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I've googled around a bit and it looks like you can't -- not in iTunes, at least.

Is there a way to convert or import a track in another format and trim it in a different program? And what program would that be? I'm using a PC, by the way.

(There's a song that has a minute of silence after it to hide the following "secret track," and I'd like to cut that minute out.)

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--K



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Download Audacity (search Google for it - it's on Sourceforge). You can open mp3 files or wav files or turn one into the other if you have the correct codecs installed. Search for LAME mp3 if you need codecs.

I don't think you can do AAC but who knows, they are always improving the software.

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    Originally posted by Guru Zim
    If someone else gets the link, post it here.
Here's the link: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

They also have a LAME encoder library (although I'm not sure what that means) for exporting MP3s at that site.

Oosh! It seems like such a simple thing, I dunno why iTunes doesn't have some sort of deal set up already.

Now I'm off to try and figure out how it works.

Thanks, GZ!

--K

***EDIT: That was super easy! I downloaded Audacity and the LAME MP3 Encoder, then used Windows Media Player to pull the track off the CD as an MP3. I opened up the track in Audacity, trimmed the end, exported the MP3 to my desktop, and then imported it into iTunes (renaming it "Song Title (short version)" to eliminate any confusion. Cool!

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Yeah, that works. You've got a quality issue there a little bit by doing mp3 encoding twice. You could also download CDex (also from Sourceforge.net) and convert the CD into a .wav file, snip your length, and then encode the file once.



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I thought I only did mp3 encoding once, when I ripped the track the first time -- when I brought it into iTunes, it was AAC(?). Or does Audacity encode it again when I export it?

The CD sounds fine when just listening to it, but I haven't A/B'd it with the original.

I always feel like I should be more concerned about quality, but I don't think my ears are good enough to really tell. ...I'll go look at CDex.

Thanks again,
--K



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There is a way to do this in iTunes, but it's not really editing the track.

When you click "Get Info" on a track and go to "Options", you can specify at what point on the track you want the "Start Time" and "Stop Time" to be. So you could add the track to your library twice, set the "Start Time" and "Stop Time" to just cover the first song on the first copy, then set the "Start Time" and "Stop Time" to just cover the secret track on the second copy. Then you can rename the second track the secret track's actual title.

The whole tracks will still be there, but iTunes will just play the part of it you wish to be played.

(I ASSUME that carries over to the iPod, but I don't have my iPod with me to test that theory.)
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I did that with a Pennywise song that has an extra part on it as the last track on the CD. The song length shows up as 23:57 on ITunes but stops playing at 5:15 where I marked it. I can see wanting to edit the file itself if free space is an issue, but for a few songs here and there changing the stop time takes just a few clicks.





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The only problem with that approach is that I'll stick these songs on my iPod and they'll eat up space. Fortunately, I think iTMS makes hidden tracks separate (I know they did with M.I.A.'s Arular), so all I have to do is re-rip them as WAV's, edit, and import. I haven't bought anything wherre that would be an issue, thankfully.



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Sweet. I'm making a CD for playing at work, so the space issue doesn't concern me.

I honestly don't understand why anyone is still including "mystery tracks" on their albums. An extra song is one thing -- but the two minutes of silence before it is REALLY ANNOYING.

Sure, it was pretty cool ten or fifteen years ago or whenever it was first done, but what's the point anymore?

--K



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