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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.50
Dumbest...Idea...Ever!!!!

When a friend first turned me on to ECW in March of 1994, I hooked up a hanger to the back of my TV to catch it every Tuesday Night at midnight for over a year on a low powered VHF station. I was 13, hormones were running wild and so was doinkamania; doinkamania and hormones never went well together, so I become a loyal devotee to the revolution, back when it was a revolution.

The thing is, ECW, was a place in time. It could only be what it was, when it was, and it can never be the way it was back when. Today, there are scores upon scores of indy feds where you got two clowns cutting each other up with barbed wire baseball bats. Today, I can't possibly count how many friggin times I seen someone go through a table. And today one can turn on WWE or TNA to see the tired worked shoots and kayfabe raping that's crippled this industry.

Watching WWE, polish up the unpublishable, will just destroy the legacy and kill whatever bit of marketability (all nostaglic) the letters ECW has left.




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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.48
ECW is like Seattle grunge... I don't hate it now -- and I liked it at the time -- but it's been done, and I don't have a strong desire to see it again.

Besides, wrestling fans haven't abandoned the current offerings because there aren't enough hardcore matches, have they?

Now, if someone could bring back 1989-ish style WCW, I might be interested. But that's just me.

(edited by rv581 on 24.4.06 1024)


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oldschoolhero
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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.34
Giving Heyman and Dreamer the book for an hour of TV a week, plus a decent talent pool of good wrestlers and cult characters, is a pretty good idea for fostering credibility and making a litle extra money.

But they can't tape this show before Raw and/or SmackDown. The crowds are too big and there to see a totally separate show, there would be a reluctance to let the performers really cut loose for fear of showing up the WWE guys later in the night, and the entire product would be DOA due to it being perceived as riding on WWE's coat-tails. Really, who wants to see ECW Shotgun, filmed on the Raw set?



To those who say people wouldn't look; they wouldn't be interested; they're too complacent, indifferent and insulated, I can only reply: There is, in one reporter's opinion, considerable evidence against that contention. But even if they are right, what have they got to lose? Because if they are right, and this instrument is good for nothing but to entertain, amuse and insulate, then the tube is flickering now and we will soon see that the whole struggle is lost. This instrument can teach, it can illuminate; yes, and it can even inspire. But it can do so only to the extent that humans are determined to use it to those ends. Otherwise it is merely wires, and lights, in a box.-Edward R. Murrow
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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.97
Well, this just sounds like yet another way of stopping TNA from getting more talent.

Why does Vince seem so scarred for them?

However, I do look forward to my weekly Angry Amish Chickenfucker sightings!

(edited by Cerebus on 24.4.06 1633)
kentish
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
I was a huge fan of ECW, but it is time to let it go. Most of the top guys are over the hill now anyway. And knowing Paul E. would always have Uncle Vince looking over his shoulder doesn't help either. And if they can't have their own TV show, and have to tape shows at Raw, or show them on the Internet, it doesn't even give the illusion that this is a "legit" fed. ECW died in 2001. That being said, I would gladly eat all of these words, but considering how uncreative WWE has been lately, I doubt it will happen.



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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.34
Vince could sign up any indy wrestlers he so wished and send them to OVW to work through their contracts. Why would he set up a third brand just to "stop TNA getting more talent"? It's not gonna make any anti-WWE guys suddenly rethink their stance.



To those who say people wouldn't look; they wouldn't be interested; they're too complacent, indifferent and insulated, I can only reply: There is, in one reporter's opinion, considerable evidence against that contention. But even if they are right, what have they got to lose? Because if they are right, and this instrument is good for nothing but to entertain, amuse and insulate, then the tube is flickering now and we will soon see that the whole struggle is lost. This instrument can teach, it can illuminate; yes, and it can even inspire. But it can do so only to the extent that humans are determined to use it to those ends. Otherwise it is merely wires, and lights, in a box.-Edward R. Murrow
JimBob Skeeter
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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
Just saw this over at DVDVR:

"Credit to Meltzer

Just a note that next week's Observer has a huge story on the return of ECW. We've got tons of details on how it happened and what the plans are. One note is that WWE's arena booking department today started calling smaller arenas to run "ECW" brand house shows for July, so that is the timetable. TV will be taped similar to how WWE did the Superastros show in the 90s, as prelim matches similar to or replacing Heat/Velocity on the Raw and/or Smackdown nights. They are right now attempting to put together a roster. Many of the wrestlers brought in for One Night Stand, but not all, will be offered a series of three one-year contracts (basically WWE offers one year, but if WWE wants or keeps it going, it has the option for two more years)."


Can you imagine what the buyrate for ONS is going to be, just for the curiosity of how ECW is going to come back to life?
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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.97
This could be the biggest giant flop in wrestling history! Then again it could end up at wrestle-crap as fast as it starts or they are actually able to pull if of as the biggest resurrection since Jesus walking out his grave three days after his death. In either case I'm waiting and watching.

E-C-Dubya! E-C-W! Cult followings are always good aren't they?



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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.00
Dear Lord....I've got a baaaaaaddd feeling about this. My eyes are rollin' so far back in my head, I can read the label on my underwear.

In the meantime, I'm just going to sit back, prop my feet up and wait for the inevitable hijinx (read: TALENT RAID ON TNA!) to ensue.

Somebody pass the popcorn.




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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.56
Sabu has signed officially.
at least that is what gerweck.net is reporting.
also credit www.officialsabu.com.

(edited by numbskull on 24.4.06 2228)
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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.39
Back in college, I used to unplug the cable to get the America One Channel at 11 PM on Tuesday for ECW, come back from the bar for an hour on Thursdays at 11 PM for Smoky Mountain, and sometimes wander in for USWA on Fridays at 11 PM. This is not going to be a good idea in the long run. Part of the aura of ECW was it being held in a dump in Philly with a bunch of miscreants who wanted to see people get the shit kicked out of them, with the occassional Malenko/Guerrero classic tossed in. This will be in front of 1/4 filled arenas as the fans file in and out waiting for the 'real show' with a sterile atmosphere. Throw in the fact that there are very few guys left from ECW's glory days who can still bring it, and this has a better chance of being NWO 2002 than ECW 1995.
Now, if they could recreate Mid-Atlantic Wrestling, I'm all for it.
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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.00
They could do something similar to the ECW Storyline in SMACKDOWN vs RAW 2006. Have RVD win the WWE title,paint ECW on it, and start calling it the ECW World Title. Then, everyone in the WWE that used to be in ECW could all team up with RVD and try to take over the WWE.
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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.29
The one reason I COULD see this going over is that ECW never traveled around the country. Fans everywhere never got to experience live. You hear those EC-DUB chants in every venue. Can you imagine what it will be like for those fans to actually be able to have a reason to chant that and "HOLY SHIT~!" and every other vulgarity-laden chant they can?
I also COULD see this backfiring on Vince and these people may chant for EVERY stupid little highspot and it getting old REAL fast, to the point where the original ECW fans in Philly may get pissed off at the smarks and start NOT chanting. I don't know, too many possibilities.
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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
I also fear this will end up like when they brought back the NWO "brand". Maybe I am missing something, but where are we supposed to see these matches? Does this have anything to do with TNA bringing back Raven, to prevent WWE from signing him?



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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.69
As much as I'd love to see ECW come back and tour...even if it's for a year or two, I'd like even more if former stars like the former Dudley Boyz, or the former Justin Credible gave Vince the finger. I mean...it sucks that Vince threatened legal action against anyone for using their former ECW/WWE names...but to ask them back to the fold after that?

NOTE: I read on LOP that Justin Credible was offered a contract, but I haven't read about the Dudleyz.



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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.10
    Originally posted by Divakind
    In the meantime, I'm just going to sit back, prop my feet up and wait for the inevitable hijinx (read: TALENT RAID ON TNA!) to ensue.


What? You mean Vince isn't doing this because he is a huge ECW fan?

BTW Destrucity brought up Cyrus' name in the Palmer thread. I was a mark for that guy. Where is he now? He stopped doing his SLAM column.








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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.37
    Originally posted by Jackson
      Originally posted by Divakind
      In the meantime, I'm just going to sit back, prop my feet up and wait for the inevitable hijinx (read: TALENT RAID ON TNA!) to ensue.


    What? You mean Vince isn't doing this because he is a huge ECW fan?

    BTW Destrucity brought up Cyrus' name in the Palmer thread. I was a mark for that guy. Where is he now? He stopped doing his SLAM column.







I believe he was backstage at a recent TNA show, visting friends.

(edited by XPacArmy on 26.4.06 0614)


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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.56
I said this on the another board so I am saying it here:

If you thought the TNN version of ECW was watered down, just wait until you see the WWE version.

ECW needs to stay gone and legendary.

On this board under One Question it was asked "What's the old TV show you used to enjoy that you wish you hadn't seen again". I don't want my answer to be ECW Wrestling.

(edited by britishiles on 26.4.06 0907)


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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.80
I think it's way to early to speculate or jump to conclusions about whether or not it's going to fail or succeed.

I think we can all agree on the fact that taping matches as prelims before Raw and SD isn't going to work. It'll give the brand a C-level feel and/or result in the style being neutured to death. Having Sandman and Necro Butcher or whomever slice each other up before the John Cena show won't help. However, if they use WWE TV to promote the house shows, then you have something. I mean, there doesn't even HAVE to be a significant TV presence. Have an ECW brand tour the country, release DVDs and run quarterly PPVS and you're going to make a tidy profit and generate some great buzz for Corporate.

I don't think they indend to make the new ECW the number 1 or number 2 company in wrestling. This is a farm team revival to cash in on merch and to give guys opportunity (and it also keeps Happy Heyman in the fold.)

It also enables them to lock up more talent without overwhelming OVW or having to call them up to the bigs. Remember the report months ago when McMahon gave Ace the greenlight to sign guys just to stop them from going to TNA and then bury them (a story that was really ridiculous, honestly. As if anyone thinks they'd blow money on guys just to ruin their careeers.) However, this does have that effect. You don't think Raven and the Dudz wouldn't love to back under the Heyman booking machine, this time with checks that clear. Let's be honest, a 3rd brand ECW is basically the same in stature as TNA, a company bleeding money by the millions.

Here's what is clear. This is going to get over like no one's business. Merchandise will be sold by the boatload, the fans (many of whom never ever saw ECW) will go wild for this.

It'll also give guys an opportunity. A new brand means more job opportunities. Nothing wrong with that. The fact that they plan on running house shows is a good sign of faith.

There's still a ton more questions than answers, but taking aside the ECW nostalgia, WWE starting a 3rd brand to tour the country and give guys exposure is a brilliant idea. People like to think that the Raw/SD split has been a disaster, when it really, really hasn't. Financially it's been great and it's enabled them to not have to fire half the roster.

This isn't the biggest wrestling story of the last 3 years or anything, but it's going to be mighty interesting to see how this goes.
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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.56
It won't be a "Heyman Booking Machine". It will be Heyman and/or Dreamer's ideas, then OK's by Vince. It won't be the same.

Now the rumor is ECW will be shown on WWE.com.

Watered down...



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RVD: Oh ok. You're a giant tool.
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