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I'm not sure what's more amusing, the fact that this "accidentally" happened or the fact that in true Clintonian fashion, nobody would take responsibility:
    Originally posted by Brian Bakst/AP
    An unknown Minnesota Democrat earned a footnote in history Monday by casting one of the state's 10 Electoral College votes for John Edwards, the Democratic vice presidential running mate for John Kerry.

    The Edwards vote gives Minnesota its first "faithless elector," the dubious name for Electoral College members who snub the candidate who won the state's popular vote in the general election. Kerry, who beat President Bush in Minnesota but lost overall, wound up with nine of the state's electoral votes.

    No one claimed credit for the Edwards vote. Several electors said they suspected that someone unconsciously mixed up the two Johns on the ticket rather than purposefully made a political statement.

    "If it was meant to be a protest-type vote I would be up front and say, 'This is how I voted,' " elector Frank Simon of Chaska said. "It doesn't seem like anyone is coming forth to say that."

    Added elector Michael Meuers of Bemidji: "I'm certainly glad that the Electoral College is not separated by one vote."

    Bush is due to receive 286 electoral votes; Kerry was slated to get 252, but the Minnesota vote will reduce that total. It takes 270 votes to win the presidency.

    Electors around the country meet in state capitals on the same day to vote. Democrats made up the Minnesota slate because Kerry received 1,445,014 votes to Bush's 1,346,695 in November.

    Minnesota's voting began shortly after noon. Electors wrote their candidate's name on an 8-by-11-inch sheet of paper and put the ballots in a pine box. Once all votes were in, Secretary of State Mary Kiffmeyer and an aide pulled them out, counted them and announced the total. A tally sheet was sent to Congress, which announces nationwide totals in January.

    It may never be known who cast the Edwards ballot. The ballots aren't signed.

    In response to public information requests, Kiffmeyer's office released copies of the ballots along with other documents bearing signatures of the electors. Some electors had distinguishable handwriting, but comparisons involving the Edwards ballot were inconclusive.

    Kiffmeyer, a Republican, said she was shocked to see the Edwards vote when counting the ballots. She also thought that it was in error.

    "It just shows the humanness of the process," she said. Even if an elector came forward to admit a mistake, it is too late to change the ballot, she said.

    Edwards received all 10 Minnesota votes for vice president in a separate round of balloting.


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Two straight elections that a Democratic elector bolted. I guess D.C. Democrats didn't keep the person who refused to vote for Gore in '00.
And, whatever happened to the mayor in West Virginia who stated before the election that if Bush won West Virginia, he, as an elector, would not vote for Bush. I guess he was just looking for his 15 minutes of fame, as even in an election where his bolting would have no impact, he didn't have to balls to follow through on his statement.
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    Originally posted by Grimis
    I'm not sure what's more amusing, the fact that this "accidentally" happened or the fact that in true Clintonian fashion, nobody would take responsibility
Visit today's follow-up (to yesterday's news, har har) in the Mpls. Star Tribune and maybe you'll see that there doesn't appear to be anything sinister or deserving of "ironic" "quotes" about this development. It appears to be an honest mistake, and perhaps no one stepped up because no one remembers actually doing it. Give those dudes a break, they're old!
    Originally posted by Dane Smith, Mpls. Star Tribune
    One of the 10 handwritten ballots cast for president carried the name of vice presidential candidate John Edwards (actually spelled "Ewards" on the ballot) rather than Kerry. ...

    There was stunned silence after the announcement that Edwards had gotten a vote for president, but none of the 10 electors volunteered that they voted for Edwards as a protest, nor did anyone step forward to admit an error.

    "It was perhaps a senior moment," said elector Michael Meuers, 60, a Bemidji marketing consultant for a health care firm, the second-youngest member of the Minnesota delegation to the Electoral College.

    Meuers said he was certain that the Edwards ballot wasn't his, but he noted that "both the candidates were named John, and the ballots looked pretty much alike."

    This year's DFL Party electors were typical -- senior party activists typically chosen for their long years of service. They ranged in age from 52 to 83.

    "These are not paid political professionals," said Bill Amberg, the DFL Party's communications director. "It was clear that everybody thought they had voted for Kerry, and all 10 of these folks were for Kerry during the pre-nomination period. There is no sign of protest."


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I am chuckling because as old as I am..I just became citizen and it's my 1st time voting. Kudos to all that believe in the value of their vote. It's pretty cool to have a say in your government! thks Guru for the thread! what a thrilling thing to do!...
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