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As a dedicated Giants fan I usually have a lot of disagreements with decisions and choices that are made with the team. However I did agree with the choice of taking in Eli Manning, despite the fact that he wasn't that great through the second half of the season. The rest of the team did seem strong though, with the exception of Strahan's pec injury. Coughlin has definitely made a huge improvement to the teams ability and spirit. I think its a definite possibility that Manning will improve through the off-season and possibly lead the team to a much needed playoff game. Who knows, maybe in two more seasons, a superbowl?
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The Giants need a big play wide receiver. They are extremely lacking in that departmnet.
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Well, let me give a shout out to the best independent football website on the internet, footballoutsiders.com . The site's founder, Aaron Schatz, did some work with similarity scores (trying to figure whose careers are most similar up to a certain point). He's said that he feels that Eli's ceiling is at about Testaverde or Bledsoe level. In other words, he may make the Pro Bowl a few times, but probably not an All-Pro or a dominant QB like Peyton is or anything like that. Obviously, no one can be sure right now, but Aaron predicted that the Chargers would be much improved this last offseason, which I didn't see anyone else predict, so I'm going to at least respect his opinion.

EDIT: And I'd be very worried in the way they seemed to quit on Tom Caughlin at the end of the year (went from a 4-1 start to a 6-10 finish).

(edited by Mr. Boffo on 20.2.05 2158)


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#4 Posted on
    Originally posted by Mayhem

    The Giants need a big play wide receiver. They are extremely lacking in that departmnet.


Considering that the Giants didn't have a TD reception by a wide receiver until the LAST GAME OF THE SEASON, a WR with a PULSE will do for now...



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Though this pertains more to Kurt Warner than Eli Manning, I did find this interesting (if it's true, but since it's John Clayton, I'm willing to trust the source). Not a good sign for the Giants' WR corps, though Amani Toomer was having a decent few seasons.

Scroll down to "Impressed with Warner" (sports.espn.go.com)



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As a Giants fan, I despised the Manning trade when they made it, and yet somehow I hate it even more as time has passed. Way too much was given up for a QB who wasn't the best QB in the draft, and might not have been the 2nd or 3rd best either. The Giants should have traded down, picked up extra picks instead of giving up picks in last year's and this year's draft and gone from there. Collins had 1 year left on his contract, see if he could have a huge year in his walk year and take their chances that he had one of his good years. Worst case scenario, he comes off the books and they have a high pick for a 2nd straight year.
To be fair though, the Manning decision wasn't the worst they made last year. Hiring Coughlin was. I kept pleading to bring in Crennel and go back to the Giants Parcellian/Belichickian defensive success, but Wellington Mara fell in love with Coughlin because he was a BC coach in the early 90's and always wanted him. The organization has never been the same since the departure of George Young.

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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.25
    Originally posted by RageRockrr
    Though this pertains more to Kurt Warner than Eli Manning, I did find this interesting (if it's true, but since it's John Clayton, I'm willing to trust the source). Not a good sign for the Giants' WR corps, though Amani Toomer was having a decent few seasons.

    Scroll down to "Impressed with Warner" (sports.espn.go.com)


I kinda agree. I think Warner looked fairly decent when he played. Oh wait, when talking about a player, you must start with "Here's a guy...", so let's try that again.

Here's a guy who when he has good wide receivers and a decent offensive line, can put up huge numbers. Sure that would help every QB, but I think he could be great again if he can find a team that has those two things. He can still pass, he just holds the ball too damn long.

As for the Giants, um yeah they need some good WR. Lucky for them the Skins are dumping Coles. They should jump on him and draft someone else.
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