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#21 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.89
    Originally posted by chill
    Ocean's Twelve easily fits into my Top 10 Worst of 2004. Forget comparisons to the first one, this movie was just a waste of all elements involved: from the money paid to make it and the money I paid to see it.


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#22 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.77
The Life Aquatic, The Incredibes, Napolean Dynamite, and Team America in the same year... a banner year indeed.
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#23 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.94
Ebert on Napoleon Dynamite: "Watching "Napoleon Dynamite," I was reminded of "Welcome to the Dollhouse," Todd Solondz's brilliant 1996 film, starring Heather Matarazzo as an unpopular junior high school girl. But that film was informed by anger and passion, and the character fought back. Napoleon seems to passively invite ridicule, and his attempts to succeed have a studied indifference, as if he is mocking his own efforts." - *1/2

Ebert on Troy: " In a way, "Troy" resembles "The Alamo." Both are about fortresses under siege. Both are defeated because of faulty night watchmen. The Mexicans sneak up on the Alamo undetected, and absolutely nobody is awake to see the Greeks climbing out of the Trojan Horse. One difference between the two movies is that Billy Bob Thornton and the other "Alamo" actors are given evocative dialogue, and deliver it well, while "Troy" provides dialogue that probably cannot be delivered well because it would sound even sillier that way." - **

Ebert on Ocean's Twelve: "Rather than describe some of their other targets, such as a priceless jeweled egg, I will observe that all of the targets are MacGuffins, that it matters not what they go after but how they do it, and what they say in the process. The movie is all about behavior, dialogue, star power and wiseass in-jokes. I really sort of liked it." - ***

Ebert on The Life Aquatic: "My rational mind informs me that this movie doesn't work. Yet I hear a subversive whisper: Since it does so many other things, does it have to work, too? Can't it just exist? "Terminal whimsy," I called it on the TV show. Yes, but isn't that better than half-hearted whimsy, or no whimsy at all? Wes Anderson's "The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou" is the damnedest film. I can't recommend it, but I would not for one second discourage you from seeing it." - **1/2

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#24 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.46
Napoleon Dynamite is exactly this: wonderful. As is Garden State. As is, moreso, ESotSpotless Mind. As is, mostso, Life Aquatic.
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#25 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.16
Hmm, I guess I'm the only one that was somewhat disappointed by Spider-man 2. It just felt like every time Kirsten Dunst was on the screen the movie went downhill. It'd start getting good again after she left, but sooner than I'd like, there she was again. Then there was that whole, "let's put out this sun-looking thingy in the ocean" bit. I don't know if I'd go as far as saying I liked the first Spider-man more, but it's a possibility.

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#26 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.29
    Originally posted by JayJayDean
    OH NO YOU DIDN'T

    *My enjoyment of the film may be increased due to the fact that it was the first one Mrs. JJD saw in the theater in well over two years. Possibly.


Nah, I second you here. I thought Ocean's Twelve was great. The actors really made the movie. And as far as celebrity cameos go, this is about as good as it gets.



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#27 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.11
No movie beats "Goldmember" for Celebrity Cameos. Ocean's 12 was good up until the HORRIBLE "Let us zoom in on the actor's face from a high vantage point TWELVE TIMES IN A ROW" shot. After that nauseating bit of camera work, the movie was all downhill from there as the ending basically left me feeling, "So why did I care about anything the actors did in EITHER of the first two movies?"

Neither Ebert or Roeper put "The Incredibles" in their Top Ten? Wow. I don't know how the hell they missed that one.

Added: Ebert's completely cracked. About Spider-Man 2 he writes, "Here's the best superhero movie ever made." Which I would have completely agreed with, before I saw The Incredibles. Then in the next sentence he goes on to praise Blade 2 as a good entry into the genre. What a nut.

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#28 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.14
Blade 2 was pretty entertaining as a movie, and pretty solid as an action sequel.

Did anyone NOT like Kill Bill 2 enough to recommend that I don't rent it? It's been the runner-up each time I've been at Blockbuster the past 3 months at least, but I can't bring myself to actually rent it yet.




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#29 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.94
I was NOT a fan of the first Kill Bill at all and still wonder where all the love for it is coming from. However, I really enjoyed Kill Bill vol. 2. The ending was a bit anti-climactic, but the rest of the film was really good. I went in with a closed mind, but it still won me over.

I thought Ocean's Twelve was... okay. Overall, I enjoyed it, but there were times when I just felt it was way too confusing. There were too many twists and turns and swerves. The first one had a lot of them too, but they all seemed really clever. This one had twists that just seemed akward.

I've been reading some good things about Napolean Dynamite but I still have less than zero interest in ever seeing it. Is it really worth the 5 bucks to rent it as well as the 2 hours of my life to see it?



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#30 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.70
    Originally posted by OMEGA
    I've been reading some good things about Napolean Dynamite but I still have less than zero interest in ever seeing it. Is it really worth the 5 bucks to rent it as well as the 2 hours of my life to see it?


I think it's only 90 minutes. (thumbs up)

Napoleon Dynamite is one of the funniest first-time movies I've ever seen. I was attending a weekday evening show with a largely inattentive teen audience that seemed confused by the first five minutes, but by the end were laughing as hard as I've ever heard a movie audience laugh. The second time I saw it, I must admit, I didn't laugh nearly as much since I knew what was coming, but for the first time, it's gold.



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#31 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.73
Honestly, my mom usually sleeps throught the movies that my dad and I rent when I'm over for New Years, so she really suprised me when she watched Napolean. She was absolutely rolling. I think that really speaks for the general, overarching appeal that it carries. Almost everybody will find one thing or another funny about it. I'd say it's definately worth checking out.



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#32 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.08
    Originally posted by StingArmy
    Hmm, I guess I'm the only one that was somewhat disappointed by Spider-man 2. It just felt like every time Kirsten Dunst was on the screen the movie went downhill. It'd start getting good again after she left, but sooner than I'd like, there she was again. Then there was that whole, "let's put out this sun-looking thingy in the ocean" bit. I don't know if I'd go as far as saying I liked the first Spider-man more, but it's a possibility.
I feel the same way about her in the movie. While they had to have her in there, it really slowed down the movie. I enjoyed it, however, and didn't feel disappointed. That said, I am the guy who wasn't disappointed by WaterWorld.

With Kill Bill...its funny. You KNOW the story, and you KNOW the outcome. Girl almost murdered, girl gets revenge - simple. It's amazing how much more there is to the movie(s) though. Someone had told me that "2 is better than 1, but its a totally different movie." I think they are close in how much I enjoyed them, with perhaps the second getting the edge. Two is certainly different because the last half hour or so (I don't want to give anything away) really brings another element to both main characters. That, and the lack of gratuitous violence and tastelessness that runs rampant in the first...not to say it was bad in the first, but both things were just very much THERE.



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#33 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.81
The ones to take off the top 10 lists are House of Flying Daggers and Hero (art films with subtitles).

Add to the top 10 list, Friday Night Lights for being unapologetically smart.
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#34 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
    Originally posted by Cerebus
    ... I can't understand why either of these guys would put a subpar Clint Eastwood film (MILLION DOLLAR BABY)...on a best of list...


Have you seen it yet? I am a big fan of the short story that the film is based on (I'll admit it is the only book that has ever made me cry...what?)and it is my most anticipated film of the new year. I actually am attending a press screening tonight. I'm so excited I could pee.

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#35 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.23
Spiderman 2 was probably the only movie this year where I was near tears at the end. I also agree its probably up there with Superman as being the only first and second movie to really mesh well together. X-Men 2 was awesome, but it missed the emotional beats that Spiderman 2 had which is odd considering they killed Jean at the end. To me, I felt I was totally in Peter's shoes since the first frame of Spiderman 1 and 2 upped the stakes. Kristin Dunst did really well with it, I was just fustruated when she was with JJ's son, but thats what I was supposed to feel anyway. Spiderman 2 is my best movie of the year followed by Kill Bill 2, Hero and Incrediables. Like I said I loved Rushmore I don't need to see Napolean and I'll wait till Episode III, four hours long, George?, to get my Natalie Portman fix.

Incrediables was great, but I still walked out near the end to catch the Episode III trailer. I have no problem with Incrediables its just I found myself not really getting into like I did with Nemo. I really didn't get into the film till the kids fought with the guards and I was totally blown away by what I was seeing. It just feel more like a James Bond movie than a real superhero film, but it does a great job being the closest we will ever get to a Watchmen film though.

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#36 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.29
    Originally posted by A Fan
    I also agree its probably up there with Superman as being the only first and second movie to really mesh well together.


Terminator 1 & 2 anybody?



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#37 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
    Originally posted by Roy.
    Explanations by Ebert can also be seen here (rogerebert.suntimes.com).

    He also lists his Ten Worst Films of 2004. Can't say I see any reason to disagree. No explanations from him, though. If he does it on TV, I'd like to see it, if only for the entertainment value.

    Wost Films of 2004:
    1. (tie) "Troy"
    1. (tie) "Alexander"
    2. "Christmas With the Kranks"
    3. "The Girl Next Door"
    4. "Dogville"
    5. "New York Minute"
    6. "The Grudge"
    7. "White Chicks"
    8. "Resident Evil: Apocalypse"
    9. "The Whole Ten Yards"
    10. "The Village"


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#38 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.00
    Originally posted by krakken2000
      Originally posted by Cerebus
      ... I can't understand why either of these guys would put a subpar Clint Eastwood film (MILLION DOLLAR BABY)...on a best of list...


    Have you seen it yet? I am a big fan of the short story that the film is based on (I'll admit it is the only book that has ever made me cry...what?)and it is my most anticipated film of the new year. I actually am attending a press screening tonight. I'm so excited I could pee.

    (edited by krakken2000 on 4.1.05 1343)


And I saw it...

Wow.

This is an amazing film. It is nearly flawless. Clint Eastwood, Morgan Freeman and Hillary Swank give three outstanding performances. The film does everything right in telling its story. My experience last night watching this movie ranks in my top 5 movie watching experiences ever. There is nothing “sub-par” about this movie.

Wow.




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#39 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
Heh, I saw more from the Worst list (Grudge and Resident Evil :Apocalypse) than the Best lists (Kill Bill v2) this year.

The Grudge was... well, I've seen worse and leave it at that. Resident Evil: Apocalypse was _so_ bad that it became enjoyably campy crap -- the most expensive horror-action film Troma never made.

MY worst film of the year? Easy one -- The Bourne Supremacy. A pretty good book turned into a blah screenplay, with the WORST CAMERAWORK AND CINEMATOGRAPHY IN THE HISTORY OF MOVIES. I'd never had a film give me motion sickness before, but this one did.




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#40 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.89
    Originally posted by Nuclear Winter
      Originally posted by A Fan
      I also agree its probably up there with Superman as being the only first and second movie to really mesh well together.


    Terminator 1 & 2 anybody?


I'm astonished no one's put the first two Godfather movies with this. C'MON PEOPLE!

Also, "Raiders of the Lost Ark" and "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" were both pretty fair, and the Star Wars movies all were decent.

    Originally posted by vsp
    MY worst film of the year? Easy one -- The Bourne Supremacy.


AHHHHH! I loved THAT movie, too! Is that really "the worst movie you had high expectations for", because it was pretty damn entertaining.

I think the worst film I saw all year would have to be "Anchorman", which left me not even really wanting to see it again for the jokes.



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