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Personally, I think it's pathetic that four teams were even racing for him at all, but what's done is done and the smoke has cleared.

ESPN.com - MLB - Garciaparra agrees to one-year deal with Dodgers

I'm absolutely stunned by what's going to be the projected defense of the Dodgers.

1B - Nomar Garciaparra (!)
SS - Rafael Furcal
2B - Jeff Kent
?? - Cesar Izturis

Gotta love the foresight...unless of course, Cesar is secretly trade bait.




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1B/OF? That makes no sense, but where else is he going to play? One of the better suggestions I'd seen is to use him more as a Chone Figgins supersub, but he's probably too routine-oriented for that.



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I don't see why Nomar can't play first - he did a capable job filling in at third for the Cubs last year. And I'm guessing that the .320 lifetime average is the reason teams were flocking to pick him up. One of these years, he figures to stay healthy, right?

So for the Dodgers, you're left with Mueller - Furcal - Kent - Garciaparra. Kent is the only defensive liability I see, but he's an offensive second baseman anyway. If ego was not a factor, I might move him to first, and let Nomar try second - but Kent knows his value is greater as a 2B (like Soriano)

I don't know what Coletti had as trade bait, but for him coming in so late, and with this year's crop of free agents, I don't know that a Dodger fan can argue with the infield that's been assembled. Whatever Izturis gives them later in the year is gravy, and maybe you have a nice trading chip next off season.

I guess Red Sox fans have some lingering grudge (that he wasn't Derek Jeter maybe?), but Nomar was nothing but class in Chicago - and he's playing for a contract.
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    Originally posted by TheOldMan
    I don't see why Nomar can't play first - he did a capable job filling in at third for the Cubs last year. And I'm guessing that the .320 lifetime average is the reason teams were flocking to pick him up. One of these years, he figures to stay healthy, right?

    So for the Dodgers, you're left with Mueller - Furcal - Kent - Garciaparra. Kent is the only defensive liability I see, but he's an offensive second baseman anyway. If ego was not a factor, I might move him to first, and let Nomar try second - but Kent knows his value is greater as a 2B (like Soriano)

    I don't know what Coletti had as trade bait, but for him coming in so late, and with this year's crop of free agents, I don't know that a Dodger fan can argue with the infield that's been assembled. Whatever Izturis gives them later in the year is gravy, and maybe you have a nice trading chip next off season.

    I guess Red Sox fans have some lingering grudge (that he wasn't Derek Jeter maybe?), but Nomar was nothing but class in Chicago - and he's playing for a contract.






Nomar at 2nd would be a disaster. With his throwing motion, he wouldn't be able to have his back to the runner trying to turn double plays.
As for reasons why Boston fans have turned on Nomar, I won't speak for everyone, but I'll speak for myself:

1) Doesn't have anything to do with Jeter. Only reason Red Sox fans would say anything nice about Jeter is to tweek A-Rod.

2) 2002: Red Sox are in a Wild Card race mid to late August. Strike is possible. Nomar is more concerned about how the labor agreement would impact little leaguers of the future rather than the playoffs (also, how it would impact him with his contract expiring in two years). That began to sour me a bit on Nomar.

3) 2003: Mid-August. Red Sox are in a tight race. Nixon is hitting well (talk about someone who has gotten a pass the last 2 seasons for poor play), Manny is hitting, this new guy Ortiz has gone berzerk for 6 weeks, and Nomar is having an MVP caliber season. Then, the WUSA folds, and Nomar is much more concerned with where will Yoko, I mean Mia, play soccer than with the playoff race. Nomar hits under .200 the rest of the season and drives in single digit runs in that time frame. He has a big wind aided hit off of Contreras in the 7th inning of Game 6, but, besides that, does little in the Yankees/Red Sox series.

4) pre 2004 offseason: Nomar complains about the Red Sox not wanting him during the A-Rod trade talk (conveniently forgetting he turned down 4 years for 60 million, that would look good to him now), and says he wouldn't move off of shortstop to stay in Boston to play with A-Rod.

5) 2004 spring training: The phantom ball that hits him that no one sees that puts him out for over 2 months.

6) July 1st, 2004: Red Sox are on the verge of getting knocked out of the division after losing game 1 in New York in a rout and game 2 by blowing a late inning lead. Nomar sits out. Jeter dives into the stands to keep the game tied in extra innings. Nomar still is sitting on the bench. Red Sox get swept in New York, then lose 2 out of 3 in Atlanta.

7) Late July, 2004: Nomar decides he needs to rest, playoff race be damned. Nomar gets traded.

8) October 2004: Nomar is sitting at home after helping the Cubs miss the playoffs, while the Red Sox sweep the Angels, come from the dead against the Yankees then sweep the Cardinals to win the World Series.



(edited by redsoxnation on 19.12.05 1037)


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Things don't look good for Izzy. He'll defintely not be close to what he was when he comes back anyhow, so he'll be a highly expensive utility guy once he returns.

In general, for the Dodgers, a solid starting pitcher being brought in would be nice.
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