I was listening to Carson Daly's radio show briefly (man that Sk8er Boi song is really starting to irritate) and he had an interesting spin on what happened at the VMA's. Carson was saying that according to Moby he wasn't booing Em, and he sat in his seat and didn't do anything when Em won the award. But, Robert Schmigel, the mind and voice behind Triumph the insult comic dog WAS booing. And that Eminem actually was talking to HIM when he said he wasn't afraid to hit someone wearing glasses (Schmigel was wearing glasses at the time).
Also, it was interesting to see Eminem push Triumph (I didn't see this on the replays as it was edited out, but it was replayed later on Conan) later in the show right after his interview with Moby.
Personally, I hope it was Schmigel, because there's no way Em can win. Triumph, in my mind, is funnier than Eminem and I don't know if there's anyway to outdo Schmigel's humor with the puppet.
Thoughts?
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Well, you know that Eminem is actually a really great guy. He's a really funny guy, too, and a wonderful musical artist...
FOR ME TO POOP ON!
OK, I've made the obvious joke, so now I can talk seriously. For real, when was the last time Eminem had a positive word to say about anybody except Dr. Dre? Can anybody remember the last time Eminem was nice to anyone? Hell, he probably walks into Starbucks and yells at the girl behind the desk to “get me my fucking coffee, you stupid whore.” So knowing that... does anybody really give a flying shit what Eminem has to say?
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He was also responsible for the TV Funhouse series on Comedy Central a couple of years ago. That's way funnier than most of the crap on Comedy Central today, with the exception of South Park.
Triumph was on Conan the other night to give his side of the story - He said that Eminem needs to mellow out and realize all he has, like a great career and smooth white hair (like a beagle's nutsack). His mother was a bitch, too, but you don't see him writing a million songs about it. He also pointed out that the media needs to be less hard on Eminem - he's just another poor white guy trying to make an honest living by stealing black people's music.
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"He was also responsible for the TV Funhouse series on Comedy Central a couple of years ago. That's way funnier than most of the crap on Comedy Central today, with the exception of South Park."
While I enjoyed the show's premise and the ani-pals (sort of), the little interludes were awfully unfunny. The baby, old man, and stoned guy cartoon was stupid. Ditto for the cartoon about Anne Heche and Margot Kidder. And the one semi-funny skit, the nmemonics game, got overexposed. Oh yeah, and the terribly offensive Christmas episode was another reason that I was glad to see the end of that show.
I do dig most of Robert Smigel's skits and ideas, from Triumph to his impersonations of Bill Clinton on Conan.
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Okay, so I was just watching the Conan replay, which shows the incident in question, as well as Triumph's press conference. After watching that and then reading this thread, I can't help but think about the following:
So Eminem freaked out when approached by Smigel/Triumph. Couldn't deal with it. Had his posse back him up, and pushed him away. Triumph/Smigel has a nationwide forum to shoot back in Conan's show. And if Eminem writes something to shoot back at Triumph, he's rapping about a fucking puppet...
Is it just me, or has Eminem already lost this feud? XD
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Maybe Eminem can title his next album Fuck Triumph or something to that end - that way, people will think he's ripping on Wu-Tang when in fact he's dogging a puppet.
He was also responsible for the TV Funhouse series on Comedy Central a couple of years ago. That's way funnier than most of the crap on Comedy Central today, with the exception of South Park.
if you have seen Happy Gilmore, he plays the dude who is going to auction of granny's house.
"You hate me don't you?" "No, I don't hate you, why would I hate you?" Happy throws him outta the house "Yeah, he hates me."
that guy.
"Smeg off, Hymen." Dave Lister from Red Dwarf "The Nazis had pieces of hymen that they made the Jews wear." Peter Gibbons from Office Space "What's the name of the cat?" "Annoying Hymen." Randel Graves from Clerks showing off his people skills
You know Carson is trying to spin this so he still has juice with both Moby and Marshall... yet dis Smigel in the process. No problem. Conan's already gone to bat twice for Rob and the puppet.
Now, Conan exaggerated the incident a bit, but that's nothing -- Eminem didn't want to be made fun of on national television... but he can slander his wife and mother. Gotcha.
To the red carpet; the line he made about the Olsen Twins being legal in dog years was classic... but you know some of that was completely voice-overed in post.
"I only wish Eminem could relax and enjoy all he has: his unique talent, and his smooth white hair, which brings to mind a beagle's nutsack. He should lighten up...I mean, my mom was a bitch too, but I don't go writing songs about it." --Triumph, The Insult Comic Dog
I just think that it is just hilarious that a supposed bad-ass rapper from the streets is in a feud with a freakin' puppet! Isn't street credibility a big thing with these rappers? How the hell can Eminem keep credibility by wanting to kick a puppet's ass??? Surely with this, Eminem has taken a huge step toward Vanilla Ice-land.
How is Eminem in a "feud" with the puppet? From the accounts I read it seemed like he didn't want to deal with the puppet guy and pushed the puppet away. They can go on Conan all they want and make jokes about Eminem to get their puppet over, and get laughs from the studio audience, but that hardly constitutes a "feud". Or this just a case of Eminem haters drinking gallons of jealousy juice and making a mountain out of a mole hill? As a fan of both individuals I'm a little disappointed that Eminem didn't have a better sense of humor about that trash talking dog. But he didn't. So what? And then he pushed Triumph away. WOW, what a feud!
Originally posted by MedallaGuy As for Eminem...your clock is right now at about 13 minutes and a half...and time is ticking away my friend.
Voice from shadows:WE SHALL SEE!
Seriously I think he's inadvertantly put himself in a make or break situation with his movie. I'm rooting for both him and Triumph to continue pissing celebrities off for my enjoyment.
"ASSHOLE! ASSHOLE! ASSHOLE! ASSHOLE!" Triumph to Simon Cowl
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"As a fan of both individuals I'm a little disappointed that Eminem didn't have a better sense of humor about that trash talking dog. But he didn't. So what?"
You have to remember that he did this on a show that walloped everyone else in the Cable ratings, plus provided the best ratings for an VMA show in its history (even tho' 24f sucks monkey balls).
You push away a puppet on national TV. If you can dish it out, Marshall, you certainly can take it. No?
"I only wish Eminem could relax and enjoy all he has: his unique talent, and his smooth white hair, which brings to mind a beagle's nutsack. He should lighten up...I mean, my mom was a bitch too, but I don't go writing songs about it." --Triumph, The Insult Comic Dog
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