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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.94

from pwinsider.com

Mitch Chartrand called in the following results from Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada at the Smackdown taping:

Dark Match:

*Carly Colon pinned Wavell Starr

Velocity:

*Rene Dupree pinned Nunzio

*Sakoda pinned Funaki

*Billy Gunn and Bob Holly defeated The Bashams

*Rob Van Dam defeated Mark Jindrak. Rene Dupree did commentary at ringside.

*Josh Matthews interviewed WWE champion John Bradshaw Layfield backstage. Bradshaw said he was going to fight a real champion, "El Luchadore" from Mexico later on tonight.

*Paul London & Billy Kidman defeated The Dudley Boyz to win the WWE Tag Team championships.

*Backstage, the wrestlers congratulated Billy Kidman and Paul London for their title win. The Dudleys came up to Kidman and London and shook their hands.

*Charlie Haas came to the ring to wrestle. Backstage, Kurt Angle and Luther Reigns announced that Haas was suspended for a week, but would face Reigns next week on Smackdown.

*Josh Matthews interviewed Kenzo Suzuki. Hiroki (Suzuki's wife) told the crowd that Suzuki loved the United States to get heat from Canadian fans. It appeared this was for the live crowd.

*WWE United States champion John Cena was rapping about Booker T. Kenzo Suzuki came out and brawled with Cena. Cena got the upper hand. Suzuki was knocked out of the ring. Luther Reigns came to the ring and laid out Cena.

*"El Gran Luchadore" defeated WWE champion John Bradshaw Layfield by countout. Eddie Guerrrero came down to the ring dressed like Luchadore and switched places with him. Guerrero hit the triple suplex combination and did his "Latino Heat" dance. Bradshaw realized it and left the ring, getting counted out.

*Backstage, The Dudleys confronted Spike Dudley and said that even though Spike didn't help them, they wanted to help him. Spike turned them down.

Chavo Guerrero & Jamie Noble & Akio defeated Spike Dudley & Rey Misterio & Scotty Too Hotty when Noble pinned Dudley. This was said to have been a really good match.

*Paul Heyman did an interview inside the ring, placing the urn down inside the ring and telling The Undertaker (who did not appear) that everything that had happened the last few weeks was the idea of the Dudley Boyz.

*WWE United States champion John Cena pinned Booker T with the FU. Kurt Angle and Luther Reigns came to ringside. Cena accidentally hit Angle with a clothesline after Booker ducked. He then took out Reigns with Angle's cane. After the pin, Reigns attacked Cena and grabbed the US title and walked off. Angle announced that Cena had been warned that if he put his hands on Angle, there would be reprecussions and there are - Angle then announced that Cena was stripped of the United States championship.

After they went off the air, Booker T attacked Cena. Cena chased off Booker T and then did some mic work to send off the live crowd.


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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.66
I'll channel Jim Ross when Barry Horrowitz beat Skip...

LONDON WINS! LONDON WINS! LONDON WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My god. From jobber to champion. It's about damn time something good came his way!

I must say, at least SmackDown is getting some mid-card feuds going now. We have Van Dam v. Dupree, Cena v. Sazuki (uggh), London/Kidman v. Dudleyz, and Haas v. Reigns (for now). A few weeks ago we had a total of three feuds in the whole brand. While some feuds don't look promising (Cena/Sazuki anyone?), at least it's a start.



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I get the feeling that Cena/Suzuki is just a mini-feud to kind of keep busy till Booker/Cena kicks in full forces.


About time London/Kidman got the belts.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.64
I jumped up and down after reading that. I'm just happy that London finally got something, and hopefully this'll lead to more goodiness.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.47
A pair of cruisers win the tag titles, and a 6-man cruiser match on Smackdown? Did somebody tie and gag Tom Pritchard in a closet for tonight's show? Maybe they finally figured it out.... naaah.

Surprised that Jindrak finally got a chance on the big show, although with three straight losses it looks like his push is dying. Too bad too, because although he is a rehash of Luger, at least he has Theodore by his side.

Cena getting stripped of the U.S. belt is pretty cheap, but maybe this leads to some kind of tournament that'll end at Summerslam... shockingly enough, booking for the future, which is something Smackdown has been lacking for a while now.
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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.98
    Originally posted by knightvibe
    *Sakoda pinned Funaki



Actually, I think that Funaki pinned Sakoda with a roll-up or something. Not that it *really* matters, but Funaki got a HUGE reaction. Much more than I would have expected. A lot of love for Smackdown Number One Announcer.

    Originally posted by knightvibe
    *Paul London & Billy Kidman defeated The Dudley Boyz to win the WWE Tag Team championships.


This was a sweet match. For all those talking about London and Kidman being wasted, you'll get a BIG kick out of this match, especially the "WASSSSUP" spot. Kidman NAILED the SSP for the titles. It's too bad that people kept yelling "WHO'S KIDMAN'S PARTNER???" *Nobody* knew who he was.

    Originally posted by knightvibe
    *"El Gran Luchadore" defeated WWE champion John Bradshaw Layfield by countout. Eddie Guerrrero came down to the ring dressed like Luchadore and switched places with him. Guerrero hit the triple suplex combination and did his "Latino Heat" dance. Bradshaw realized it and left the ring, getting counted out.



I think this was actually just a "no finish". There wasn't any announcement that I remember, but there could have been, as the crowd was going ape-shit for Eddie at that point. Hopefully they air all of Eddie's post-match promo. It was friggin' hilarious. Also, Bradshaw's pre-match promo almost turned him face. The guy was just that funny. He had 1/3 of the crowd cheering him at least, which I'm sure will be editted out (along with the "BULL-SHIT" and "GO JETS GO" chants)

    Originally posted by knightvibe

    *Backstage, The Dudleys confronted Spike Dudley and said that even though Spike didn't help them, they wanted to help him. Spike turned them down.


Spike got the line of the night. Something like "If I didn't want your help last week when you WERE tag champs, what makes you think I want it NOW?"


    Originally posted by knightvibe
    Chavo Guerrero & Jamie Noble & Akio defeated Spike Dudley & Rey Misterio & Scotty Too Hotty when Noble pinned Dudley. This was said to have been a really good match.


It was. It had a lot of the old spots you'd expect from a Thunder Crusierweight match. Rey almost fell right off the top rope on an Asai Moonsault, and a lot of well-known spots were hit (along with some new ones). This was the ONE match that didn't look MUCH slower live than it is on TV. With two big Smackdown screens right there, I couldn't believe how much better most of these guys look on TV (Especially Bradshaw). It also probably doesn't hurt that this match was the only one NOT to feature at least 15 chinlocks.

    Originally posted by knightvibe

    *Paul Heyman did an interview inside the ring, placing the urn down inside the ring and telling The Undertaker (who did not appear)


Cue "BULL-SHIT" chant #1. Especially when after they went to commercial and came back (or looked to come back) they kinda set up some shots of the urn on the canvas to make us think this was 'part 2' of the promo.

    Originally posted by Hurrikane757k
    Surprised that Jindrak finally got a chance on the big show, although with three straight losses it looks like his push is dying. Too bad too, because although he is a rehash of Luger, at least he has Theodore by his side.


Actually, there was no Teddy Long. This match along had about 272 chinlocks. My God, Jindrak sucks big time. This match along almost took 1/2 the crowd out of it.



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#7 Posted on
Here's hoping this leads to a TLC match between them and the Duds.
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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.47
    Originally posted by Tribal Prophet
    Actually, there was no Teddy Long.


Oh well, change my statement from "dying" to "dead" push then.
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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.11
    Originally posted by knightvibe
    *Rob Van Dam defeated Mark Jindrak. Rene Dupree did commentary at ringside.


That match was still on Velocity, right? It wasnīt SmackDown, right? That means RVD isnīt even a real midcarder in WWE today, right? He wonīt be pushed anytime soon, right? Unlike the Dudleyz, right? Unlike Holly and Ass, right? Unlike Kenzo Suzuki, right? Unlike Bradshaw, right? And Faarooq is coming back to wrestle Bradshaw for the title, right? Could it be....WWE doesnīt need my money anymore? ...Right?

    *Paul London & Billy Kidman defeated The Dudley Boyz to win the WWE Tag Team championships.
Reminds me of Marty Jannetty and the 1-2-3 Kid holding the tag titles for approx. one week in the early 90s! (1994?)

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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.98
RVD and Jindrak is the show opener for Smackdown. After roughly an hour and a half of a chinlock, RVD breaks out his 4 Moves of Doom and wins with a really cool looking Split-Legged Moonsault.

Cool enough match once it got going, but by the time the 4 Moves of Doom were started, we were already falling asleep (when he started staring at us for the Rolling Thunder, aside from the people cheering because they were on TV, we were all like "Yeah, fine do it, whatever, just do SOMETHING already!").

He's *got* to learn how to change up his stuff or at least quicken a match up a bit when it's obvious they're losing us. I think it's stuff like that rather than anything else that's keeping him from the top.


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Looks like a decent show. Looking forward to the tag title match, as well as the 6-man cruiser match (although I could do without Spike & Scotty in there - put Shannon Moore in one of those spots, instead).

Hopefully they give London/Kidman a decent run with the belts, instead of jobbing them next week to Holly/Gunn. Have them mix it up with the FBI, Akio/Sakoda, Bashams.

Any idea who played the original "El Gran Luchadore" before Eddie took over? Did London pull double duty?



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.61

I almost crapped my pants when I read the Tag Team title spoilers ... let's hope they get a decent run as champs with a Summerslam appearance.

Looks like I'll be watching the show this week. I'm all for a good ol' fashioned tournament for the US title.




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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.98
    Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
    Any idea who played the original "El Gran Luchadore" before Eddie took over? Did London pull double duty?


It could have been. Whoever it was was Eddie's (almost) exact height, and only slightly smaller build, except for the arms. As soon as we saw Eddie's weirdy huge biceps in the outfit, it was pretty obvious that they had switched, and then sure enough there it was on the Smackdown-tron's instant replay.

There was no offense from the guy what-so-ever, other than the odd kick to the leg that Bradshaw would smile off in a "Oh, you whacky challenger" sort of way, so there was no way to recognize any sort of style. Could have been any number of a billion indy guys we have here in the city too.

I also think the 6-man would have been a whole lot better with two other people in it, although Scotty doesn't do much other than the bulldog and the W-O-R-M. It was a good match, but the outcome of Spike losing it for his team was foreshadowed so much (especially when we realized that the Dudley's weren't coming back out) that you really just had to enjoy the spots. Lucky for them, with Rey and Akio in the match, that wasn't hard to do.

I also don't remember Cena ever getting a chance to pin Booker T. There might have been a quick one, but I remember us all getting pretty pissed off that the match they already teased us with and then held back an hour ended in a screwy way. I think Luther ran straight in after the F-U. Oh, and Luther's 'Spinning, reverse DDT" move he did to Cena during the first attempt at the match got a REAL nice reaction from the crowd. I hope it comes across good on tv, because that move looked like it killed Cena. And in case anyone hates D'Von, London nailed him with a pretty stiff forearm (the first in a group) when D'Von was waiting for a tag. A REAL solid shot that got everyone going "Oh!" for a second because it was REAL obvious that D'Von didn't expect it at all.

I guess I should put this stuff in too:

Biggest pop of the night:
1) Cena (every time he came out, which was a lot, the place went nuts)
2) Taker (even though he wasn't there, we still chanted during breaks)
3) Holly and Gunn (me and my friend we embarassed to be there)
and an honorable mention for Funaki.

I don't know who got the most heel heat. Not really anyone, except for Kenzo Suzuki's "God... Bless... America" promo done just for us, but then once it was done and he came out, nobody cared. Bradshaw did alright too, but it was all done lovingly because his promo beforehand was just damned funny. As far as the "Nobody cared" heat, there was plenty. In a weird way, here it is:
1) Paul London (people only 'remembered' Kidman and kept asking 'who's Kidman's partner?', which distracted most from paying attention to the match)
2) The Bashams
3) Kenzo Suzuki
and Jindrak too, because everyone was just looking for Teddy Long.


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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.05
A guy on another board who attended thinks it was Shannon Moore.



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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00

    Any idea who played the original "El Gran Luchadore" before Eddie took over? Did London pull double duty?


Yep. Meltzer had a bit about this; London is Hispanic but plays it down to avoid being typecast as a lucha guy, and ended up as one anyway.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.61
    Originally posted by thecubsfan

      Any idea who played the original "El Gran Luchadore" before Eddie took over? Did London pull double duty?


    Yep. Meltzer had a bit about this; London is Hispanic but plays it down to avoid being typecast as a lucha guy, and ended up as one anyway.


I read an interesting interview with Konnan awhile ago, and he touched upon that. He brought up a good point in that there's definite potential in targeting the Hispanic market in the United States, and how they should do more (not just in WWE but with a lot of indys as well) to target that demographic. With WWE touting their number one rating among Hispanic males 18-34 (or whatever it was) a couple weeks back, it wouldn't surprise me at all if they tried to move in that direction and became more lenient with using a lucha style to secure that market. After all, it was part of the reason why WCW was so successful during those eighty plus weeks at the top.

Reading the spoilers, it looks like WWE is, as bad as the Smackdown product has been recently, moving in the right direction. They seem to be playing up the Cruisers and establishing Smackdown as a completely different brand than RAW (not just in roster but in style as well). Hopefully this means the Cruiserweight division will finally start getting airtime other than on Heat and stop being treated as a joke.




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While I'm liking the thought of London as half of the tag champs, I kinda wish Spanky was by his side. I liked them as a team.

Could the Dudleys' handshake after the match (and Heyman's subsequent accusal) foreshadow a face turn for them? I don't get the feeling they were comfortable as a heel team, although it would seem Spike is heading in that direction. I don't think I've seen Spike as a heel during his time in WWE.

Count this as a first: I'm actually stoked about a Smackdown! show. This hasn't happened in over two months.



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I'm sure we're all jinxing it by making mention of the trend, but yeah, since GAB they have done more for the cruisers than they have in a long time. Now, whether that's actually a sign of the direction they're taking or just a sad commentary on how bad things have been, who's to say. But combine the fact that they let a cruiser kill off Mordecai last week and had no less than eight cruisers on the show for non-squash purposes this week and I guess there's reason for optimism. Maybe someone with input saw how bad GAB was and said 'no more'.

On a personal level, I'm very glad to see Paul London finally get something. At the house show here at the end of May he probably spent about an hour out back chatting with random people, signing autos, taking pictures with kids, etc. He was probably the only guy who was out there for more than a few minutes, and only left when someone yelled at him and told him to get inside. It's nice that a class guy like that might finally get an opportunity.

(edited by BigVitoMark on 7.7.04 1221)


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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.62
    Originally posted by BigVitoMark
    I'm sure we're all jinxing it by making mention of the trend, but yeah, since GAB they have done more for the cruisers than they have in a long time. Now, whether that's actually a sign of the direction they're taking or just a sad commentary on how bad things have been, who's to say. But combine the fact that they let a cruiser kill off Mordecai last week and had no less than eight cruisers on the show for non-squash purposes this week and I guess there's reason for optimism. Maybe someone with input saw how bad GAB was and said 'no more'.

    On a personal level, I'm very glad to see Paul London finally get something. At the house show here at the end of May he probably spent about an hour out back chatting with random people, signing autos, taking pictures with kids, etc. He was probably the only guy who was out there for more than a few minutes, and only left when someone yelled at him and told him to get inside. It's nice that a class guy like that might finally get an opportunity.

    (edited by BigVitoMark on 7.7.04 1221)


I met London at the TNA 1st year anniversary show last year and you couldn't ask for a nicer guy. Since then, I've really been a fan of his.




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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.68
    Originally posted by Hurrikane757k
    A pair of cruisers win the tag titles, and a 6-man cruiser match on Smackdown? Did somebody tie and gag Tom Pritchard in a closet for tonight's show?

I'm sorry, I just HAD to correct this- it's BRUCE Pritchard who writes Smackdown, while Tom is a trainer in OVW (I think.)

I'm really happy London/Kidman won the tag titles...I became a fan of the team watching them on Velocity. But I don't know how much "prestige" that belt has left.

(edited by geemoney on 7.7.04 1644)


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