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#41 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.47
http://www.nuttercenter.com/

The Nutter Center in Dayton is listing their June 7th date as "WWE and See No Evil Presents WWE vs. ECW Head-to-Head."



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#42 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.32
Im not here to discuss whether or not this is gonna succeed, not because I havent speculated- but its been covered here already.

Ok... my insane RVD fandom speaking again but what if RVD, holding the IC and WWE titles, enters the newly formed ECW to also win that championship in a tournament. For a while, he could be taking all contenders for his three titles and getting away with some impressive wins. I mean sure, we're not all RVD fans here- but isnt it time that the WWE builds another mega-star -I dont wanna say to carry the company, but to generate even more interest?- Think about it, having RVD on top opens a pretty fresh can of booking. Eventually Rob could get screwed out of the WWE championship by Triple H or Edge (heel Cena?), somehow lose the IC, but still remain full time on the main event picture of ECW (Which Im hoping gets off the ground).

On another note, I think it would be unspeakably awesome if Mick Foley was to eventually become ECW champ, even if his reing only lasted a month, but meh... I can only dream.
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#43 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.92
    Originally posted by flairforthegold13
    Have an ECW brand tour the country, release DVDs and run quarterly PPVS and you're going to make a tidy profit and generate some great buzz for Corporate.

    I don't think they indend to make the new ECW the number 1 or number 2 company in wrestling. This is a farm team revival to cash in on merch and to give guys opportunity (and it also keeps Happy Heyman in the fold.)


Ding Ding....We have a winner. This, to me, is the only way ECW can really work within the WWE world. Don't go overboard trying to shove it down our throat. In this case, more exposure is worse...meaning if they put it on WWE.com or try to get us to show up to Raw or SD early to catch the "preliminary ECW show". Keep it small. It preserves the integrity of the brand and won't force fans to see it as "part of WWE". Just throw it a bone (read: commercial/announcement) once in a while on WWE TV, pimp the DVD's, house shows, PPV's, Merch....and watch a nice little side flow of money start coming in. Once they start trying to make it "big", as if it's a comparable brand to WWE, it'll lose what makes it unique in the first place.
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#44 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
    Originally posted by FurryHippie
      Originally posted by flairforthegold13
      Have an ECW brand tour the country, release DVDs and run quarterly PPVS and you're going to make a tidy profit and generate some great buzz for Corporate.

      I don't think they indend to make the new ECW the number 1 or number 2 company in wrestling. This is a farm team revival to cash in on merch and to give guys opportunity (and it also keeps Happy Heyman in the fold.)


    Ding Ding....We have a winner. This, to me, is the only way ECW can really work within the WWE world. Don't go overboard trying to shove it down our throat. In this case, more exposure is worse...meaning if they put it on WWE.com or try to get us to show up to Raw or SD early to catch the "preliminary ECW show". Keep it small. It preserves the integrity of the brand and won't force fans to see it as "part of WWE". Just throw it a bone (read: commercial/announcement) once in a while on WWE TV, pimp the DVD's, house shows, PPV's, Merch....and watch a nice little side flow of money start coming in. Once they start trying to make it "big", as if it's a comparable brand to WWE, it'll lose what makes it unique in the first place.


What wrestler in their right mind would want to work for the promotion you're describing? If you're RVD, in WWE, finally getting a hint of main event exposure on national television, why the hell would you want to leave that to go be "champion" of a "promotion" that about two dozen people would even know existed? With this scenario, the only people who are going to want to participate are the ones who have nothing better to do (aka, the people they've announced thus far), and in those cases, there's a reason those people have nothing better to do. Balls Mahoney? Sandman? ECW might as well stay dead and buried if this is what the WWE is going to offer.
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#45 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.80
Honestly, a 3rd rate ECW is about equal stature with TNA, and actually probably a little more financially viable, so it would be an attractive option for plenty of guys.
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#46 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.12
WWE's got a slot of TV time at 2 a.m. every Saturday night for their recap show that is consistantly drawing 1.0-1.2 ratings. That's pretty much a perfect spot to drop in an ECW show. Go with the TNA taping schedule, send the guys to a smallish arena once a month with a minimalist production set-up (to cut costs and maintain the ECW flavor) tape three hours of matches and one hour of promos, and you've got a whole month's worth of ECW shows, which, given that apparently at least a million people are watching wrestling at 2 a.m. on a Saturday anyway, would probably draw a decent rating every week.

I can understand, say, RVD being gunshy at doing a full on ECW reunion (but I think he will, because I think that nostalgia trumps anything WWE might offer him, in his mind), but for some of the lower card and even some midcard guys, that would be a godsend.



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#47 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.24
    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    What wrestler in their right mind would want to work for the promotion you're describing? If you're RVD, in WWE, finally getting a hint of main event exposure on national television, why the hell would you want to leave that to go be "champion" of a "promotion" that about two dozen people would even know existed?


Christian was in that exact position and didn't seem to have a problem making that decision. There's also plenty of other guys that either TNA has or that have decided to go work in Japan or something because they prefer being big fish in a small pond rather than minnows begging Triple H for five minutes on tv (while the announcers talk about Triple H).


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#48 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.92
    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      Originally posted by FurryHippie
        Originally posted by flairforthegold13
        Have an ECW brand tour the country, release DVDs and run quarterly PPVS and you're going to make a tidy profit and generate some great buzz for Corporate.

        I don't think they indend to make the new ECW the number 1 or number 2 company in wrestling. This is a farm team revival to cash in on merch and to give guys opportunity (and it also keeps Happy Heyman in the fold.)


      Ding Ding....We have a winner. This, to me, is the only way ECW can really work within the WWE world. Don't go overboard trying to shove it down our throat. In this case, more exposure is worse...meaning if they put it on WWE.com or try to get us to show up to Raw or SD early to catch the "preliminary ECW show". Keep it small. It preserves the integrity of the brand and won't force fans to see it as "part of WWE". Just throw it a bone (read: commercial/announcement) once in a while on WWE TV, pimp the DVD's, house shows, PPV's, Merch....and watch a nice little side flow of money start coming in. Once they start trying to make it "big", as if it's a comparable brand to WWE, it'll lose what makes it unique in the first place.


    What wrestler in their right mind would want to work for the promotion you're describing? If you're RVD, in WWE, finally getting a hint of main event exposure on national television, why the hell would you want to leave that to go be "champion" of a "promotion" that about two dozen people would even know existed? With this scenario, the only people who are going to want to participate are the ones who have nothing better to do (aka, the people they've announced thus far), and in those cases, there's a reason those people have nothing better to do. Balls Mahoney? Sandman? ECW might as well stay dead and buried if this is what the WWE is going to offer.


Say you're a professional wrestler. There's pretty much two (or three) options: Vince, TNA (+Indies), Japan (if you can hack it in that style). I doubt only "two dozen" people would know about ECW, assuming they did the proper advertising on WWE TV. I just think it would be smart to keep them separate.

Remember, they're still under the WWE Umbrella, even if it is "ECW". I'm sure there's tons of wrestlers who would rather wrestle for a secure company under Vince's umbrella than to take their chances in ROH, TNA, or other indies where the pay and security is much smaller. These guys are businessmen, after all. More money to work for a new ECW than in TNA or ROH? Could possibly sound interesting to some people.

RVD is the exception in this whole thing, because he's the only guy who is on the verge of main eventing in WWE, and also would be main eventing in ECW. Most of the other stars of ECW wouldn't be plucked out of the WWE main event scene, and one can argue the change can be fresh for those wrestlers.

I also think you're underestimating the powerful following this "small promotion" can have, if booked correctly. And of course, that's the whole gamble. Remember, the idea is to keep it small in SIZE, not impact. Fans will get behind it as long as it keeps the integrity of ECW (which remains to be seen).

Edit - not godd speeling.

(edited by FurryHippie on 27.4.06 2345)
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#49 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.53
I agree that a lot of wrestlers would want the "security" (if you want to call it that) of working for a big company such as WWE.

But how many of the ECW guys are still going to go "all out" knowing that if they get injured they may be released?



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#50 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.62
What would your ECW roster look like?

Some people I'd like to see work ECW... first WWE wrestlers:

Orlando Jordan
Rob Conway
Candice Michelle
Victoria
Val Venis
John Cena
Umaga
Charlie Haas
Eugene
Scotty 2 Hotty
Sylvan

The Sandman
MIkey Whipwreck
Steven Richards
Mike Awesome
Steve Corino
New Jack
Justin Credible
Danny Doring
Roadkill
Shane Douglas
Tommy Dreamer
Terry Funk
Balls Mahoney
New Jack
Nova
Sabu
Lance Storm
Super Crazy
Rob Van Dam
Tajiri
Little Guido
Big Vito
Cactus Jack
Beaulah
Francine
Jazz
Chris Chetti
Dawn Marie
Masato Tanaka

But I'd like to see the "new" ECW limit alot of the older dudes, set up the alumni they DO sign as faces and then throw in a bunch of crazy and cool indy wrestlers as the NEXT GENERATION of hardcore/high flying/no extremes wrestlers like:


American Dragon
Sexxxy Eddy
Super Dragon
Necro Butcher
Chrid Hero
Claudio Castagnoli
Brain Damage
Eddie Kingston
Human Tornado
Prince Nana
Nigel McGuiness
Tedy Hart
Harry Smith
American Balloon
Crazy J and Lotus
Josh Ambercrombie
Glenn Spectre
Scorpio Sky
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Yoshihiro Takayama
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Sean O'Haire

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Cheerleader Melissa
IWA-MS girls (Ms Chif, Mickie Knuckles, Daizee Haze, etc.)
Mercedes Menendez
LuFisto
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Ayako Hamada
Mariko Yoshida
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#51 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.10
I got my hopes up for nothing. This is gonna suck. At least for now-

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I don't think Vince is really giving this a chance. It is just something to pull away people from TNA for another sip of Heyman's Kool-Aid.


(edited by Jackson on 28.4.06 1556)

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#52 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.90
    Originally posted by Ffej
    http://www.nuttercenter.com/

    The Nutter Center in Dayton is listing their June 7th date as "WWE and See No Evil Presents WWE vs. ECW Head-to-Head."



wwe.com is now listing it:

The USA Network will get extreme on Wednesday night, June 7, when it brings to you WWE vs. ECW Head to Head. This two-hour special will feature Superstars from RAW, SmackDown and ECW and will originate from the Nutter Center in Dayton, OH. To charge tickets by phone, call (937) 228-2323.



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#53 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
    Originally posted by Tribal Prophet
      Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      What wrestler in their right mind would want to work for the promotion you're describing? If you're RVD, in WWE, finally getting a hint of main event exposure on national television, why the hell would you want to leave that to go be "champion" of a "promotion" that about two dozen people would even know existed?


    Christian was in that exact position and didn't seem to have a problem making that decision. There's also plenty of other guys that either TNA has or that have decided to go work in Japan or something because they prefer being big fish in a small pond rather than minnows begging Triple H for five minutes on tv (while the announcers talk about Triple H).


    Tribal Prophet


First of all, Christian had just about hit the top of his potential in that WWE run. He wasn't going any further up the card any time soon. This is pretty much the exact opposite of where RVD seems to be right now.

Furthermore, TNA is NOT comparable to the version of ECW FurryHippie was endorsing that I said would not work. He was suggesting an ECW promotion that has no television deal. Now it's being reported that WWE is going with s promotion that will depend entirely on WWE's advertising and Web site to get exposure. This is an infinitely bigger risk for RVD than it was for Christian, who was going to a company that HAD a television deal, was already running PPVs and had established its own independent name in the industry. Of course, RVD always has WWE to fall back on if "ECW" fails (again), but this could do a lot of damage to his current build up (and, to be fair, it could also make him an even bigger star if everything goes well).

And I think everyone is kidding themselves if they think WWE is going to give this several years to develop like a real startup "promotion" would need. The exposure it will get from being advertised on WWE shows is a double-edged sword; it will let more people know it's there, but it will also draw peoples' attention to the fact that it's "ECW," not ECW.

If the ECW tapings are really going to be held prior to Smackdown and originally be aired only via the WWE Web site, than this is set up to fail from the start and will take a minor miracle to survive for any significant amount of time. A brilliant angle to lead to the promotion's resurrection could help, but I don't have the faith in WWE to handle that.

(edited by TheBucsFan on 28.4.06 1611)
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#54 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.80
By the by, this should certainly increase interest in the SD tapings...

The latest from ~DAVE

"More on the ECW TV situation. As noted last night, ECW will take over the spot formerly held by Velocity. It will be taped prior to Smackdown every Tuesday. We don't have the date this goes into effect, but most likely some point in June. It will be a one hour show that will air on the ECW web site and maybe the WWE web site (although as noted, there are ongoing negotiations for a U.S. TV time slot and it is expected to wind up on USA). In international markets where Velocity airs, the ECW show will replace Velocity, which will cease to exist, as a broadcast property. Tons of work is being done every day on ECW. While Vince McMahon will be not budge off adding a new day of taping because of the drain in man hours for a company that already tapes twice per week, he's been very open to suggestions of adding wrestlers that he knows nothing about. The brand will be launched on 6/7 in Dayton with a WWE vs. ECW show that will feature wrestlers from all three brands, as the decision was made yesterday to add Smackdown wrestlers to the angle for the special and likely the PPV."

Well, gotta respect the decision not to tax the company with another day of tapings ("just hire more production people," you say. Well, that's a little easier said than done.) They're a bottom line company and it's the fiscally responsible decision. If it's run on the ECW site, that's a LITTLE better, but it seems like they're going to end up on USA eventually, so a soft launch to build buzz might not be as bad an idea as it initially looks.

If McMahon really is open to signing talent he's not familiar with, then well...that's jaw droppingly great. Moreso than the promotion, I just want to see what guys they sign. That's the bigger long term boon.

If anything, it's shocking that this is coming together so quickly. They're essentially rebuilding a company from scratch (or from tattered wreckage) in a month and a half.
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#55 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.94
    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    First of all, Christian had just about hit the top of his potential in that WWE run. He wasn't going any further up the card any time soon. This is pretty much the exact opposite of where RVD seems to be right now.


You don't seem to be acknowledging the possibility that the only reason RVD is getting any main event exposure right now is *because* he's being set up to be the champion of the new brand. If an ECW revival wasn't happening, where would RVD be right now?

(edited by Mr Shh on 28.4.06 1645)
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#56 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.80
    Originally posted by Mr Shh
      Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      First of all, Christian had just about hit the top of his potential in that WWE run. He wasn't going any further up the card any time soon. This is pretty much the exact opposite of where RVD seems to be right now.


    You don't seem to be acknowledging the possibility that the only reason RVD is getting any main event exposure right now is *because* he's being set up to be the champion of the new brand. If an ECW revival wasn't happening, where would RVD be right now?

    (edited by Mr Shh on 28.4.06 1645)


He won Money In The Bank before the ECW go ahead was okayed. It was always expected that he would ME ONS 2, challenging for the title and win it, but he's been getting pushed since he returned from injury. I don't think ECW is the sole reason.
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#57 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.25
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    Originally posted by flairforthegold13
    Well, gotta respect the decision not to tax the company with another day of tapings ("just hire more production people," you say. Well, that's a little easier said than done.)


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    Originally posted by The Thrill
    Hell, it'd be easy for 'em to contact me. They've got my resume on file. C'mon, Vince, you know you need me! :-)


?!? You send him one every sixty days? You know those resumes and applications expire after every so long. So you mail them up there every two months or to the HR/talent department?

***EDIT***
Also you're up for HARDCORE? :-D

(edited by jwrestle on 28.4.06 1822)


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#59 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.55
If ECW replaces Velocity are the cruiserweights who form most of the Velocity matches all now either suddenly out of a job, getting more time on SD!, or part of ECW?



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    Originally posted by Matt Tracker
      Originally posted by Ffej
      http://www.nuttercenter.com/

      The Nutter Center in Dayton is listing their June 7th date as "WWE and See No Evil Presents WWE vs. ECW Head-to-Head."



    wwe.com is now listing it:

    The USA Network will get extreme on Wednesday night, June 7, when it brings to you WWE vs. ECW Head to Head. This two-hour special will feature Superstars from RAW, SmackDown and ECW and will originate from the Nutter Center in Dayton, OH. To charge tickets by phone, call (937) 228-2323.
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