But, I think Mark Henry as a big, BEAST will work for WWE. Finally they give him something where he will only be expected to do big power moves, and just destroy people quickly. His stamina wont come into play, and he can work a quick, squash like match.
Hey, it worked for making the Big Show a serious contender again, it can work for Sexual Chocolate.
Hey, I don't hate you for it at all, I don't have a problem with Sexual Chocolate either. Actually, I dug that whole thing he did with Mae Young (from a comedy perspective of course, and NO I didn't see the hand thing, thank god), so I think he's a good hand. I don't mind him being a playa again, as long as he sticks to ladies close to his own generation, lol.
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I've always thought he was okay. Not a tremendous wrestler or anything, but lots of charisma and just an awesome look to him. Especially when he first joined The Nation a few years back. The guy is huge and he looks like could kill someone and not in a Mabel kind of way.
I agree with you, Stagger. If they keep him in an enforcer type role with limited matches, he could do just fine.
And if that fails, bring back the poem readings.
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Just kidding... I never understood the hate for Mark Henry. I think he can be pretty funny, he just got stuck with some horrible angles. (Umm... Father to the hand baby?) The way I see it, Vince signed him to this ridiculous 10 year contract, so he might as well get SOME of his money's worth.
I think Mark Henry is a heckuva lot better than A-Train, and HE gets plenty of screentime. I look forward to some Theodore Long/Henry skits like I used to look forward to D'Lo and Mark Henry skits (mostly for D'Lo, but Henry was a good straight man).
Yes, he needs to work on his stamina, but as long as he's not in the main event picture, being on the good end of a squash or two is a much better place for Mark Henry than it was for Bob Holly or Bill DeMott.
I really haven't been a Mark Henry fan since he was in The Nation of Domination. But I guess Teddy Long is making his new version of The Nation so it might end up working for me. But just to bring him in as teh "tough man" won't be enough.
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Add another Wiener to the Mark Henry bandwagon, because I've got my ticket ready. Though, I disagree with Ringmistress and lean towards The Sham's line of thinking on his old angles, they blew, and I felt bad he was placed in such horrible angles. I like what Stagger is thinking of, but the WWE are dumb if they're keeping him near Mack, as I think he would be a drawback.
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Add me as well. There were a couple of things I really liked about him.
1)In 1998 during the KOTR tourney, you could see him improve week to week. Hell, he went through Big Van Vader AND Terry Funk consecutive weeks on Raw, and at Breakdown, he he beat the Rock 1, 2, 3. He seemed like this sleeper up and comer, and whoever booked those matches made MH look damn good.
2)He almost had this loveable big oaf aura about him around the time he was with Chyna. The fans liked him because he just wasn't a bad person. I watched an old edition of Heat 1 week before the 99 Royal Rumble, and he seriously got a HUGE ovation when he came out for his match. Not piped in like on Smackdown either. I think people were really into the SC stuff.
They need to bring back that character. If written well, there'd be a lot they could do. Keep it SE, and put him in a few good matches. They really dropped the ball with him IMHO.
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The problem as I see it is EVIL Mark Henry just doesn't seem to work well. He was at his height when he and D-LO were in the angle with Chyna, and you couldn't help but like the character. I think if he goes back to something more like that, he might hold on as a midcarder. This though, I don't see it lasting.
Anything that keeps Theodore Long on my TV ... that guy cracks me up ... and it looks like they could have an impressive stable with Mack, Henry and Jazz ... I could see these guys challenging for the World tag titles in the future ... now buh lee dat ...
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I think Mark Henry has good versatility as a character in terms of working as a heel or a face, but let's be honest...he flat out sucks as a wrestler. He worked as a tag team partner for D-Lo because he'd only have to be in the ring for about two minutes per match. He could very well work in this new role with Teddy Long and Rodney Mack, despite the fact that I think his goofy charisma better suits him to be a face.
This is precisely the role Mark Henry should have been cast in all along. Any chance he might have of getting over as a single would be shot by his horrible, horrible matches. But, if they can play to his strength and keep him out of the ring, he could be a valuable midcard player.
Originally posted by The ShamI think Mark Henry is a heckuva lot better than A-Train, and HE gets plenty of screentime.
You couldn't be farther from the truth.
Mark Henry can't wrestle. He's got no clue what he's doing in the ring, and would be lost in any match over 2 minutes. He's got no grasp of simple match psychology.
A-Train has a good moveset, which he mixes up pretty well. A-Train doesn't need someone to hold his hand through a match. A-Train has a grasp on ring psychology (working the back to set up his back-related finisher).
In short, A-Train > Mark Henry, and it's not even close.
I'll go 1 step further - A-Train is the best "hoss" in the company.
I must disagree on that. A-Train is a much better wrestler than Henry, but I think Test and Kane are both better than A-Train. If they don't count as hosses, you've got something, though.
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Test can't put a match together, and is lost when it comes to utilizing ring psychology. While I'm not calling A-Train a ring general, he's much better at keeping things together in the ring than Test, IMO. A-Train > Test.
Kane's got weak strikes, and uses the same set of generic big-man moves every match. Maybe it's just personal preference, but I just find Kane incredibly boring, present gimmick/storyline included.
I think Test just misses the "hoss" label, but Kane is one.
Spiff is right about Henry. Here is why Mark Henry is so bad:
1. He can't wrestle- He does look lost in the ring. And despite having been with the company for many, many years, he hasn't shown any sign of improvement in at least 4 years.
2. He can't act- His angles with Chyna and Mae Young were not only stupid, but Henry was a worse actor than both women. He is Torrie-level bad as an actor. But then again, that still puts him above Stephanie.
3. He hasn't returned the investment put in him- This is in part Vince's fault for signing him to a 10 year deal, but as I said Mark hasn't improved to become even passable as a wrestler. He is injury-prone and the WWE can't get rid of him fast enough. He tops the lists of having done so little with so much money given to him.
By the way, while I hate Test, he is worlds better than A-Train in the ring. Kane is also better than A-Train. It goes Kane > Test > A-Train > Giant Gonzalez > Mark Henry.
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Originally posted by TorchslasherIt goes Kane > Test > A-Train > Giant Gonzalez > Mark Henry.
Ouch to Mark Henry on that one.
Yes Ouch, Giant Gonzalez, a goddamn ouch!
I'll agree with those who said he has a positive charisma about him. So let me shoot you this idea to you, a heel bodyguard role for Matt Hardy.
For one this would eliminate his weakness, which is in ring ability, as he rarely if ever would be in the ring. At the same time it would give him good exposure without risking yet another injury. Secondly, it would generate a shitload of heat for Hardy. Yeah, the snot nosed little guy with the obligatory monster as his back.
The big drawback to this is that Henry hasn't been taken seriously for years, instede he has always been the comic goof who always get programed into angles with the women. Plus the WWE has closed there mind to serious characters. So, as a bodyguard, he'd end up more of a Virgil then a Diesel.
By the way, while I hate Test, he is worlds better than A-Train in the ring
"Worlds better"? How so? Test just pulls off some random moves, then does his finisher, w/out showing any kind of rudimentary grasp os psychology. A-Train at least works the back the majority of the time leading to his finisher. Test is certainly quicker than A-Train, but that doesn't translate into "better." A-Train has gotten much better since he's been in the WWE, while Test has shown marginal improvement, at best.
A-Train's good in the ring, but I wouldn't put him ahead of 'Taker in the "Best Hoss" stakes just yet. Taker's got some decent moves, buckets of in-ring charisma, and an ~OLD SCHOOL~ grasp of psychology. I'm totally with DEAN on his current resurgence.
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I really liked JR and Paul Heyman. I though the actual hatred they had for each other brought out the best int heir announcing. The subtle (an dnot so subtle) digs at each other made me listen to RAW more that I had done in the past decade or so.