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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.06
AP pollsters: Florida is #1 (obvi), Utah is #2 (!!)

Much to my chagrin, USC (booo!!! hiss!!!) is #3. Perhaps to Texas' delight, they finished #4, just ahead of Oklahoma at #5.

But nobody cares about that. Utah finished #2, a little under 100 points behind Florida. Florida got 48 first place votes to Utah's 16. I still don't know how good Utah was (count me in the camp that isn't sure how motivated an extremely young Alabama team was in the Sugar Bowl) but undefeatd is undefeated. That plus the other top teams either beat up on each other or didn't finish with a bang like Utah did. It's at least a feel good story, if not perfectly representative of how good each school was.

Congrats to Florida! Congrats to Utah!

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(edited by StingArmy on 9.1.09 0533)
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I can tell you that just from this morning it will be a long time until the Texas fans let this go. Lots of "we should have been there, we could have won" talk. Bleh.

I keep telling myself it's just one more year until Tebow is gone. Was a little annoyed at the announcers forgetting his two first half interceptions and the defense bailing him out to annoit him Mr. Perfect at the end but that's probably just the FSU fan in me. Which also causes me to hope next season the Tebow love fest takes a Leinhart turn where they spend his final year picking at his flaws. Not that it'll keep him from winning another title.

Ugh.

So in year one of the BCS people looking at if any conference deserves to be dumped in favor of another, the ACC needs to be careful and the Big East is in deep trouble. Three more years though so we'll see.
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    Originally posted by wmatistic
    I can tell you that just from this morning it will be a long time until the Texas fans let this go. Lots of "we should have been there, we could have won" talk. Bleh.

They now know exactly how undefeated SEC champion Auburn felt the year they got screwed in favor of this same Oklahoma team, which proceeded to get flattened into a doormat by USC. Texas has every right to bitch and moan until the Big 12 fixes their tiebreaker system so that it's in line with everyone else and no one else has to suffer the injustice they suffered.



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Or they could just not lose to Texas Tech.
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Well, like I heard someone else say, if Texas hates the BCS so much, they can decline to accept a spot in a BCS Bowl. If you're so mad, put your money where your mouth is, give up your share of the $13 million payout, and go play at the Cotton Bowl.

Anything less than that is just lip service.
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Speaking of polls, I was looking ahead to next season to think about who might be ranked where and saw a bunch of schedules to see who has a good shot at the title. Gotta say, Penn State is losing some players but look at this:

09/05 - Akron
09/12 - Syracuse
09/19 - Temple
09/26 - Iowa
10/03 - @ Illinois
10/10 - Eastern Illinois
10/17 - Minnesota
10/24 - @ Michigan
10/31 - @ Northwestern
11/07 - Ohio State
11/14 - Indiana
11/21 - @ Michigan State

Four away games? FOUR? OOC of Akron, Syracuse, Temple and E. Illinois? Just unreal. Guess I can forget about Bowden passing Joe Pa in wins next year.

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by wmatistic

    Four away games? FOUR? OOC of Akron, Syracuse, Temple and E. Illinois? Just unreal. Guess I can forget about Bowden passing Joe Pa in wins next year.




Well Syracuse and Temple are easy to explain. Syracuse used to be a rival. Except for 1943, they played every year from 1922 to 1990 and they want to renew it. They signed a two year home-and-home and this is the 2nd game in the renewal.

Temple and PSU are in-state schools and have played each other alot over the years, 38 times since 1931. Temple has not won since 1941, though. They will play each other until 2012.





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    Originally posted by Texas Kelly
      Originally posted by wmatistic
      I can tell you that just from this morning it will be a long time until the Texas fans let this go. Lots of "we should have been there, we could have won" talk. Bleh.

    They now know exactly how undefeated SEC champion Auburn felt the year they got screwed in favor of this same Oklahoma team, which proceeded to get flattened into a doormat by USC.


Not really. Auburn won their conference's regular season, conference championship went undefeated and played in a conference where going undefeated would normally gurantee a spot in the Championship game. Texas finished 2nd in their division, didn't even go to the conference championship and lost a game. Maybe they got screwed on the Big 12 tiebreaker but I don't think they have as much beef as Auburn did.

Is there not a rule about having a certain amount of road games? Maybe I just assumed that because I think you have to have six road games in the NCAA Football video game.

Florida's schedule might not be as easy as Penn State, but it is defintiely easier than this past year. Miami, Hawaii and Ole Miss come off the board and Charleston Southern, Troy and the other Mississippi school come on the schedule. Georgia loses Stafford and Moreno, Tennessee probably won't be back by next year.

Of course this is nice to talk about but upsets always happen now. Who thought Penn State and Florida would lose to the teams they lost to this year?

(edited by Quezzy on 9.1.09 1407)


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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by Quezzy


    Is there not a rule about having a certain amount of road games? Maybe I just assumed that because I think you have to have six road games in the NCAA Football video game.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_I

The relevant parts are:


    The method by which the NCAA determines whether a school is Bowl or Championship subdivision is first by attendance numbers and then by scholarships. Although scholarships are only one of several methods for the NCAA to determine if they have some form of financial backing for the program they do look at attendance as an additional key consideration.

    For attendance they either will allow the tickets sold or the number of actual people attending the season games as reporting methods. They require a minimum of 15,000 people in attendance for each home game as an average every other year. These numbers get posted to the NCAA statistics website for football each year. In the 2005 football season 14 schools were listed with an average below 15,000. With the new rules starting in the 2006 season, the amount of Bowl subdivision schools could drop in the near future if those schools are not able to pull in enough fans into the games. Additionally, 8 schools in the Championship subdivision had enough attendance to be moved up in 2005.


And:


    The NCAA has also pushed for Division I FBS schools to be forced to schedule a minimum number of home games each season and meet attendance requirements for those games (see above). This has met with resistance from smaller conferences, whose schools often receive large amounts of money to play road games against schools from the BCS conferences.


Emphasis mine. I remember reading somewhere that the minimum is six home games.



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    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
    Well, like I heard someone else say, if Texas hates the BCS so much, they can decline to accept a spot in a BCS Bowl. If you're so mad, put your money where your mouth is, give up your share of the $13 million payout, and go play at the Cotton Bowl.

    Anything less than that is just lip service.


You're going to have to tell me how this makes any sense. Texas gets the same cut from the Fiesta Bowl as Baylor, and the BCS isn't why they weren't in the championship game - it's because the Big XII used the BCS standings as their tiebreaker AND Oklahoma beat Missouri for the Big XII title.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.55
Penn State's also working (mcall.com) with ESPN to get out of that October game with Eastern Illinois and bring in (rumored) an ACC opponent. Here's hoping for Maryland in the spirit of bringing back more traditional rivalries. Zeruel - we'll have to teach you how to tailgate for that one. ;)



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by StegDutchie
    Penn State's also working (mcall.com) with ESPN to get out of that October game with Eastern Illinois and bring in (rumored) an ACC opponent. Here's hoping for Maryland in the spirit of bringing back more traditional rivalries. Zeruel - we'll have to teach you how to tailgate for that one. ;)


Oh, I'm hoping it's a PSU-MD game. If it's up in PA, I'll make the road trip up there, for sure. It's only what, a 2-3 hour drive, at worst?



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.28
    Originally posted by Zeruel
      Originally posted by StegDutchie
      Penn State's also working (mcall.com) with ESPN to get out of that October game with Eastern Illinois and bring in (rumored) an ACC opponent. Here's hoping for Maryland in the spirit of bringing back more traditional rivalries. Zeruel - we'll have to teach you how to tailgate for that one. ;)


    Oh, I'm hoping it's a PSU-MD game. If it's up in PA, I'll make the road trip up there, for sure. It's only what, a 2-3 hour drive, at worst?


from where you are (presumably)? probably something like that, up 83 or 81.



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Penn State/UMD would be a dream come true for me personally, as my grandpa grew up right outside of PSU so they are my second favorite team.

I am glad Utah got 2nd place in the AP, and I heard a good point on one of the sports shows. The more mid major teams do this, the more chances they will have to be higher ranked coming into the next season, and therefore they'll have an easier chance of jumping into the top rankings quicker.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
    Originally posted by odessasteps


    from where you are (presumably)? probably something like that, up 83 or 81.


In Montgomery County, MD (I refuse to call it "MoCo" like the kids are doing these days). South of Burtonsville, north of downtown Silver Spring/Colesville. Closest main roads are 198/28 and 650.

I have a friend in Gettysburgh and I'd take I-270 to 15 just straight up. We'd head to the PSU campus from there sometimes to find a party to crash. That was at least a decade ago.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.28
    Originally posted by Zeruel
      Originally posted by odessasteps


      from where you are (presumably)? probably something like that, up 83 or 81.


    In Montgomery County, MD (I refuse to call it "MoCo" like the kids are doing these days). South of Burtonsville, north of downtown Silver Spring/Colesville. Closest main roads are 198/28 and 650.

    I have a friend in Gettysburgh and I'd take I-270 to 15 just straight up. We'd head to the PSU campus from there sometimes to find a party to crash. That was at least a decade ago.


I was guessing off the top of head. From our end of the state, we go 222 to Lancaster and take 283 to Harrisburg and go from there.



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I hate the kill the Penn State vs. Maryland love, but if it is a Made for ESPN game it would more likely be the renewal of the Miami rivalry from the late 80's, or ESPN banking on Butch Davis' North Carolina team going to the next level in '09. Looking at the schedules Miami has Oklahoma and South Florida, so they probably won't add another tough game. North Carolina still has an open space and the need for a marquee non-conference game. Maryland has at Cal and home for the State University of New Jersey, so they probably would keep their 2 home 'buy' games.
If you wanted to go off the board with an odd ball SEC Team to try to make a nice price off of, Ole Miss could be a nice play. They have 2 non-conference opponents TBA, SE Louisiana and UAB at home as the other non conference, and the conference schedule of Alabama, LSU, Tennessee and Arkansas at home, while the road portion would be at Vandy, South Carolina, Auburn and Miss. State.
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Miami's schedule is likely to get switched up as the conference is pushing hard on them and FSU to play on Labor day again. I know Bowden really doesn't want to since that would mean playing Miami, BYU and USF in a row, but he seemed resigned to it happening anyway.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.42
    Originally posted by Psycho Penguin
    Penn State/UMD would be a dream come true for me personally, as my grandpa grew up right outside of PSU so they are my second favorite team.

    I am glad Utah got 2nd place in the AP, and I heard a good point on one of the sports shows. The more mid major teams do this, the more chances they will have to be higher ranked coming into the next season, and therefore they'll have an easier chance of jumping into the top rankings quicker.


And the quicker the "I told you sos" will come out when they stumble. Teams like Utah and Boise State have proven they aren't flukes but it will take a long time to change mindsets.



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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
    Originally posted by StegDutchie
    Here's hoping for Maryland in the spirit of bringing back more traditional rivalries.
That would be awesome. Maryland can beat Penn State on the road, and then lose to Eastern Michigan or some team like we usually do...
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