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#1 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.60

from E! Online:

"FOCK IT: Dustin Hoffman set to play Ben Stiller's dad in Meet the Fockers, the sequel to the 2000 comedy hit Meet the Parents. Robert De Niro, Blythe Danner and Teri Polo also return in their original roles."

So much for my hopes of getting Jerry Stiller play the dad ...



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#2 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.96
    Originally posted by Mayhem

    from E! Online:

    "FOCK IT: Dustin Hoffman set to play Ben Stiller's dad in Meet the Fockers, the sequel to the 2000 comedy hit Meet the Parents. Robert De Niro, Blythe Danner and Teri Polo also return in their original roles."

    So much for my hopes of getting Jerry Stiller play the dad ...


And another great dramatic actor craps all over his legacy, following in the footsteps of De Niro.



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    Originally posted by Freeway420
    And another great dramatic actor craps all over his legacy, following in the footsteps of De Niro.


I think that happened after he signed on to play Captain Hook over a decade ago.



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#4 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.58
Nu uh. Hook was freaking awesome. Don't you give me that look.

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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.22
How is this crapping on his legacy? Meet The Parents, unlike everything else DeNiro's done in the last ten years, was actually a pretty good film, which means the chances for the sequel are good too. Ol' Bobby may have pissed away his past o other projects, but just because Big Dust decides to come along on one of his better outings doesn't mean the stink's gonna rub off on him. And yes, while Hook fell flat, Hoffman-as-Hook RULED.



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#6 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.35
Oh geeze.

I hated Meet the Parents.

It should have been called, How Many Ways Can We Write Asinine and Convenient Situations That Make Ben Stiller Even More Unfunny?

Add in Owen "Can't Act His Way Out of a Nut Sack" Wilson and you should have a sequel called Bucket of Suck

If Ben Stiller, Owen and Luke Wilson all died in some horrible industrial accident (involving something caustic), I don't think I'll be too concerned about it.

IMO. :D



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#7 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.96
I'll use the arguable jumping points for both Hoffman & DeNiro: Hook for Hoffman & DeNiro's first major comedic movie, Analyze This.

Robert DeNiro's Awards:
PRE-ANALYZE THIS:
Oscar nominations in 1975, 1977, 1979, 1981, 1991 & 1992 (including wins in 1975 & 1981)
Golden Globe nominations 1977, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1989 & 1992 (including the win in 1981)
5 MTV Movie Award nominations
ANALYZE THIS:
Golden Globe nomination for Best Actor in a Musical or Comedy
POST-ANALYZE THIS:
Golden Globe nomination for Best Actor in a Musical or Comedy in 2001 for Meet the Parents
2 MTV Movie Award nominations, including a win for Best Line From A Movie

Dustin Hoffman's Awards:
PRE-HOOK:
Oscar nominations in 1968, 1970, 1975, 1980, 1983 & 1989 (including wins in 1980 & 1989)
Golden Globe nominations in 1968 (two), 1970 (two), 1975, 1977, 1980, 1983, 1986 & 1992 (including five wins)
HOOK:
Golden Globe nomination for Best Actor in a Musical or Comedy
POST-HOOK:
Oscar nomination in 1998
Golden Globe nomination in 1998, and the illustrious Cecil B. DeMille Award in 1997

I think it's arguable that Hoffman might have the same lack of success after delving into comedic acting than De Niro did, but Hoffman's still doing good work after going into comedies...as long as he isn't making an ASS of himself (does Rocky & Bullwinkle ring a bell?)



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#8 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.82
I really think Ishtar would've had more to do with Hoffman crapping on his legacy than anything. And, if he can pick himself up off the mat after that, then he can do whatever the hell he wants.

(edited by Captain_12_Pack on 21.1.04 2049)


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#9 Posted on | Instant Rating: 7.13
To be fair though, in your comparisons, Analyze This was released in 1999 (~ five years ago), whereas Hook was released in 1991* (~ thirteen years ago). Given that, it would make sense that Hoffman would have had more accolades since Hook compared to De Niro since AT. Let's see...

Average # of Accolades/year:

De Niro:

Pre AT:
6 Oscar Noms + 2 wins + 6 Globe Noms + 1 win + 5 MTV noms = 14
Number of years = 1999 - 1975 = 24.
Ratio = 14/24 = .583

Post AT:
2 Globe Noms (AT + MtP) + 2 MTV Noms = 4
Number of years = 2004 - 1999 = 5
Ratio = 4/5 = .800

Hoffman:

Pre Hook:

6 Oscar Noms + 2 wins + 10 Globe Noms + 5 wins = 23
Number of years = 1991* - 1968 = 23 years
Ratio = 23/23 = 1.00

Post Hook:

1 Globe Nom (for Hook) + 1 Oscar Nom + 1 Globe Nom + DeMille = 4
Years = 2004 - 1991* = 13
Ratio = 4/13 = .308

If anything, the argument can be made that while Hook killed Hoffman's career, De Niro's riding higher than ever.

*According to this (imdb.com), Hook was released in 1991. You list some of Hoffman's pre-Hook accolades as 1992. I counted them as pre-Hook for my calculations (all based off the stats provided). Do with this what you may.

(edited by EddieBurkett on 21.1.04 2210)


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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.59
    Originally posted by ThreepMe
    Oh geeze.

    I hated Meet the Parents.

    It should have been called, How Many Ways Can We Write Asinine and Convenient Situations That Make Ben Stiller Even More Unfunny?

    Add in Owen "Can't Act His Way Out of a Nut Sack" Wilson and you should have a sequel called Bucket of Suck

    If Ben Stiller, Owen and Luke Wilson all died in some horrible industrial accident (involving something caustic), I don't think I'll be too concerned about it.

    IMO. :D


So I'm guessing that you're gonna be first in line to see the Ben Stiller/Owen Wilson remake of Starky & Hutch when it hits theaters.



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#11 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.35
    Originally posted by Mayhem
      Originally posted by ThreepMe
      Oh geeze.

      I hated Meet the Parents.

      It should have been called, How Many Ways Can We Write Asinine and Convenient Situations That Make Ben Stiller Even More Unfunny?

      Add in Owen "Can't Act His Way Out of a Nut Sack" Wilson and you should have a sequel called Bucket of Suck

      If Ben Stiller, Owen and Luke Wilson all died in some horrible industrial accident (involving something caustic), I don't think I'll be too concerned about it.

      IMO. :D


    So I'm guessing that you're gonna be first in line to see the Ben Stiller/Owen Wilson remake of Starky & Hutch when it hits theaters.


I don't know...Snoop Dogg as Huggy Bear sounds pretty cool. And it's hard to go wrong with Vince Vaugn. Plus Juliette Lewis and Will Ferrell. So the supporting cast doesn't sound too horrible.

But if it had a cameo of Samuel L. Jackson as Shaft (One bad mutha...), then I think I may be able to tolerate it.

Plus the Director is the guy who directed Old School and that was allright I guess.

Ohh! Maybe they will both get shot and then I can cheer. That makes me feel warm and fuzzy.



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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.22
"Add in Owen "Can't Act His Way Out of a Nut Sack" Wilson"

Get out before I shoot you. To death.



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#13 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.35
    Originally posted by oldschoolhero
    "Add in Owen "Can't Act His Way Out of a Nut Sack" Wilson"

    Get out before I shoot you. To death.


Why? When I can hide behind Owen Wilson't huge schnoz and avoid all damage. Then I'll turn out the lights and bring in Fran Drescher and have them both talk and you won't know which direction to shoot!

MUHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Seriously, look at that thing...It's huge, no wonder he talks out of it.



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