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| #1 Posted on 22.11.03 1041.21 | Instant Rating: 3.04 | Just woke up after getting in a little trouble with the law last night. I was walking down the street after going Saki Bombing and got an MIP. My charges read as follows. VIOLATION #1 Under 21 with alcohol in body (.25) VIOLATION #2 Fale Reporting to Law Inforcement(WTF? I cooperated!)
VIOLATION #3 Unlawful Use of License (Unlawful)
I am supposed to appear in court on DEC 16, but I won't be in Arizona on that date, as I will be at home in Eugene. Can I just mail in the money as if it were a traffic ticket? Or What
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| #2 Posted on 22.11.03 1050.28 | Instant Rating: 5.73 | The tickets should have some fine print describing options on how to handle them.
Or you could call the court house and ask.
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| #3 Posted on 22.11.03 1216.41 | Instant Rating: 3.45 | Something happened like this to me and my friends, when I 16. A 42 year old, a 19 year old and two 16 year old got busted for basically the same thing. While we all got accused with different level of charges, the 19 year old got underage consumption, public intox, and trespassing in a state park, and he just had to pay a fine through mail or through a cashier. So unless you plan to fight the charges or you got summons, I imagine you won't have to go. Though, it wouldn't hurt to call and find out, don't want it to come back and haunt you 5 years from now.
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| #4 Posted on 22.11.03 1223.00 | I'm not sure if your state has anything like this, but look into a pre-trial intervention program if they have one. A little community service, sitting through one of those "scared straight" things, and fees that should wind up less than the fines would be (don't get me wrong, it's not cheap). Best part is at the end of the program your record is clean again. I had to go through it last year after a possession bust, but MOST of the people in there were there because of exactly what you're charged with.
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| #5 Posted on 22.11.03 1936.34 | Instant Rating: 2.60 | Originally posted by ShotGunShep VIOLATION #2 Fale Reporting to Law Inforcement(WTF? I cooperated!)
Did you say "No" when the officer first asked if you'd been drinking? Give a wrong name or address? It's probably something little, it sounds like something pissed off cops can use if they can't get you on other stuff.
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| #6 Posted on 24.11.03 1706.37 | Instant Rating: 7.00 | Caveat #1 - I am not familiar with Arizona criminal Law, but...
Caveat #2 - I am a fully licensed attorney in the State of Florida, and I practice criminal law day in and day out.
Caveat #3 - the best advice I can give you is to consult with an attorney licensed in Arizona and who regularly practices criminal law. Barring that...
If Arizona law is anything like Florida law, you have been charged with criminal acts, and are now obligated to appear before the court. If you fail to appear at court on the appointed date, you could run the risk of having a warrant placed on you for your arrest and being forced to bond out. If the law and the prosecutors in your jurisdiction are anything like the law and the prosecutors in my jurisdiction, they can also filed a separate charge for Failure to Appear if you do that.
Bottom line - make every possible effort to make that court date.
Your next court appearance is likely for an arraignment. If that's the case, that's when the prosecutor's office will announce if they are formally charging you with criminal acts. They may drop the case against you outright - but don't hold your breath for that. They may offer you a diversionary program for which the case against you will be dropped if you complete it. Otherwise, you'll have three options - 1) Plead not guilty - I didn't do it, or the prosecutor can't prove that I did it; 2) Plead guilty - yes, I did it; or 3) Plead no contest or nolo contendere - I do not admit or deny that I did it - but I don't want to fight the charges, I just want to wrap this all up.
Here's what you should do before your court date. At the very least, ask the judge and/or the clerk of court's office if they'll accept a written pleading of not guilty in your absence, and whether you can get a later, pre-trial court date after you return to Arizona for school to resolve the case. Again, if Arizona law is anything like Florida law, you can waive your appearance at arraignment by filing such a pleading, and not have to worry about the matter.
Hope this helps.
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| #7 Posted on 24.11.03 1747.29 | Instant Rating: 5.55 | Originally posted by ShotGunShep Just woke up after getting in a little trouble with the law last night. I was walking down the street after going Saki Bombing and got an MIP. My charges read as follows. VIOLATION #1 Under 21 with alcohol in body (.25) VIOLATION #2 Fale Reporting to Law Inforcement(WTF? I cooperated!)
VIOLATION #3 Unlawful Use of License (Unlawful)
I am supposed to appear in court on DEC 16, but I won't be in Arizona on that date, as I will be at home in Eugene. Can I just mail in the money as if it were a traffic ticket? Or What
Call a lawyer. I doubt that things will go differently than what RageRockrr says, but call a lawyer. If you don't want to call a lawyer, then go to court on that date and prepare to simply beg for mercy. But, you should still go to court on that day unless you call that lawyer.
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| #8 Posted on 24.11.03 1911.28 | Instant Rating: 4.05 | One has to be careful with a "No Contest" because in some states like MD, unless my mom was wrong and was talking about VA when she needed adivce, count a "No Contest" as a guilty plea (Why would someone not guilty want to face a fine/jail time???). So, yes, find an AZ lawyer to discuss your options.
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| #9 Posted on 24.11.03 1947.26 | Instant Rating: 3.00 | as a guy who works in a law firm (although not a lawyer, so take my advice for what it is worth; but i have been in situations dealing with having legal representation), i would look into some legal representation in AZ, just to cover your ass. every state seems to work differently, and "begging for mercy" is a gamble..... so i would say that your best bet is to seriously read the fine print on the ticket, seriously look into the charges against you, and if any of this seems heavy, then by all means get somebody... think of it like this; so you spend some money; it's way better than letting it slide, and having warrants out for you.
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| #10 Posted on 24.11.03 1948.50 | Instant Rating: 5.96 | Summary of your offenses, thanks to Google and care of the insanely hard-to-navigate Arizona State Legistlature site:
Underage Intoxication (Too damned wordy)
Another Class 1 misdemeanor, I believe.
28-3478. Unlawful use of license; classification
It is a class 2 misdemeanor for a person:
1. To knowingly display, cause or permit to be displayed or have in the person's possession a canceled, revoked, suspended, fictitious or fraudulently altered driver license.
2. To lend the person's driver license to another person or to knowingly permit the use of the person's driver license by another person.
3. To knowingly display or represent as the person's own driver license a driver license not issued to the person.
4. In a driver license application to:
(a) Knowingly use a false or fictitious name.
(b) Knowingly make a false statement.
(c) Knowingly conceal a material fact.
(d) Otherwise commit fraud.
5. To permit an unlawful use of the person's driver license.
6. To knowingly use a false or fictitious name in an application for a nonoperating identification license or to knowingly falsify other information required by section 28-3165, make a false statement, conceal a material fact or otherwise commit fraud in an application for a nonoperating identification license.
13-2907.01. False reporting to law enforcement agencies; classification
A. It is unlawful for a person to knowingly make to a law enforcement agency of either this state or a political subdivision of this state a false, fraudulent or unfounded report or statement or to knowingly misrepresent a fact for the purpose of interfering with the orderly operation of a law enforcement agency or misleading a peace officer.
B. Violation of this section is a class 1 misdemeanor.
Fines For Misdemeanors in Arizona: You've got two Class 1s and a Class 2 : $5750 is the most you could be fined.
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