Originally posted by Matt TrackerI'd just like to add that nothing has made me look forward to SmackDown more than the prospect of hearing Tazz's theme, one of the best ever. If he comes out with the draped towel and the fog, forget it, I'm cheering like a child.
If only it was the No Sleep Till Brooklyn/War Machine mix he used in ECW. The WWE version of his music was, less than impressive.
No, sorry, I mean the "If You Dare" WWE theme. The heartbeat, the drums, the heavy guitar. The one before the Cypress Hill "Superstar" remix. I use it on one of my workout CDs. It's great running music.
"To be the man, you gotta beat demands." -- The Lovely Mrs. Tracker
Originally posted by QuezzyIf speculation of HBK is going to Smackdown is true then that's another matchup for Benoit. I know they've wrested before but it was never really a one on one feud but part of the three way feud with Triple H.
Plug HBK into a Triple Threat with Angle and Benoit and I think that could headline a few dozen PPV's.
Let's throw Eddie in there for good measure.
I, for one, am looking forward to another good ol' fashioned Guerrero/Benoit feud.
I'm curious as to the championship situation that Teddy Long said would be addressed after the draft. Let's say that Cena stays on RAW with the WWE Championship ...
Does RAW have a unification match between the two champions & Smackdown crown a new champ (via another tournament?)
Originally posted by QuezzyIf speculation of HBK is going to Smackdown is true then that's another matchup for Benoit. I know they've wrested before but it was never really a one on one feud but part of the three way feud with Triple H.
Plug HBK into a Triple Threat with Angle and Benoit and I think that could headline a few dozen PPV's.
Let's throw Eddie in there for good measure.
I, for one, am looking forward to another good ol' fashioned Guerrero/Benoit feud.
I'm curious as to the championship situation that Teddy Long said would be addressed after the draft. Let's say that Cena stays on RAW with the WWE Championship ...
Does RAW have a unification match between the two champions & Smackdown crown a new champ (via another tournament?)
Ooh, good question. And I’m having to wonder if that might not be an even more interesting way to address the situation for both shows.
But as a follow-up on this: what would you call the new championship? “World Heavyweight Champion” and “WWE Champion” are both taken.
For some reason, I see Edge stealing the belt (Money in the Bank~!) after the Hell in the Cell and getting drafted for Smackdown as its new World Champion.
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Originally posted by MayhemI'm curious as to the championship situation that Teddy Long said would be addressed after the draft. Let's say that Cena stays on RAW with the WWE Championship ...
Does RAW have a unification match between the two champions & Smackdown crown a new champ (via another tournament?)
Long can always say the Cena Bling Belt is his own championship like with the Million Dollar Belt and use the official belt for the SD championship.
"To be the man, you gotta beat demands." -- The Lovely Mrs. Tracker
Originally posted by MayhemI'm curious as to the championship situation that Teddy Long said would be addressed after the draft. Let's say that Cena stays on RAW with the WWE Championship ...
Does RAW have a unification match between the two champions & Smackdown crown a new champ (via another tournament?)
Long can always say the Cena Bling Belt is his own championship like with the Million Dollar Belt and use the official belt for the SD championship.
Considering that the title Cena has is the one that has the half-century's worth of lineage, I can't see them blowing up that much continuity for the sake of this. They'll move the Big Gold Belt to Smackdown before they do that.
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Originally posted by Blanket JacksonConsidering that the title Cena has is the one that has the half-century's worth of lineage, I can't see them blowing up that much continuity for the sake of this. They'll move the Big Gold Belt to Smackdown before they do that.
Long can argue that Cena went to RAW with the Bling Belt alone. We didn't see the SD title on Monday. That would leave the loophole that Cena forfeited that lineage belt, especially if he doesn't defend that belt within 30 days. The belt then reverts to SD.
"To be the man, you gotta beat demands." -- The Lovely Mrs. Tracker
Originally posted by Blanket JacksonConsidering that the title Cena has is the one that has the half-century's worth of lineage, I can't see them blowing up that much continuity for the sake of this. They'll move the Big Gold Belt to Smackdown before they do that.
Long can argue that Cena went to RAW with the Bling Belt alone. We didn't see the SD title on Monday. That would leave the loophole that Cena forfeited that lineage belt, especially if he doesn't defend that belt within 30 days. The belt then reverts to SD.
Except that playing by the continuity rules, it was a drafting, not a defection and we had been told all along that there was no such thing as a champion's exemption. This is exactly what we got teased with last year on the premise of the draft lottery and it didn't deliver.
He didn't leave Smackdown so much as his name was selected to go to RAW. The fact that he just so happens to have a custom belt at the moment doesn't really have anything to do with the rest of what's going on IMO.
"Did you get your Journalism degree from a box of Cocoa Puffs?"
Originally posted by Blanket JacksonExcept that playing by the continuity rules, it was a drafting, not a defection and we had been told all along that there was no such thing as a champion's exemption. This is exactly what we got teased with last year on the premise of the draft lottery and it didn't deliver.
He didn't leave Smackdown so much as his name was selected to go to RAW. The fact that he just so happens to have a custom belt at the moment doesn't really have anything to do with the rest of what's going on IMO.
This is a Blanket statement.
I've been waiting to use that joke for a while.
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On the RAW Superstars page, Cena is listed as coming over & taking the WWE championship with him.
I wonder if, in any way, ECW will have anything to do with the world championships. Sure it's a loooooooooongshot, but it's something that could be a small factor in the whole equation.
I don't know for sure what they'll do with the Title situation, but I suspect (and really, really hope) that they'll just move Cena back to Smackdown! They could strip him of the title to keep the WWE Title on Smackdown!, but that would involve Cena not being the champion, and I think based on the way that they're trying to make him a star, that that isn't going to happen.
I guess the other option would be for the World Heavyweight Champion to be drafter over to Smackdown!, but somehow I think that would mean Batista losing the title and Edge or Triple H winning it. Even though I've been a bit underwhelmed by Batista's reign as champion, I'm not ready to see him lose it just yet.
Maybe, HHH beats Bastita at Hell in the Cell and then has a unification match with Cena effectively killing him and laughs all the way home.
Ok, just kidding.
Only reason I'm sad Benoit is going to SD is that I don't get to watch that as much as Raw. But the posters have been right, the WWE has kept him strong and the fans like him, much more so than I would've expected. And I love him.
I get the feeling Edge will go to SD with the title too, but theres no way hes gonna lose Lita already.
Originally posted by Mayhem On the RAW Superstars page, Cena is listed as coming over & taking the WWE championship with him.
I wonder if, in any way, ECW will have anything to do with the world championships. Sure it's a loooooooooongshot, but it's something that could be a small factor in the whole equation.
The only problem is that WWE fired the ECW Champ a couple months ago. (At least he gets another payday this weekend, though.)
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I think this is the first time in a long while that there is actual mystery regarding the WWE and in a good way...and we won't know for a month what's gonna happen in the end. This is what they've needed for a long time, something to grab your attention for a prolonged period, even if just for a month, and leave you on the edge of your seat.
I love the month long lottery, it's like Christmas 4 Mondays in a row. That in itself is awesome, but now the mystery about what will happen with the WWE/WHC title pictures, and which will go over to Smackdown, if that was to happen.
Since we're on a fantasy booking kick here, how about this?
Since EVERYONE and ANYONE can be drafted, what if Vince gets sent to Smackdown and takes it upon himself to order Cena or Batista or whoever onto his show?
I have a feeling that there will be a GM shakeup of some kind that is going to make things a lot more complicated.
Originally posted by StevieRichardsSince we're on a fantasy booking kick here, how about this?
Since EVERYONE and ANYONE can be drafted, what if Vince gets sent to Smackdown and takes it upon himself to order Cena or Batista or whoever onto his show?
I have a feeling that there will be a GM shakeup of some kind that is going to make things a lot more complicated.
But Vince isn't a member of either roster. He's above the split. So I don't see how he could be drafted, any more than Linda or the "WWE Board of Directors" could be drafted.
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A Brief History of Time...er...The WWE Title Picture:
1962: Lou Thesz defeats NWA Champion Buddy Rogers in one fall. Since most title matches were three falls, several promoters (mostly in the Northeast) don't recognize Thesz's title victory and create the WWWF Championship. Rogers wins a "tournament" in Rio de Jineiro in March 1963 to claim the title. 1971: WWWF joins NWA, WWWF Title becomes secondary belt. 1979: WWWF becomes WWF. WWF Champion Bob Backlund wrestles AWA Champion Nick Bockwinkle to double countout on March 25th. 1980: WWF Champion Bob Backlund wrestles NWA Champion Harley Race (and wins by DQ) on September 22nd. 1982: WWF Champion Bob Backlund wrestles NWA Champion Ric Flair to double count-out on July 4th. 1983: WWF withdraws from NWA, WWF Title becomes major belt again. 2000: WCW Champion Chris Benoit vacates (or is stripped of, depending on which company line you listened to) title and signs with WWF in January. WWF Champion Triple H wrestles Chris Benoit in a non-title match televised on the February 3rd Smackdown program. WWF Champion Triple H beats ECW Champion Tazz in a non-title match televised on the April 20th Smackdown program. 2001: WWF buys WCW in March. WWF Champion Steve Austin aligns with WCW & ECW invaders during the summer months, marking the "first time the WWF Title has been held by a wrestler from another company" (J.R., paraphrased). However, since Austin is a recognized and semi-disputed champion who defended the title as scheduled, the WWF couldn't strip the title. Austin & WWF wrestler Kurt Angle traded title wins, and then the WCW/ECW Alliance was dissolved after Survivor Series. WCW Championship defended on WWF shows beginning in July. After Survivor Series, WCW Title is renamed World Title. Chris Jericho unifies the WWF & WCW Titles in a one-night tournament on December 9th, with the resulting title renamed the Undisputed WWF Title. 2002: Undisputed WWF Title defended. Due to strife between WWF co-owners Ric Flair & Vince McMahon, roster is split between RAW & Smackdown television programs with only the Undisputed & Women's Champions appearing on both shows. WWF becomes WWE in May. Brock Lesnar beats Undisputed Champion The Rock on August 25th and announces on the August 26th RAW program that he will only defend the title on Smackdown (and only against Smackdown wrestlers). The RAW program withdraws recognition of Lesnar (and the Undisputed Title) and awards #1 contender (and RAW wrestler) Triple H the new World Title for use exclusively on the RAW program. Undisputed renamed the WWE Title.
Basically, the WWF Title (and later the Undisputed belt) was to recognize the best wrestler in the WWF. When the brands were split, the respective belts were to recognize the best wrestler on that particular program (just as the WCW & ECW titles were to denote the best wrestlers in those respective companies).
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The problem with Jericho and Orton in a group is that I see both of them being past the stable stage, especially Y2J... who I don't think has ever been in a stable, mainly because it just doesn't fit his over-the-top personality.