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...they've just listed their choices for the Top 100 Video Games of All-Time. And their list is, well... There's a few head-scratchers - they seem to be limiting themselves to one game per series, but that leads to some horribly glaring ommissions, including damn near every Super Mario Brothers, Legend of Zelda and Final Fantasy game, although sometimes, they'll include a whole series in one entry - i.e. Baldur's Gate or Phantasy Star. They seem to have no problem stocking the list with dozens of boring PC war sims, either. IGN.com is, oddly enough, in the process of doing the exact same thing, and it'll be interesting to compare the two charts side-by-side.

For historical purposes:

100. Missile Command - (Arcade, 1981)

99. X-Com: UFO Defense (PC, 1994)

98. Frogger (Arcade, 1981)

97. Secret of Mana (SNES, 1993)

96. M.U.L.E. (Commodore 64, 1983)

95. Golden Axe (Arcade, 1988)

94. IL-2 Sturmovik (PC, 2001)

93. Joust (Arcade, 1982)

92. Super Star Wars (SNES, 1992)

91. Spy Hunter (Arcade, 1982)

90. Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped (PS1, 1998)

89. Castle Wolfenstein (PC, 1984)

88. FIFA Soccer 2003 (Multi-platform, 2002)

87. Battlezone (Arcade, 1980)

86. Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo (Arcade, 1996)

85. Prince of Persia (PC, 1989)

84. Asteroids (Arcade, 1979)

83. Daytona USA (Arcade, 1994)

82. Ghouls N Ghosts (Arcade, 1988)

81. Gauntlet (Arcade, 1985)

80. Silent Hill 2 (PS2, 2001)

79. King's Quest (PC, 1984)

78. Defender (Arcade, 1980)

77. Saturn Bomberman (Saturn, 1997)

76. Phantasy Star (series) (SMS, 1988)

75. Wave Race 64 (N64, 1996)

74. Robotron 2084 (Arcade, 1982)

73. Driver (PS1, PC, 1999)

72. Animal Crossing (Gamecube, 2002)

71. Bust-A-Move 2 (PS1, 1998)

70. Homeworld (PC, 1999)

69. Centipede (Arcade, 1981)

68. Roller Coaster Tycoon (PC, 1999)

67. Virtua Tennis 2K2 (Dreamcast, 2001)

66. Mechwarrior 2: 31st Century Combat (PC, 1996)

65. Devil May Cry (PS2, 2001)

64. Samurai Showdown (Neo Geo, 1993)

63. R-Type (Arcade, 1988)

62. Max Payne (Multiplatform, 2001)

61. Panzer Dragoon Saga (Saturn, 1998)

60. Star Wars: Jedi Knight - Dark Forces II (PC, 1997)

59. Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate II: Shadow of Amn (PC, 1998/2000)

58. Virtua Fighter 4 (PS2, 2002)

57. Tempest (Arcade, 1981)

56. Lemmings (Multiplatform, 1990)

55. Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six (Multiplatform, 1998)

54. NBA Jam (Arcade, 1993)

53. Mike Tyson's Punch-Out (NES, 1986)

52. Wing Commander 1 & 2 (PC, 1990/1991)

51. Contra (NES, 1987)

50. Pitfall! (Atari 2600, 1982)

49. Pokemon Red/Blue (Game Boy Color, 1998)

48. Chrono Trigger (SNES, 1995)

47. Tron (Arcade, 1982)

46. Unreal (PC, 1998)

45. Donkey Kong (Arcade, 1981)

44. Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings (PC, 1999)

43. NHL '93 (Genesis, 1993)

42. Quake II (PC, 1997)

41. Dues Ex (PC, 1999)

40. Dance Dance Revolution (Arcade, 2001)

39. Mortal Kombat II (Arcade, 1994)

38. Sonic the Hedgehog (Genesis, 1991)

37. Simcity (PC, 1989)

36. Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell (XBox, 2002)

35. Battlefield 1942 (PC, 2002)

34. Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar (Multiplatform, 1985)

33. Duke Nukem 3-D (PC, 1996)

32. Tekken 2 (PS1, 1996)

31. Diablo II (PC, 2000)

30. Mario Kart 64 (N64, 1997)

29. Medal of Honor: Allied Assault (PC, 2002)

28. Galaga (Arcade, 1981)

27. Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge (PC, 1991)

26. Command & Conquer: Red Alert (PC, 1996)

25. Star Wars: X-Wing Alliance (PC, 1999)

24. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (PS1, 1997)

23. Metal Gear Solid (PS1, 1998)

22. Resident Evil ([Credited in EW to] Gamecube, 2002)

21. Everquest (PC, 1999)

20. Super Metroid (SNES, 1994)

19. Ms. Pac-Man (Arcade, 1981)

18. Soul Calibur (Dreamcast, 1998)

17. Tomb Raider (PS1, 1996)

16. Halo (Xbox, 2001)

15. Civilization II (PC, 1996)

14. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater (Multiplatform, 1999)

13. Gran Turismo (PS1, 1998)

12. Final Fantasy VII (PS1, 1997)

11. Goldeneye 007 (N64, 1997)

10. Street Fighter II (Arcade, 1991)

9. Starcraft/Warcraft (PC, 1994/1998)

8. Super Mario 64 (N64, 1996)

7. The Sims (PC, 2000)

6. Half-Life (PC, 1998)

5. Madden 2003 (Multiplatform, 2002)

4. Grand Theft Auto III (PS2, 2001)

3. Tetris (PC, 1985)

2. Doom (PC, 1993)

1. The Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past (SNES, 1991)

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Okay, the main thing that catches my eye is the placement of Everquest without any reference at all to Ultima Online, which was the predecessor for MMORPGs (although you could make the argument that Rogue, etc., and a HOST of text-only RPG's that I'm leaving out), when the rest of the list seems slanted towards the predecessors.

That being said, it's kind of hard to read the list, mainly becuse you have to mentally lump in the other games with the titles (i.e., I believe FF6 was better than FF7, but I don't have much of an issue with it, since they can just be viewed in the FF franchise at #12).

Also, Gauntlet deserved so much better. (Heck, I still play that now. )

(Edited because I have issues reading.)

(edited by TheCow on 2.5.03 1329)






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Where's Zork??

How can you have a top 100 list of all time and not include Zork? I wasted a ton of time trying to beat that game. Although there wasn't much to it. (the game itself, not the difficulty) :)

(edited by Keeper on 2.5.03 1338)

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Um, not to sound sexist or anything, but why Ms. Pac-Man and not Pac-Man? What made that a superior game?

Super Star Wars? I remember that game being REALLY hard, but good? Not so sure.

Actually, I'm not really a serious enough gamer to properly comment on all of the rankings, but they do seem way off.

But where the hell is PONG??!!

...and WWF Superstars. ;)

(edited by SchippeWreck on 2.5.03 1054)

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Ms. Pac-Man actually featured different mazes as you progressed through the game, whereas the original only increased the speed of the ghosts to raise the diffuculty.



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#6 Posted on

    Originally posted by Keeper
    Where's Zork??

    How can you have a top 100 list of all time and not include Zork?

Here (thcnet.net)



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Golden Axe! King's Quest! X-Com! Monkey Island!

I have a hard time hating these guys after they included some of my favorite games which are on so few "Best of" lists.



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I might be the only one Chris - but I am getting an error message trying to load the link you pasted.

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Wow, this feels almost dead on to me... well, except for #27: Monkey Island 2 should be replaced with Dragon's Lair, but other then that, I see nothing wrong here. Good list for once.

In fact, I would list this list as #1 for this board. Someone should post a list on 'lists' around here.



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    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
    87. Battlezone (Arcade, 1980)


Hey! I made the list!

Now, I'm curious. Maybe I missed it, but MYST wasn't on the list? I thought that was the "holy grail of gaming" for the mainstream press for a while there.

And I also think NHL '93 needs to be ranked higher if only because it was immortalized in "Swingers". Of course, maybe that's why it's ranked as high as it is. And Mario is getting JOBBED being down at 8. My top five would have been Zelda (series), Mario Bros. (series), GTA, Madden and Tetris.






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#11 Posted on

    Originally posted by CRZ

      Originally posted by Keeper
      Where's Zork??

      How can you have a top 100 list of all time and not include Zork?

    Here (thcnet.net)


Thanks, CRZ! Now I can relive those glory days and kill the last 2 hours at work.

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    Originally posted by PhilRippa
    I might be the only one Chris - but I am getting an error message trying to load the link you pasted.

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It does say "...404 Error: Now What??" in the title bar, but the game works fine for me.



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    Originally posted by Battlezone

      Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard
      87. Battlezone (Arcade, 1980)


    Hey! I made the list!

    Now, I'm curious. Maybe I missed it, but MYST wasn't on the list? I thought that was the "holy grail of gaming" for the mainstream press for a while there.

    And I also think NHL '93 needs to be ranked higher if only because it was immortalized in "Swingers". Of course, maybe that's why it's ranked as high as it is. And Mario is getting JOBBED being down at 8. My top five would have been Zelda (series), Mario Bros. (series), GTA, Madden and Tetris.



I think eventually everyone came to terms with the fact that Myst was really just pretty crap.

From the article: "NHL 93: Boys play football. Men play hockey. Sure, this sports sim's gameplay was smoother than ice after a zamboni sweep, but it was it's gladiatorial aspect that brought gap-toothed smiles to gamers' faces: most notably, the brutal checks that would turn hapless skaters into bloody hamburgers. The NHL series deserves supporting-actos credits after cameos in Swingers and Beautiful Girls, both of which make light of the game's smackdowns. (Sega Genesis, 1993)



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Why do I not remember Zork like this. The lettering is SO much bigger then it used to be on my TRS80 monitor... and for more clearer.



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that's a wild mix of arcade, console, and computer games.
not bad for a list put out for Entertainment Weekly;
I wonder if it was a poll from their subscribers?





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Which hockey game did Affleck and Lee play in Chasing Amy?

Blades of Steel or one of the NHl '9x games?

I quickly skimmed the list. Were there ANY of the Infocom games on there, like Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and Paranoia and so on? I know we mentioned Zork before, but I think I had almost all of the games they made during the late 1980s.


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The following post expresses the opinions of a raving Jerichoholic. He is biased, opinionated and bitter. You have been warned.

I don't have a problem with the series concept, if they had kept up with it. Super Mario Brothers (1 and 3) deserve this list, as do Super Mario World and Super Mario Sunshine. Put in the Super Mario series, the Zelda series and the Final Fantasy series if you don't want the top 10 being diferent games in the same series. Super Mario series is 1, Zelda series is 2 and FF series is 3. Nuff said.



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I only wish I could still play MULE. I absolutely loved that game.

X-Com at 99 is so wrong. I still play that game on my laptop. In fact, I've got a game going on right now.

And where are the SSI D&D games? Pool of Radiance on the Commodore 128 was a revolutionary experience for me. Oh well.

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I can't believe that Q-Bert isn't on that list. It's the only game my freaking father can beat me at.

What about Bubble Bobble? That has to score somewhere on that list.



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Baseball Stars? Tecmo Bowl? Tecmo Super Bowl?

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I'm a Tomb Raider fan, but that game doesn't deserve to be on this list. The cultural impact was big, but the gameplay is only above-average, not #16 good.


Wait...no Final Fantasy Tactics? Fuck this stupid list. Fuck it in its ass.



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