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Nate The Snake
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Okay, so I'm sitting here slaughtering poor helpless Chinese soldiers, and my mind gets to wandering... this series is (loosely) based on actual events in Chinese history, right? The characters are, essentially, folk heros and historical figures.

My question is, would that sort of thing work with American history? Granted, we don't have anywhere near as much to work with... but would you guys play, say, a game set during the Revolutionary or Civil wars, with famous figures from the time as your characters?



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It would have to be done right, because it seems we don't have too many heroes from are pass our past. At least that's what I think, unless you are counting the gunslingers. I think as aAmericans we pretty much rape are our heroes and had to get all the dirt, so that takes alot a lot of the hero out of them.

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The Dynasty Warriors series is by far my favorite game franchise. Aside from Pike's hideous spelling, they have a point - the only real way I could see this being Americanized is by making it some sort of gunslinger game - and I'd have no idea how much fun the DW games would be with projectile weapons... I mean, Huang Zhong is fun, but not all the time.

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I don't think that any American historical events and persons could be used to make a game like this. If you go back in history, you could find examples in Western culture. The Three Kingdoms period in Chinese history has been compared the the legends of King Arthur's time. Maybe something could be made out of that. You could also go back to Roman, Greek, or Medieval Europe.

I've been meaning to play Dynasty Warriors, since I have played the death out of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms strategy games. Am I correct in assuming that, by getting DW4, there would be no need to consider the older three versions?



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#5 Posted on

    Originally posted by Overmind
    I don't think that any American historical events and persons could be used to make a game like this. If you go back in history, you could find examples in Western culture. The Three Kingdoms period in Chinese history has been compared the the legends of King Arthur's time. Maybe something could be made out of that. You could also go back to Roman, Greek, or Medieval Europe.

    I've been meaning to play Dynasty Warriors, since I have played the death out of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms strategy games. Am I correct in assuming that, by getting DW4, there would be no need to consider the older three versions?



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I was thinking along the same lines as what Overmind had suggested, once I realized that yeah, it'd never work with American-oriented mass combats due to the firearms factor...

Medieval Europe in general, however, would work quite well. You'd have to change things a bit, since many of the figures weren't as connected as the ones in the Three Kingdoms period... but, still, it'd be quite a trip to whack your way through a huge combat as, say, William Wallace or something along those lines.

Question is, who'd do it? Would it be possible to get Koei to use their engine for something that ISN'T based on ancient Chinese history?



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The only way I see it working with a American theme is with like firemen, and cops. I like to see something like that running around busting crimals, like a anti GTA.



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Personally, part of the appeal of the Dynasty Warriors series is the setting, the almost-mythical heroes of yesteryear waging war against each other. Having known these characters since the NES days with Destiny of an Emperor, I'm kinda attached to them. If they were to use the same engine for a different time period though, I think they'd either do a Warring States Period of Japan game (Oda Nobunaga, Tokugawa Ieyasu, etc.), or some sort of European amalgamation. Maybe a Crusades-based game, letting you play as King Richard or Saladin, as well as others of the time? Then again, that would probably be received badly, given the current global climate.

I don't think they could do an American version without overhauling the game engine, simply because Americans didn't fight with melee weapons.

One final thing.. Koei did release a couple of other similar games. Mystic Heroes used the same engine in a more fantasy-style setting, geared for younger players. What about Crimson Sea? That one was released for X-Box, I believe, and thus I've never played it. Is it the same engine, only futuristic?
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I could probably see a decent version of this taking place in the Crusades...

Although the notion of facing off against a shamshir-flourishing Kilij Arslan gives me a bit of a chill. I would pay money for such a thing.
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I'd kinda like to see a game like that set in Dark Ages Britain and Ireland, when the islands were split up between hundreds of eternally squabbling kings and tribes -- but then, Celtic mythology is one of my "things" and I don't know if anyone else's blood would race at the chance to play Cuchulain, Finn Mac Cool, Gwydion ap Don, or the "real" King Arthur.



"next to of course god america i
love you land of the pilgrims' and so forth oh
say can you see by the dawn's early my
country tis of centuries come and go
and are no more what of it we should worry
in every language even deafanddumb
thy sons acclaim your glorious name by gorry
by jingo by gee by gosh by gum
why talk of beauty what could be more beaut-
iful than these heroic happy dead
who rushed like lions to the roaring slaughter
they did not stop to think they died instead
then shall the voice of liberty be mute?"

He spoke. And drank rapidly a glass of water
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