STF.

    It's just ruined all the memories I had of Hogan growing up, knowing that he was capable of MUCH more than just punch, punch, slam, but because the fans were always eating that up like it was going out of style he just didn't feel the need to do it. It's seriously like watching two seperate wrestlers.


That's a good observation. Hogan did seem work differently in Japan, but I think it was due to a few factors.
1) Japanese style vs "WWF" style
2) Expectations of the fans in Japan are higher for actual wrestling and mat work
3) Hogan wrestling some of the world's best workers (Tenyru, Hansen, Fujinami, Choshu, Maeda) can't help but have good matches.
4) The international appeal of the Back-Scratcher

Here's a few that are very stiff and very entertaining:

Hulk Hogan vs. Stan Hansen (4/13/90) AJPW/WWF Wrestling Summit @ Tokyo Dome
This match is great, maybe Hogan's best. This card also featured a Savage/Tenyru match that was tremendous!

Hulk Hogan vs. Genichiro Tenryu (12/12/91)

Hulk Hogan vs Masahiro Chono (10/13/03) NJPW Tokyo Dome
Very fun match, as Chono stretches Hogan out with multiple STF's. It was also New Japan's last legit Dome sellout.



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