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#41 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.00
    Originally posted by El Nastio
    CBC News. I mean seriously, how can you expect unbiased news coverage when they get their money from the GOVERNMENT?? They're not going to bite the hand that feeds them. And news flash; it's ok to say SUICIDE BOMBER and BOMBMAN and TERRORISM in a news story.


I worked at the CBC for a couple of years, and they make a conscious decision to be as politically correct as possible only because they have to steer clear of big-time controversy. It's a balancing act, really.

As far the left-wing bias is concerned . . . I won't even attempt to reason with anyone. Though I do wonder if people thought the CBC had a right-wing bias all those times a Conservative government was in power.
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#42 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.69
I now boycott Walmart, only because I worked there and found out how terribly they treat their employees. I'll shop at Zellers, instead.



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#43 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.04
In 1985, the state I lived in enacted a mandatory liability insurance law, and I went insurance shopping. I had been a licensed driver for over two years with no accidents or tickets. Perfectly clean record.

The State Farm agent refused to insure me at any price.

I've been a satisfied Allstate customer ever since.

I will never, ever, do business of any kind with State Farm.

Ever.
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#44 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
My boycott list includes:

Denny's (as a direct result of NickBockwinkleFan's posts in this thread and some subsequent research)

Wal-Mart (mainly for their treatment of workers, though the havoc they wreak on small-town America and independent business are contributing factors)

The St. Petersburg Times (a result of a professional dispute; I'm sure they're really distraught)

The Tampa Tribune (piss-poor reporting done by sleazy, unethical hacks; I'm sure, seeing as how I live in Texas now, that they're really concerned - ditto for the Times)

Tom Cruise movies (which sucks, I was a big fan; too bad he's insane now)

Nike

K-Mart

Target (I will shop at Target as a last resort)

Bob Dylan's music (very painful for me to give up; one of my favorite artists ever)

All record labels - I will only buy music if it is for sale directly from the artist, and I have a gurantee somehow that all my money is going to said artist. I pay for music to show my appreciation of the art, not to line some greedy executive's pockets. This is by far the issue I feel most strongly about of all the things on this list.

I am also trying very hard to convince myself to sell my car to stop feeding the greedy shitheads running the oil companies; but I am weak.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and the newest member of this list - TNA.

(edited by TheBucsFan on 26.9.06 2145)


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#45 Posted on | Instant Rating: 6.04
    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    Denny's (as a direct result of NickBockwinkleFan's posts in this thread and some subsequent research)
Further subsequent research should also tell you that the Denny's of today has come a long way from the Denny's of 1993.

From Denny's website (and mostly verifiable through independent sources)

- Black Enterprise magazine ranked Denny’s at the top of its list of “Best 40 Companies for Diversity” in July 2006.

- “We Share the Dream Award” presented to Rachelle Hood, Denny’s Chief Diversity Officer, at the 18th Annual Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Awards Dinner in Anne Arundel County, Md. on January 13, 2006.

- Hispanic Business Magazine ranked Denny’s #11 in its survey of “Top 40 Companies for Hispanics” in 2005.

- Family Digest magazine selected Denny’s from over 700 U.S. companies as one of the Top 7 in the nation for African-Americans in 2004 and 2005.

- Essence magazine ranked Denny’s as one of “The Best Companies for Black Women” in 2004.

- Fortune magazine continually ranks Denny’s at the top of its survey of “America’s 50 Best Companies for Minorities.” Denny’s ranked No. 2 in 1998; No. 6 in 1999; No. 1 in 2000 and 2001 and No. 3 in 2002 and 2003. The survey is conducted among 1,200 U.S. companies.

- The National Association for Female Executives ranked Denny’s 13th in its 2002 survey of the “Top 25 U.S. Companies for Executive Women.”

- Asian Enterprise magazine ranked Denny’s as one of the “Top 10 Best Companies for Asian-Americans” every year since 1999.

- Latina Style magazine named Denny’s to its Latina Style 50 report, citing the company as one of the 50 best companies in the U.S. for Hispanic women to work.

- The Center for Responsibility in Business awarded Denny’s its 2000 Corporate Conscience Diversity Award for outstanding achievement in corporate social responsibility.

- Denny’s received the 1997 Fair Share Corporate Award for Minority Business Development from the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) in 1997.
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#46 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
    Originally posted by Mr Heel II
    ...


Yes you are right, and I know that. I still decided I don't want to eat there because, coupled with their past, I'm note sure I've ever gotten good service at a Denny's. Thanks a lot, though.

(edited by TheBucsFan on 27.9.06 1052)

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#47 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.33
Veal because of the awful way veal calves are raised to produce tender meat. And I am hardly what you would call a PETA supporter.

I wish I could boycott WalMart but where we live it is literally impossible without driving 50+ miles.



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Since: 17.7.02
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#48 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.85
I currently have no boycotts...however...

If the rumors are true and they do re-hire X-Pac, my soon to be first boycott, WWE. Hate the guy with a passion. I'm sure there are others out there that feel the same.
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Since: 12.1.02
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#49 Posted on | Instant Rating: 2.29
Update from the last time I posted in this thread: My New Year's Resolution for 2006 has been to boycott Wal-Mart, and not spend a single penny in any of their stores. And it's not just a New Year's Resolution; I intend to boycott them indefinitely.

So far I've been successful in doing just that.



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#50 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.88
I will never ever own a cell phone. I don't care how much other people like them, I don't want them and they way others abuse them just makes me not one more. I only pay about $30 a month for my land line from AT&T (that includes long distance calls) and I can talk all I want at any time I want. If I'm not at home or work, I'm probably busy and don't want to take your call. Ugh, this weekend was Rosh Hashanna )jewish New Year) and to hear that annoying ring during our most solemn service made me want to vomit.

Also I never shop at Old Navy, their commercials are just too irritating.
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#51 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.79
I won't shop in Wal-Mart for the same reasons mentioned above.

I've watched nothing on ABC since that horrible 9/11 propaganda movie. (Which sucks because our ABC affiliate's local news is the only one I can force my way through. It's certainly not good, but it's the least horrible.) Part of me tells myself I'm going to keep it up and just illegally download LOST episodes on Thursday morning once the new season starts, but the realist in me knows that boycott's gonna end next Wednesday.

    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    Bob Dylan's music (very painful for me to give up; one of my favorite artists ever)


What did he do? I'm not doubting your convictions, I'm just wondering if I missed something. You state this very matter-of-factly, like your reasoning should be clear but I'm honestly drawing a blank.



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#52 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.62
    Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard


      Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      Bob Dylan's music (very painful for me to give up; one of my favorite artists ever)


    What did he do? I'm not doubting your convictions, I'm just wondering if I missed something. You state this very matter-of-factly, like your reasoning should be clear but I'm honestly drawing a blank.


I guess the Victoria's Secret commercial was just too much? My hope is that Bob did something personally to TheBucsFan and there's a rift between them now.

(edited by JustinShapiro on 27.9.06 1938)
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#53 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
      Originally posted by OlFuzzyBastard


        Originally posted by TheBucsFan
        Bob Dylan's music (very painful for me to give up; one of my favorite artists ever)


      What did he do? I'm not doubting your convictions, I'm just wondering if I missed something. You state this very matter-of-factly, like your reasoning should be clear but I'm honestly drawing a blank.


    I guess the Victoria's Secret commercial was just too much? My hope is that Bob did something personally to TheBucsFan and there's a rift between them now.

    (edited by JustinShapiro on 27.9.06 1938)


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I want my 60 dollars back.

EDIT: Just to clarify, it wasn't this one incident. Dylan has a long record of being an asshole whenever he decides he wants to be. That was just the first time it really affected me.

(edited by TheBucsFan on 27.9.06 2347)


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#54 Posted on | Instant Rating: 9.00
I never like to go to Walmart, but moreso due to asthetic reasons rather than political ones.

The only thing i boycott is Subway for personal reasons. I live in the town of their corporate HQ and had a friend whom worked in said HQ. She wrote a piece for my magazine in which she mentioned the fact that the town that Subway makes its home in also has a strangely large amount of porn stores and liquor stores. Her article was semi negative, yet fact based. Because of her writing this article and me posting it, it was speculated that she was fired because of that and I was vaguely threatened by lawsuits (mind you Subway was never really mentioned in the article.)

I'll never know if she was truly fired because of that solely or if I was ever going to be sued, but since then I just cannot eat at their place just because they possibly fired someone for speaking their mind.
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Since: 12.12.01
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#55 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.62
    Originally posted by TheBucsFan
    it wasn't this one incident. Dylan has a long record of being an asshole whenever he decides he wants to be. That was just the first time it really affected me.


Two questions. One, there are other incidents in the life of Bob Dylan that have compelled you to boycott him? Two, when you say you're boycotting Bob Dylan, are you saying you won't go to another one of his concerts, or you've sworn off listening to all music from his 45 year career?



    Anyway, I was excited because a week earlier some friends in Austin, Texas saw him and said he tore the place up, played for like two hours and played all his big hits. Given the history (en.wikipedia.org) of the man, I guess I should have been a little more reserved. What I got, for my $60 tickets, was a 45 minute show that saw him play seven songs and not bust out his legendary harmonica once. He didn't even really sing...he spoke the lyrics as you or I would speak in normal conversation.

    I got up at one point to get a drink during what I thought was the start of an intermission, and boy was I surprised when I got back to my section to see people filing out. I couldn't believe that not only was the show over...but nobody else seemed upset about it.


May I ask where and when you saw him? There's no chance that Bob played 7 songs for 45 minutes. He's been playing 14 songs per show as a fixed number almost all year.

As for the singing, suffice to say Bob at 65 does not have the same voice as Bob at 25, 35, 45, or even 55. A lot of his range is gone, especially since he's been touring year-round since 1988 and plays about 100 per year ("The Never Ending Tour"). He can't sing the way he used to, but he compensates with the phrasing. It's an admittedly acquired taste and can be jarring if it's the first time you're hearing contemporary Bob, but when he's on, it can be pretty amazing. That's not to guarantee that he wasn't half-assing the vocals during your show, because he has certainly been known to have less-than-stellar shows based on the sheer volume he plays.

As far as the harmonica, if the song doesn't have a harmonica part, he can't play the harmonica.
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#56 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.42
    Originally posted by JustinShapiro
      Originally posted by TheBucsFan
      it wasn't this one incident. Dylan has a long record of being an asshole whenever he decides he wants to be. That was just the first time it really affected me.


    Two questions. One, there are other incidents in the life of Bob Dylan that have compelled you to boycott him? Two, when you say you're boycotting Bob Dylan, are you saying you won't go to another one of his concerts, or you've sworn off listening to all music from his 45 year career?



      Anyway, I was excited because a week earlier some friends in Austin, Texas saw him and said he tore the place up, played for like two hours and played all his big hits. Given the history (en.wikipedia.org) of the man, I guess I should have been a little more reserved. What I got, for my $60 tickets, was a 45 minute show that saw him play seven songs and not bust out his legendary harmonica once. He didn't even really sing...he spoke the lyrics as you or I would speak in normal conversation.

      I got up at one point to get a drink during what I thought was the start of an intermission, and boy was I surprised when I got back to my section to see people filing out. I couldn't believe that not only was the show over...but nobody else seemed upset about it.


    May I ask where and when you saw him? There's no chance that Bob played 7 songs for 45 minutes. He's been playing 14 songs per show as a fixed number almost all year.

    As for the singing, suffice to say Bob at 65 does not have the same voice as Bob at 25, 35, 45, or even 55. A lot of his range is gone, especially since he's been touring year-round since 1988 and plays about 100 per year ("The Never Ending Tour"). He can't sing the way he used to, but he compensates with the phrasing. It's an admittedly acquired taste and can be jarring if it's the first time you're hearing contemporary Bob, but when he's on, it can be pretty amazing. That's not to guarantee that he wasn't half-assing the vocals during your show, because he has certainly been known to have less-than-stellar shows based on the sheer volume he plays.

    As far as the harmonica, if the song doesn't have a harmonica part, he can't play the harmonica.


I saw him in Tampa and it was definitely not 14 songs. He took the stage at 7:45ish and I was in my car on the way home by 9:00. A search on Google brings one positive review and lists like 12 songs, which is more than I remember. The rumor I heard, though I never found any proof of this, was because he was upset over much of the crowd leaving when the opening act (Merle Haggard) finished up. But for all I can tell, that was nothing but speculation.

As for the harmonica - he played "All Along the Watchtower" to name one song that he didnt use the harmonica in. Honestly, I don't remember the rest of his set at this point. And I know his voice isn't going to be what it was 30 years ago, but I'm pretty sure he was not sober at that show.

Other problems - he's had other instances in the past where he walked out on a show early because he didn't like the crowd, but most of those were a long time ago. My dad hates him because twice in the '70's Dylan half-assed concerts that he paid good money to see.

My biggest problem is his lifting of lines from other artists, without any kind of credit. I believe words and music should be shared and reused openly, but Dylan on album after album has done this with no form of acknowledgment.

Most recently, his "Modern Times" album has allegedly lifted lyrics from a 19th century poet named Henry Timrod. Here (nytimes.com) is a NY Times story on it, but you may need registration if you don't have it already.

And the extent of my boycott is that I wouldn't pay to see him live again - mainly because it was a pretty shitty show I saw the first time - and I won't buy his new album or any subsequent ones ... maybe. Honestly, it's not a huge deal to me, and I probably shouldn't have included it on that list. I wish I hadn't, because my reasoning as I sit here and try and justify it sounds pretty flimsy and stupid. In fact ... I'm going to go get the new album sometime.

(edited by TheBucsFan on 28.9.06 0118)

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#57 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.17
Lars von Trier's movies. He burned me with Dancer in the Dark and threw me over the edge with Dogville.



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#58 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.42
Another non-Wal*Marter here. It helps, of course, that I don't live in a town where W*M is the only place to buy stuff.



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#59 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.45
Any Bruckheimer/Bay production... they all stink.

I have a problem with rock stars talking about their causes during a show. But when they are not on stage, I say, fill your boots. They are allowed their opinion and can spend their time any way they want... just like everybody else...



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#60 Posted on | Instant Rating: 8.62
Hi the Bucs Fan. I am not trying to give you a hard time, honest. I have you W-rated at an 8, in fact! I just have a sizeable Bobsession so your story jumped out at me.


    My biggest problem is his lifting of lines from other artists, without any kind of credit. I believe words and music should be shared and reused openly, but Dylan on album after album has done this with no form of acknowledgment.


I understand that opinion. Disturbingly, I wrote my entire senior thesis about the subject, although it makes a different argument (that Dylan's assemblage songwriting is a self-conscious artform).


I can't help but include one more terrible thing, though:
http://my.execpc.com/~billp61/051006r.html

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Sundome
May 10, 2006

1. Maggie's Farm
2. She Belongs To Me (Bob on harmonica)
3. Tweedle Dee & Tweedle Dum
4. Lay, Lady, Lay
5. Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again
(Bob on harmonica)
6. Love Sick
7. I'll Be Your Baby Tonight (Bob on harmonica)
8. Ballad Of A Thin Man (Bob on harmonica)
9. I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met)
10. Cold Irons Bound
11. Girl Of The North Country (Bob on harmonica)
12. Summer Days
(encore)
13. Like A Rolling Stone
14. All Along The Watchtower
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