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This is interesting:


    Michael Benoit said Wednesday that he agreed to the testing because murder-suicide was out of character for his son. He also disclosed that after the killings, he discovered a diary written by his son that showed his son was having problems.

    "After reading the diary, I would have thought it was written by someone who was extremely disturbed at the time," Michael Benoit said.


After Benoit's death, Alvarez and Meltzer mentioned Benoit had been writing a diary, as if he was writing messages to Eddie Guerrero, in the months before his death. It, and other items, were presumed burned by Chris before the bodies were discovered. This is the first I've heard of it still existing.



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Surprisingly, this is the first I have heard of the diary. It sounds like it would be quite a disturbing read.




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In a lot of ways this is an even bigger story than anything related to wrestlings and drugs, because it's goes deeper than the culture surrounding/inherent in wrestling. Not everyone works as hard a style as Chris Benoit did, but just because they won't have "the brain of an 85-year-old Alzheimer's patient" doesn't mean they aren't going to be in bad shape. It's not like 1 unprotected chairshot : 1 evil black spot on the brain.
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Just did an interview with NFL HoFer Joe DeLamielleure, part of which was about the horrible treatment of NFL vets in disability clains, and the name Mike Webster was brought up.

Webster was an excellent center for hard-hitting Steeler teams, who was left in his latter days all but helpless due to repeated concussions to the head. Joe D also brought up former Viking center Mick Tinglehoff, another great vet who is suffering from dementia.

Here is a quote from an article, and a link to the article itself. The quote refers to Webster:

"But the case of Mike Webster, which played out in court, afforded a rare look at its mind-set. Webster, the seemingly immortal Steelers center who made the All-Century team and was the four-time captain of a Super Bowl champion team, retired in 1990 after 17 seasons and immediately presented signs of dementia. As offensive line coach for the Kansas City Chiefs, he slept on a bench in the locker room and couldn't recall where he lived. He gave whatever money he had to total strangers, wound up bedding in his truck, and frequently zapped himself with a Taser gun to quell the pain in his back.

"He was drifting for years when I got him to doctors who diagnosed severe TBI (traumatic brain injury)," says Bob Fitzsimmons, a West Virginia lawyer who worked, pro bono, for seven years to bring the case to closure. "The union hired an investigator to try to discredit Mike, brought their own doctor in who agreed with my doctors, and they still denied us three or four times and kept trying to spend him dry. Finally we got to trial and won a huge judgment in district court. But even after the union lost again on appeal, Upshaw told reporters that if the board voted that day, they'd still go against Mike, six to nothing."

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Yep, that interview is sitting on my coffee table...and I thought about it straight away when I read this latest Benoit news.
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Does anyone else see the groundwork being established for a contributory negligence lawsuit being filed against Vince and Co. by Benoit's remaining children and/or Nancy's parents due to the repeated chair-shots and diving head butts?
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Surprise, repeated blows to the head can lead to concussion damage and permanent brain injury. It's a problem for any contact sport, like the NFL vets mentioned in that interview, but especially for guys like ex-boxers, whose job was basically to get punched in the head a lot. The thing is, I think something like this is pretty incidental to the Benoit case, because with the numbers of football players, boxers, pro wrestlers, and who knows who else who have suffered concussion damage as a result of their jobs, you'd think that you would see more cases similar to the Benoit situation.
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
    Does anyone else see the groundwork being established for a contributory negligence lawsuit being filed against Vince and Co. by Benoit's remaining children and/or Nancy's parents due to the repeated chair-shots and diving head butts?


Didn't Benoit's doctor tell him to stop with the diving head butts after his neck surgery? Unless Vince specifically told him to keep performing that move against doctor's orders, I don't see how one can argue that this was WWE's fault ... of course, having Benoit's medical records handy, they could have threatened him with suspension/fines/whatever if he continued performing the move, which they (seemingly) did not.

Hyatte actually makes some good points about this on his blog ...





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Oh, hooray, Hyatte's still alive.

While you could make the argument that Benoit chose to do those moves knowing the potential for damage, he may well not have been in his right mind when weighing the risks/rewards of landing on his face multiple times a week.

But as far as liability goes, I am not sure how well any kind of potential lawsuit would fare. I imagine that they'd be very quick to settle as they were with the Hart family.
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Big Show and Ric Flair also received packages from the same pharmacy (Palm Beach Post), though the article doesn't mention what or when.

It would be the best thing ever if Big Show was taking HGH.



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From Hyatte's blog:

"Chris Benoit was an idiot because he kept giving himself concussions. Did he get those concussions from his deadly chops? No. From his Crossface Crippler? Nope. From his BUMPS? Ehhh, no.

How about from those top rope diving headbuts? You know, the ones his Doctor told him to stop doing after his neck fusion surgery? DING DING DING."

That's great that he's so sure all the bumps Benoit took had nothing to do with it. Internet writer AND doctor - no end to this man's talents!
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    Originally posted by hayden
    From Hyatte's blog:

    "Chris Benoit was an idiot because he kept giving himself concussions. Did he get those concussions from his deadly chops? No. From his Crossface Crippler? Nope. From his BUMPS? Ehhh, no.

    How about from those top rope diving headbuts? You know, the ones his Doctor told him to stop doing after his neck fusion surgery? DING DING DING."

    That's great that he's so sure all the bumps Benoit took had nothing to do with it. Internet writer AND doctor - no end to this man's talents!



Well, there WERE the diving headbutts. And spots like diving through the ropes to the floor only to get smashed with a chair on the way down. I'm almost positive that happened in at least one match with Jericho...I wonder how HE looks back on that.



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    From his BUMPS? Ehhh, no.


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The man also took some of the nastier looking chairshots. You really can't blame anyone but him for not getting his hand up faster or turning his back to the shot.



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You can if it wasn't telegraphed early enough...
That's negligence on the opponents side.

But can it be proved???



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