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Kane def. the Boogeyman in a squishy squash:

At the beginning of the match Kane showed an general uncomfortability towards Boogey and his worm diet, but then he warmed up to it and accepted a handful of earthworms. Greatest moment of Kane's career almost happened when he teased eating them, but instead he sucker punches. Boogey flies into the Chokeslam to make this mercifully quick.



Mark Henry def. Santino Marella to qualify for MiTB at Wrestlemania:

The highlight of the night but lowlight for Wrestlemania, Henry destroys Santino and qualifies. I almost turned off the show from this. I really don't want to see Mark Henry lumber up that match. At least Kane is use to high spots, but whatever Santino was entertaining. Comparing his smexy body as opposed to Henry, but just "ugh" at the results.



Natalya Neidhart (with Tyson Kidd) def. Alicia Fox (with DJ Gabriel) via Sharpshooter:

As much as I love Alicia Foxiness, I really love seeing a woman using the Sharpshooter. I'm sure it's psychological. Fox put out a good effort and seems to be progressing rapidly like her fellow Floridian Kelly Kelly. Tyson's look still disturbs me.



Jack Swagger, Miz, and Morrison def. Tommy Dreamer, Finlay, and Christian via Gutwrench Powerbomb:

Match was kinda slow in the beginning but the hot tag to Christian lit up the crowd. Seems since returning to WWE Christian has been rejuvenated, breaking out aerial moves I don't even remember seeing him do back in The Brood. He did a nice spot in which he ducks a clothesline from Miz while reverse DDTing Morrison, twas purty awesome. Good match with a hot ending. I think I was able to repress Hornswoggle interference, if it happened....

...but not Mark Henry qualifying for MiTB!


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I have no problem with Mark Henry being in MitB, especially since there's going to be eight people in it, so I don't see Henry detracting. Besides, typically in ladder matches nobody gets up ladders with any sense of urgency to begin with. Besides besides, he's Mark the Merciless!

Boogey sold that Kaneuropean Uppercut like a bomb hit him. Outstanding.

Boo of the night: A rare moment of painfulness for the ECW announcing crew when Santino was ready to talk, and Matt was trying to get Todd to shut up, but Todd kept rolling thru his report from his Mark Henry "interview earlier today."

Yay of the night: But I'm willing to forgive him because my favorite thing about Todd is that he's halfway to the parking lot even while the Gutwrench is still in the air. It really sells the move as the ultimate "Goodnight Gracie" moment on ECW.

(edited by Super Shane Spear on 3.3.09 2212)
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I swear, if Tyson Kidd put on DJ Gabriel's jacket, he'd be a dead ringer for Alex Wright....well, if he did something with that hair.

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Striker getting to bust out Italian phrases (including one for "shut up" that my uncle used to say when I was growing up) was the highlight of the show for me.

Also, late in the main even, Striker said something about Christian having experience being "on the Edge"...something along those lines...

(edited by Spiraling_Shape on 4.3.09 0616)


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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.31
Mark Henry can probably do some cool catching and bending of things. I bet he will World's Strongest Slam the ladder onto a man. Kane can do his clothesline off the ladder. Everyone else will do everything else.
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I wouldn't trust someone of Santino's proven shittiness in a ladder environment. I can't even think of one move he does on a regular basis. Henry can do some impressive power stuff, then get knocked out of the running by a big spot through a table or something. That said, I'd rather see Umaga in there-he could be genuinely great in a ladder match.



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The fact that Mark Henry is a better choice than Santino does not = Mark Henry should be in the MITB. They could have simply not booked the match.



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
Why not? I'm sure they've got some stuff in mind for him in the match. And he's earned a spot on the card-he was arguably the most credible ECW champ of the past two years.
Man, where's the Raw Workrate Report when you need some Henry kudos...
EDIT: Geemoney, if Santino had the goods inring, or even a modicum of ability, I think they would have capitalised on it. He's a great talker with a good look-if he could wrestle, i don't think he'd be the joke performer that he is.

(edited by oldschoolhero on 4.3.09 1019)


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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.51
    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    I wouldn't trust someone of Santino's proven shittiness in a ladder environment. I can't even think of one move he does on a regular basis.


But to play devil's advocate, when was the last time WWE let him wrestle a match longer than two minutes? If he wrestled 10 minutes every show, then I'm sure you'd be able to remember some moves. And I really don't think he's as bad in the ring as WWE is letting on (presumably, that's the reason they don't trust him to do anything but slip on a banana peel and get pinned).
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    Originally posted by geemoney
      Originally posted by oldschoolhero
      I wouldn't trust someone of Santino's proven shittiness in a ladder environment. I can't even think of one move he does on a regular basis.


    But to play devil's advocate, when was the last time WWE let him wrestle a match longer than two minutes? If he wrestled 10 minutes every show, then I'm sure you'd be able to remember some moves. And I really don't think he's as bad in the ring as WWE is letting on (presumably, that's the reason they don't trust him to do anything but slip on a banana peel and get pinned).

Having a guy in there for comedic affect is no worse than having several muscle heads in there just so they can get a WM bonus. Even if Kane and Henry are the greatest (W)ECW champs of all time (what an honor) that doesn't mean they deserve these spots compared to other guys who can put on a better show, without token, contrived power spots to get the big guys involved.

I agree with hansen9j though, don't book either guy in the MITB qualifying match.




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    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
    Mark Henry can probably do some cool catching and bending of things. I bet he will World's Strongest Slam the ladder onto a man. Kane can do his clothesline off the ladder. Everyone else will do everything else.


I agree. Mark Henry is a fine choice. Guys are going to be able to do new spots by bouncing off of him, that they never could do with anybody else.

They should really have him bend something too.



(edited by BigDaddyLoco on 4.3.09 1603)
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I caught the three way. It wasn't bad...I got a huge kick out of some of the spots.

One thing I am digging is the gut wrench bomb. I used to have a action figure do it as finisher. It really gratifies my inner child to see that being used.

I like how well that match went.




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    Originally posted by kentish
      Originally posted by geemoney
        Originally posted by oldschoolhero
        I wouldn't trust someone of Santino's proven shittiness in a ladder environment. I can't even think of one move he does on a regular basis.


      But to play devil's advocate, when was the last time WWE let him wrestle a match longer than two minutes? If he wrestled 10 minutes every show, then I'm sure you'd be able to remember some moves. And I really don't think he's as bad in the ring as WWE is letting on (presumably, that's the reason they don't trust him to do anything but slip on a banana peel and get pinned).

    Having a guy in there for comedic affect is no worse than having several muscle heads in there just so they can get a WM bonus. Even if Kane and Henry are the greatest (W)ECW champs of all time (what an honor) that doesn't mean they deserve these spots compared to other guys who can put on a better show, without token, contrived power spots to get the big guys involved.



I think the fact that Henry has improved his in-ring work over the last year and has become at least semi-entertaining is deserving of a spot at WM, and I don't think his spot in the MITB is just to get some "muscleheads" a WM paycheck.
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    Originally posted by kentish
      Originally posted by geemoney
        Originally posted by oldschoolhero
        I wouldn't trust someone of Santino's proven shittiness in a ladder environment. I can't even think of one move he does on a regular basis.


      Even if Kane and Henry are the greatest (W)ECW champs of all time (what an honor) that doesn't mean they deserve these spots compared to other guys who can put on a better show, without token, contrived power spots to get the big guys involved.



What makes power spots "token" and "contrived" but not some backflip through a table while a guy lays on said table for 30 seconds to set it up?

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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.00
    Originally posted by kentish
    that doesn't mean they deserve these spots compared to other guys who can put on a better show, without token, contrived power spots to get the big guys involved.


As opposed to all of the high spots that make perfect sense within the storyline of the match?


    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    I wouldn't trust someone of Santino's proven shittiness in a ladder environment. I can't even think of one move he does on a regular basis.


There's the swan dive headbutt from the mat, but that's not something the WWE would likely be interested in seeing done from a ladder, considering the last person to do so.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.63
    Originally posted by InVerse
      Originally posted by kentish
      that doesn't mean they deserve these spots compared to other guys who can put on a better show, without token, contrived power spots to get the big guys involved.


    As opposed to all of the high spots that make perfect sense within the storyline of the match?


      Originally posted by oldschoolhero
      I wouldn't trust someone of Santino's proven shittiness in a ladder environment. I can't even think of one move he does on a regular basis.


    There's the swan dive headbutt from the mat, but that's not something the WWE would likely be interested in seeing done from a ladder, considering the last person to do so.

Hey, if you any of you would rather see guys bending things, and bouncing of fat guys instead of guys like Rey, Bourne, Shelton, and Morrison flipping around, that is your prerogative. Man, when did Mizark get his own fan club?? Sorry, guys.

Don't get me wrong, I like a good power match if it is well done, the Taker/Batista series was excellent. But MITB doesn't seem like it is designed for that type of match. That's just my opinion.





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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.38
If anyone is seriously not interested in the train wreck that will be MARK HENRY versus SEVERAL LADDERS, man, I don't know what to tell you. I just hope Khali and Kozlov get in on this too.



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I'm surprised Mark Henry can even climb stairs, let alone ladders. He's much like ED-209 in that respect.



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Henry cutting an ED209 "you have 10 seconds to comply" promo on a terrified jobber would be super.
Kentish, if the MITB was populated by Kane, Khali, Big Show, Kozlov, Henry, Umaga, Knox and JBL i'd agree with you. But Punk's in, and the guys you mentioned may well also make it in. Variety is the spice of life-inserting a coupla power guys into a traditional flipflop fest is a great way of switching things up. It's not an either/or thing-the highspots and the power stuff can and will coexist in the match.



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    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    Henry cutting an ED209 "you have 10 seconds to comply" promo on a terrified jobber would be super.
    Kentish, if the MITB was populated by Kane, Khali, Big Show, Kozlov, Henry, Umaga, Knox and JBL i'd agree with you. But Punk's in, and the guys you mentioned may well also make it in. Variety is the spice of life-inserting a coupla power guys into a traditional flipflop fest is a great way of switching things up. It's not an either/or thing-the highspots and the power stuff can and will coexist in the match.

I hope you are right, and you probably are. However, Umaga I could deal with. But you just can't help but think JBl will get on the card in some manner. Kane was in the first one, and it is still the best of the MITB matches. But not necessarily because of anything he did.




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