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This link (www.bobparsons.com) is to the personal website of Bob Parsons, founder of GoDaddy.com, possibly the most affordable (and popular) domain registrar in North America, if not the world.

In it, he espouses his personal views on the "Gitmo situation."

I have several friends who have sites registered with GoDaddy.com who are now considering finding another registrar as a result of Mr. Parsons' posting. At the same time, it doesn't strike me as something that would affect the way he runs his business; in fact, he has stated in the comments following the post that despite his personal political leanings, his company is not "conservative" or "liberal," but American.

My question is this: do public political statements by a person affiliated with a company affect the way YOU spend YOUR dollars?

In a way, I'd say yes: I'm against supporting companies who themselves contribute to violence or other nastiness. But this is a personal statement by a person who can't help but be associated with a company. In short, I expect to be registering a domain name in the next few months; if GoDaddy.com is still the best bang for the buck at that point in time, I will almost surely register my domain through them regardless of what I think of Mr. Parsons' comments.

Disclaimer: yes, the-w.com is registered with GoDaddy.com. Do I expect/hope for/want CRZ's comment here? Nope. And I suspect any degeneration of the thread into an argument on the subject matter of the blog post (i.e. Gitmo) to lead this thread into the banished folder (and I understand if it qualifies all on its own).



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I remember back in the '04 Election I heard people who said that they were "going to stop buying Heinz ketchup", because they were Republicans. I thought those people were insane. Yes, if the company is doing something bad, then feel free to avoid it. But to boycott a company based on the opinions of its owners is, IMO, crazy.



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Haven't visited the site you mentioned, but do have opinions. I had a conversation with severals Wieners and in a thread back during the election and others,

Basically, I believe that corporate executives', owners' and, in fact, employees' views affect the way I spend my consumer goods dollar. I understand freedom of speech and all that - and you (or anyone who is a citizen of this great country or anyone who is a citizen of their country has the rights of free speech associated with that country.

Of course, there are drawbacks to the free speech. While it may be OK to be, politically, whatever you choose, there are ramifications. Back in the late 40s and 50s, if you were a communist or suspected of being one, you could kiss your public career goodbye, because public companies and companies that depend of the goodwill of people couldn't afford to employ them. That exists today as well. I would be willing to bet that if, oh, some high-profile athlete or celebrity said that they were a member of Al-Queda, that they would essentially, be out the door.

On a lesser note, I spend my personal money away from political views and personal habits I feel are not in line with my own. As an example, I don't buy my insurance from Progressive, because the company itself contributes heavily to democratic and liberal end groups and their Chairman, Peter Lewis, is a major contributer to MoveOn and other liberal organizations. Same for Apple.

It makes sense, doesn't it, that I'd be more likely to eat at California Pizza Kitchen (Rosenthal and Flax share my views) than Popeye's (Where Belatti is a MoveOn guy). I should buy my Electronics and DVDs at Bestbuy, where my views are shared, rather than Fry's or CompUSA, where there is some support of the other side.

But that is only if you feel that your principles are as important as getting the deal. I'd pay a bit more if I thought my bucks were going to the right place.



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#5 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.23
    Originally posted by AWArulz
    Back in the late 40s and 50s, if you were a communist or suspected of being one, you could kiss your public career goodbye, because public companies and companies that depend of the goodwill of people couldn't afford to employ them. That exists today as well. I would be willing to bet that if, oh, some high-profile athlete or celebrity said that they were a member of Al-Queda, that they would essentially, be out the door.


Except that most of the people blacklisted during the McCarthy era weren't actually Communists. Some where even blacklisted for organizing civilian aid sent to the Soviets during WWII - when we were all fighting on the same side.

I pretty much try to support left-leaning and non-profit companies as much as possible. Typically, an individual's impact on a non-profit (i.e. food -co-op. etc) tends to mean more than NOT doing business with a company I don't agree with politically.

The exceptions are with companies aligned with the extreme right. I won't purchase products made by Coors, Phillip-Morris, Blockbuster, etc. That's simply because I just don't want my money going to them. I seriously doubt they miss me as a customer.

I also refuse, for any reason, to cross picket lines - but that philosophy comes more from the Republican side of my family.

(edited by Leroy on 20.6.05 1737)



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Well, I wont PAY to see a Michael Moore movie any time soon. I did however buy a ticket to another movie and just went into the Michael Moore F/911 movie. I dont make enough cash to really think that MY spending will reflect in any tangible way. I basically shop whereever I can get something at the best price. Usually, its Walmart.

I really dont care one way or another about a corporation's CEO's viewpoints, if as a consumer, it helps me to shop there.

I wont spend my entertainment dollars to support people who's viewpoints differ from my own, especially since I have so little of it to go around.
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    Originally posted by StaggerLee
    Well, I wont PAY to see a Michael Moore movie any time soon. I did however buy a ticket to another movie and just went into the Michael Moore F/911 movie.

I'm sorry, I cannot agree with that. If you want to see the movie that badly, then you should pay for the intellectual property that the studio and the director own. I don't know if the movie companies even get paid on a per person basis, but even if they don't, that's still not right. That's like stealing food from McDonald's and thinking it's all right because you gave the people at Burger King $5 extra.



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At some level, I think that you have to be willing to support your convictions with your dollar or they really aren't convictions. For example, I personally believe that the modern version of the labor union is evil incarnate (union members taking shots at family members because they were salaried employees and crossed a picket line might have something to do with that perception but there are several other reasons) and I absolutely will not, if it's in any way avoidable, buy union-labeled product. In addition, I've turned down jobs because they were in union shops and I'm simply not willing to even tacitly condone the union cause by working in that environment. Given the opportunity, I'll cross any picket line I see for no reason other than to cross the picket line and send a message to the picketers that their tactics aren't working.

On the other hand, I'm also much more likely to spend money in local community stores that are trying to contribute to the local community than I am to visit a chain store that might be slightly cheaper. In the past, we've been members of local co-ops because they were community oriented. Additionally, most of the mission work that I do is focused on the local area rather than taking mission trips although I certainly look forward to our churches biannual mission trip to Mexico.

Entertainment is where I find that I discriminate the most with my dollar. To continue with the Michael Moore example, I watched his last 3 movies legally, at the house of a friend or in class in grad school, but I most certainly didn't pay for them and I certainly wouldn't have watched them if it required me paying for them.

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I like to say I don't drink Coors products because of their right-wing political leanings, but at the end of the day, it's mostly because their beer tastes like piss.



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#10 Posted on | Instant Rating: 0.00
    Originally posted by Leroy
    I also refuse, for any reason, to cross picket lines - but that philosophy comes more from the Republican side of my family.

    (edited by Leroy on 20.6.05 1737)


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Naturally, I'll try, but I'm the first to admit I am a terrible hypocrite.

I don't buy tuna that doesn't have a doplhin safe label on it.

I won't buy Domino's pizza because of it's loudmouth owner.

I won't buy gas from Exxon because of the Valdez mess.

I stopped monetary contributions to the Catholic Church years ago - even when I much more frequently attended mass - when I found out it was being used among other things as hush money to cover up pervert priests. My charitable contributions are now used to purchase in-kind goods that I can donate to charity (and get a tax deduction).

I do buy animal tested cosmetics/health & beauty items - but only when they are on sale and I have good coupons. I recently redeemed 40 coupons for 40 free deodorants that I will donate to a local shelter.

I boycott grapes, except those grown in mom's backyard.

I will buy union made items ONLY when there is no real difference in the quality or cost.

I go out of my way to try to make sure hotels I stay in have union staff. This is one industry where union membership is making a difference keeping the ratio between full/part time workers fair enough that most of the workers can get a living wage.

Will the great and powerful CRZ now shut this down as a list thread?






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#12 Posted on | Instant Rating: 4.22
    Originally posted by Crimedog
    The REPUBLICAN side of your family?


Oddly enough, yeah. I walked my first picket line with my VERY Republican father when I was twelve during a CWA strike. He refused to cross the picket line during the SoCal grocery worker's strike a year and a half ago.

He votes Republican pretty much every election, although he'll occassionally cross party lines for very specific reasons - mostly economic. He voted for Clinton in '92. And local issues he's less partisan.

More info than you probably cared to know.




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"I boycott grapes, except those grown in mom's backyard."

OK, I gotta know. . . why grapes? I don't mean to be disparaging, I would just like to know your reasoning, because I've never heard of this boycott before. Thanks.
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#14 Posted on | Instant Rating: 3.09
    Originally posted by JohnPi
    "I boycott grapes, except those grown in mom's backyard."

    OK, I gotta know. . . why grapes? I don't mean to be disparaging, I would just like to know your reasoning, because I've never heard of this boycott before. Thanks.


Man, it's amazing what doesn't get taught in schools these days. This is fairly recent American history (60's-70's). Look up the late Cesar Chavez. Support the United Farm Workers.

Like I've said before, I'm an old hippie-hypocrite. I boycott farm-produced grapes because it's too hard to tell which few of them are have union contracts.
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#15 Posted on | Instant Rating: 5.73
    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
    I remember back in the '04 Election I heard people who said that they were "going to stop buying Heinz ketchup", because they were Republicans. I thought those people were insane. Yes, if the company is doing something bad, then feel free to avoid it. But to boycott a company based on the opinions of its owners is, IMO, crazy.


I actually quit buying Heinz Ketchup during the time leading up to the election (my wife still bought it because it is the best ketchup) and because of my "boycott", I discovered Shemps Old Fashioned Hot Ketchup and Uncle Dougie's Spicy Ketchup. I highly recommend both brands.



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#16 Posted on | Instant Rating: 1.56
    Originally posted by Mr. Boffo
      Originally posted by StaggerLee
      Well, I wont PAY to see a Michael Moore movie any time soon. I did however buy a ticket to another movie and just went into the Michael Moore F/911 movie.

    I'm sorry, I cannot agree with that. If you want to see the movie that badly, then you should pay for the intellectual property that the studio and the director own. I don't know if the movie companies even get paid on a per person basis, but even if they don't, that's still not right. That's like stealing food from McDonald's and thinking it's all right because you gave the people at Burger King $5 extra.


Well, the movie was showing, regardless if they got my seven dollars, It wasnt like I just *HAD* to see it, but I was curious as to what it was about, but didnt feel the need to support it financially.


    I actually quit buying Heinz Ketchup during the time leading up to the election (my wife still bought it because it is the best ketchup) and because of my "boycott", I discovered Shemps Old Fashioned Hot Ketchup and Uncle Dougie's Spicy Ketchup. I highly recommend both brands.

I would recommend RED GOLD ketchup and other fine tomato products. They buy the majority of thier tomatoes from family owned farms.

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