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I know a few people have seen it, but Eric Bischoff has been answering fan questions on his facebook profile. The recent update has some nice quotes about Honky Tonk Man and Juventud Guerrera.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/notes/vince-russo/eric-bischoff-answers-more-questions-feb-21-22-2010-growing-tna-honky-tonk-man-f/324857850740
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You know, without that comma, this topic title is far funnier. Well done.



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.63
    Originally posted by Psycho Penguin
    You know, without that comma, this topic title is far funnier. Well done.


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EB's top 5 movie list made me rage. Avatar? Bucket List? ANY Denzel movie? FFS Easy-E.



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    Originally posted by Super Shane Spear
    EB's top 5 movie list made me rage. Avatar? Bucket List? ANY Denzel movie? FFS Easy-E.


So that explains what he thinks "entertainment" is.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.25
Ooh, dissecting this should be like shooting fish in a barrel. Where do I begin?

    Originally posted by Uncle Eric
    Its not about "beating" WWE (although that would be a great achievement), it is about growing the fan base of TNA, which will grow the PPV and live event business.


Because the cheap shots taken at "sports entertainment" and having Taz constantly take subtle pot shots at Michael Cole and Vince McMahon have everything to do with expanding the brand and nothing at all to do with bashing WWE and wanting to beat them to the ground. Of course.

    Originally posted by Uncle Eric
    IMO we already have PLENTY of great talent that has yet to be fully utilized. In my opinion we should be putting our energy into building on existing talent before looking outside.


Does booking Beer Money for one out of every four shows and jobbing Samoa Joe to Orlando Jordan count as "building existing talent"? Has Daniels even won a match since the Hogan regime started? Is there a particular reason that half of the guys in the X Division cage match that started the Hogan regime haven't been seen since?

    Originally posted by Uncle Eric
    (re: Daniels' treatment) I know you fans want to see each of your favorite wrestlers being featured in a way that you feel is appropriate. Trust me, all of us see great things in the future of many of the talents in TNA. The truth is it takes time and effort to get things in place and as nice as it would be to do it all at once, it simply isn't practical from a story telling point of view. Keep watching..I am sure you won't be disappointed!


Sooo...having Daniels win a match against a guy that peaked in the middle of the Attitude era isn't practical from a story telling point of view?

    Originally posted by Uncle Eric
    There is only one wrestler who stands out as a real pain in the ass and that is Honky Tonk Man. He had zero to offer and the audience gagged on him, and despite the fact that he was brought in more as a favor and experiment, he actually thought he was over. The night I told him we were changing directions and he was going to drop the World Television title, he actually called his wife to see what he should do. She evidently told him he should stand his ground and try to hold us up. I fired him on the spot.

    Other than that, while I have certainly had trying moments with other talent, none of them were situations where I could honestly say anyone deserves to be on the same list as the Honkey Tonk Man.


It's times like this I wish people (aside from FLEA) took Honky's site as seriously as they used to. The rebuttal would have been classic.

    Originally posted by Uncle Eric
    I never had any interest at any time in HHH. Hes a good talent in some respects and certainly has been around for a long time, but he never had the "it" factor of a Hogan, Rock, Austin or Cena.


Triple H is a lot of things, but to say he never had the "it" factor is total ignorance. Of course, he said the same thing about Chris Jericho. Hell, he said the same thing about AUSTIN in 1995, so how seriously can you take this?

    Originally posted by Uncle Eric
    (re: Juventud Guerrera) He's a world class screw up.


Pretty much agree with that one. Of course, the irony comes when someone immediately asks about employing Scott Hall. Which segues to...

    Originally posted by Uncle Eric
    (re: Justifying Scott Hall's employment) Good point, but Scott Hall has the potential to be one of the greatest minds in the business and still has a gift in the ring. Juventud....I'd rather take an ice pick to my thigh.


This is like saying a punch in the gut's better than a kick to the nuts. You know who else had the potential to be the greatest mind in the business? Jake Roberts. But I don't exactly see people banging his door down. Why? Because he's a total screwup who cares more about the bottle than the business. And that would also describe Scott Hall to a tee.

In spite of all the sarcasm, I've missed moments like this. The wrestling world's been without a punching bag too long since WCW went under. Glad the same cast of characters is back to do it all over again.

(edited by It's False on 23.2.10 1054)



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    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    Grammar and punctuation is my downfall.


Yes. Yes, they is.



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    Originally posted by It's False

      Originally posted by Uncle Eric
      I never had any interest at any time in HHH. Hes a good talent in some respects and certainly has been around for a long time, but he never had the "it" factor of a Hogan, Rock, Austin or Cena.


    Triple H is a lot of things, but to say he never had the "it" factor is total ignorance. Of course, he said the same thing about Chris Jericho. Hell, he said the same thing about AUSTIN in 1995, so how seriously can you take this?









My mind might be going and Uncle Eric might have been on Vince's payroll at the time, but didn't he state numerous times that the one person he regretted not having and would have prevented the shift in power from WCW to the WWF in the late 90's was Hunter?
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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Originally posted by It's False

        Originally posted by Uncle Eric
        I never had any interest at any time in HHH. Hes a good talent in some respects and certainly has been around for a long time, but he never had the "it" factor of a Hogan, Rock, Austin or Cena.


      Triple H is a lot of things, but to say he never had the "it" factor is total ignorance. Of course, he said the same thing about Chris Jericho. Hell, he said the same thing about AUSTIN in 1995, so how seriously can you take this?




    My mind might be going and Uncle Eric might have been on Vince's payroll at the time, but didn't he state numerous times that the one person he regretted not having and would have prevented the shift in power from WCW to the WWF in the late 90's was Hunter?


I guess I'm the only one that read 'Hogan, Rock, Austin, or Cena.' which has kind of been the internet's complaint all decade.

(edited by Psycho Penguin on 23.2.10 2209)


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    Originally posted by It's False


      Originally posted by Uncle Eric
      (re: Justifying Scott Hall's employment) Good point, but Scott Hall has the potential to be one of the greatest minds in the business and still has a gift in the ring. Juventud....I'd rather take an ice pick to my thigh.


    This is like saying a punch in the gut's better than a kick to the nuts. You know who else had the potential to be the greatest mind in the business? Jake Roberts. But I don't exactly see people banging his door down. Why? Because he's a total screwup who cares more about the bottle than the business. And that would also describe Scott Hall to a tee.

    In spite of all the sarcasm, I've missed moments like this. The wrestling world's been without a punching bag too long since WCW went under. Glad the same cast of characters is back to do it all over again.

    (edited by It's False on 23.2.10 1054)


Scott Hall has actually come up with some of the better random ideas, I just can't think of any off the top of my head.

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    Originally posted by redsoxnation
      Originally posted by It's False

        Originally posted by Uncle Eric
        I never had any interest at any time in HHH. Hes a good talent in some respects and certainly has been around for a long time, but he never had the "it" factor of a Hogan, Rock, Austin or Cena.


      Triple H is a lot of things, but to say he never had the "it" factor is total ignorance. Of course, he said the same thing about Chris Jericho. Hell, he said the same thing about AUSTIN in 1995, so how seriously can you take this?









    My mind might be going and Uncle Eric might have been on Vince's payroll at the time, but didn't he state numerous times that the one person he regretted not having and would have prevented the shift in power from WCW to the WWF in the late 90's was Hunter?
He cut a promo on Raw back in The Summer of '02 saying that when he announced he was gonna recruit HHH to Raw.
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I guess Eric means if HHH and HBK weren't friends then DX maybe wouldn't have taken off. I just can't see HHH being the key ingredient to help WCW cement itself especially if you looked at his early days when WCW was hot. I almost agree with Eric of HHH not having the IT factor. Compared to Rock, Austin, Flair and Hogan, I don't think he connects to a wide range of fans like they did. He connects with the WWE audience, but that audience is almost half the size of what it was during Attitude Era or even during 2002. I am on the fence about Cena too. He has such a mix bag of support depending on where they are that it hurts him at times. He has brought in new fans to help stop the bleeding of older and casual fans leaving due to uninteresting storylines. I think he is hurt by booking more then anything else. If he was booked right from the start as champion ie not going to Raw, I think we would look differently on him.

Everything else minus the Juvi and Honkey Man thing is utter bullshit. He wants to beat WWE and bad. I also don't believe him when they say they are going to keep most of the TNA originals in good storyline. There have only been a handful of good storylines since Hogan took over which some people would argue there have been none. I think AJ/Flair has been fun to watch as well as Pope getting his push and Anderson/Kurt. The rest has been garbage or there one minute gone the next. They have no idea how to book long term with the rest of the talent or how to book them at all. A bi-sexual black man is not going to pop ratings for you especially when he is beating a guy who should be your unstoppable force. The booking has been so chaotic and stupid in the mid-card that it boggles the mind.
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