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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.60
According to Meltzer, Earl Hebner, the most famous referee in WWE, was fired earlier today for selling merchandise without authorization. I certainly didn't see this one coming.

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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 10.00
Figure Mike Choida becomes head ref of RAW, as he was before he got traded over - which was due to issues with Brian Hebner, if I recall correctly. Unless he's involved, I'm sure Brian is unaffected, past troubles or not. Chris Kay gets to be a full time guy, probably on the RAW side, and everyone's happy they got used to him and him used to them before this happened.

So you end up with

RAW
Choida
Jack Doan *
Chad Patten
Chris Kay

SD!
Nick Patrick
Brian Hebner
Jim Korderas
Charles Robinson

I have a disability: I can not keep Doan and Patten seperate in my mind. Since neither has been treated as 'senior' ref before, maybe they move Korderas over and put Kay on SD!? Horrible RAW bias indeed!



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#3 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.77
    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    Figure Mike Choida becomes head ref of RAW, as he was before he got traded over - which was due to issues with Brian Hebner, if I recall correctly. Unless he's involved, I'm sure Brian is unaffected, past troubles or not. Chris Kay gets to be a full time guy, probably on the RAW side, and everyone's happy they got used to him and him used to them before this happened.

    So you end up with

    RAW
    Choida
    Jack Doan *
    Chad Patten
    Chris Kay

    SD!
    Nick Patrick
    Brian Hebner
    Jim Korderas
    Charles Robinson

    I have a disability: I can not keep Doan and Patten seperate in my mind. Since neither has been treated as 'senior' ref before, maybe they move Korderas over and put Kay on SD!? Horrible RAW bias indeed!


What "issues" did Choida have with Brian Hebner?



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.45
    Originally posted by thecubsfan
    Figure Mike Choida becomes head ref of RAW, as he was before he got traded over - which was due to issues with Brian Hebner, if I recall correctly. Unless he's involved, I'm sure Brian is unaffected, past troubles or not. Chris Kay gets to be a full time guy, probably on the RAW side, and everyone's happy they got used to him and him used to them before this happened.

    So you end up with

    RAW
    Choida
    Jack Doan *
    Chad Patten
    Chris Kay

    SD!
    Nick Patrick
    Brian Hebner
    Jim Korderas
    Charles Robinson

    I have a disability: I can not keep Doan and Patten seperate in my mind. Since neither has been treated as 'senior' ref before, maybe they move Korderas over and put Kay on SD!? Horrible RAW bias indeed!
Doan has been there longer than Patton - I can remember Doan because he was a ring attendant right up until....WM9, I want to say. Razor Ramon would always say to him "something happen to this gold, something going to happen to you" - and then I think Tony Chimel was stuck with the job until HE became the regular ring announcer. This has been another episode of "Pointless Nostalgia with CRZ"

Old scans from one of the WWE Annuals:
http://imagen.CRZ.net/wwerefs1.jpg
http://imagen.CRZ.net/wwerefs2.jpg

OUT: E. Hebner, Sparks, White
IN: Kay? (ovwrestling.com)

I agree with your depth chart above - Korderas HAS been there longer than B. Hebner, but it does seem like they've been higher on him for a few years now...to the point that even Robinson seems at least equal to Korderas.

It's C-h-i-o-d-a, by the way. (Keep in mind that I feel for Meltzer's "Ciota" trap for YEARS.)

(edited by CRZ on 19.7.05 0114)


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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.20
hmmm....So are his son brian and his twin brother Dave still going to work for WWE?



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.10
Earl used to have a store here in town that sold memorabilia. It was called something like Earl Hebner's Wrestling Memorabilia and Patio Furniture. No really, it was. Maybe ~Dean or some other Richmonder might be able to help me out here. Anyway, the point is, Earl selling merch isn't wrong unless somehow they are just now finding out or the stuff was stolen.




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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.37
So wait, was Tim White the ref who got hurt (I think his shoulder) in that cage match and couldn't work for a short time period?

    Originally posted by CRZ
    OUT: E. Hebner, Sparks, White


When did White leave WWE?



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.63
    Originally posted by Jackson
    Earl used to have a store here in town that sold memorabilia. It was called something like Earl Hebner's Wrestling Memorabilia and Patio Furniture. No really, it was. Maybe ~Dean or some other Richmonder might be able to help me out here. Anyway, the point is, Earl selling merch isn't wrong unless somehow they are just now finding out or the stuff was stolen.



I was wondering what he has done exactly. What you say gives me a somewhat more logical idea of what happened.
I would assume he sold memorabilia without permission.

I imagined him selling outdated wrestler shirts from the back of his car at an arena parking lot

Very stupid of Earl if this alone is the reason for his firing. He received a hefty salary..





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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.56
Somewhere Bret Hart is smiling.

Seriously though, it had to be either counterfiet merch or stolen I would think. Either that, or selling it as an unauthorized, non licensed kind of way. Either way, so long Earl, I hope somebody else can flop and take a bump and lay down as long as you.

Being there since 88. wouldnt that make him the longest on screen employee they had?

(edited by StaggerLee on 19.7.05 0407)
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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.80
    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    Somewhere Bret Hart is smiling.

    Seriously though, it had to be either counterfiet merch or stolen I would think. Either that, or selling it as an unauthorized, non licensed kind of way. Either way, so long Earl, I hope somebody else can flop and take a bump and lay down as long as you.

    Being there since 88. wouldnt that make him the longest on screen employee they had?

    (edited by StaggerLee on 19.7.05 0407)

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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.83
Does this mean we see Hebner come in and pull a massive screwjob on somebody in TNA?



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.37
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    Does this mean we see Hebner come in and pull a massive screwjob on somebody in TNA?


First thought that came to me when hearing he was let go was "I hope TNA picks him up." But then I thought, why? Yes he was a staple in WWE for years but I really don't see a need for TNA to try to get him. Plus, he has been doing this for what, just under 20 years? I can see him hanging his striped shirt up for good.

(edited by XPacArmy on 19.7.05 0622)

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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.56
When was the last time Finkle was on RAW or Smackdown? I dont recall him being there in a very long time.

Hopefully Earl will go to TNA and reprise the original Fozny role from ECW. A by the book ref who'd DQ you for using a closed fist. THAT would rule. Okay, maybe not. I cant really see him being worth THAT much to anybody. Hopefully he made a LOT of money off his merchendise sales.
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.67
    Originally posted by BigDaddyLoco
    Does this mean we see Hebner come in and pull a massive screwjob on somebody in TNA?


This is great news for TNA -- they could steal WWE's biggest money angle ever: Bret Hart vs. Earl Hebner.

Ah, okay, maybe not...
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.23
    Originally posted by XPacArmy
    So wait, was Tim White the ref who got hurt (I think his shoulder) in that cage match and couldn't work for a short time period?

      Originally posted by CRZ
      OUT: E. Hebner, Sparks, White


    When did White leave WWE?


Didn't Tim White's elbow/shoulder/whatever keep popping out every time he slapped the mat hard. IIRC, he had a match at WMXX as a swansong.
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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.52
I'm shocked and appalled that no one's made the obvious "Earl screwed Earl" joke, at least until I just did.



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#17 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.15
Man, who's going to tip off 2-counts with an obvious body contortion now (the Earl Shuffle, as I like to call it)...?
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#18 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.52

    Doan has been there longer than Patton - I can remember Doan because he was a ring attendant right up until....WM9, I want to say.

I'm sure Doan was let go from the company for a good while not too long ago. Only reason I remember is he was one of my favourite refs at the time and I was pissed when I heard he'd been released. Thankfully he came back a year or two later.

Not bothered whatsoever about Hebner. He's been one of the worst refs in the whole company for the last 5 years. Only guy I can think of who was significantly worse was Teddy Long. Robinson, Chioda and Korderas are all much better.
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#19 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.45
Doan took some time off because he wanted to be closer to his family, but he "missed the rush" and went back to the WWF. He's also responsible for bringing Chad Patton in as a ref.

(edited by Zundian on 19.7.05 1501)


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#20 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.71
    Originally posted by Jonny_English
      Originally posted by XPacArmy
      So wait, was Tim White the ref who got hurt (I think his shoulder) in that cage match and couldn't work for a short time period?

        Originally posted by CRZ
        OUT: E. Hebner, Sparks, White


      When did White leave WWE?


    Didn't Tim White's elbow/shoulder/whatever keep popping out every time he slapped the mat hard. IIRC, he had a match at WMXX as a swansong.


White destroyed his shoulder during a HitC match. (I'm thinking HHH-v-Jericho?), upon his comeback, it was just too fragile.
I would assume he now stays at home and runs his bar.




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